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McAwful will win.

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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
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    When one party consistently refuses to require a credible ID to vote and champions opportunities for fraud it raises serious questions about whether they hold those ideals.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • MikM Mik

      When one party consistently refuses to require a credible ID to vote and champions opportunities for fraud it raises serious questions about whether they hold those ideals.

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      Catseye3
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      @mik 'K, but that's not what Ax was saying.

      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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        Ideals are only of value if held to. If proclaimed and ignored they become propaganda.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • MikM Mik

          Ideals are only of value if held to. If proclaimed and ignored they become propaganda.

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          @mik Can't agree. If something is established as an ideal, then it's an ideal. If it's attacked or damaged, it's still an ideal. Once it's established, the idealism of the ideal -- you should pardon that awkwardness -- doesn't depend on any reaction to it. It doesn't change. Only time can obliterate it, and the ideal of voting hasn't had enough time for that.

          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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            Then Jolly's statements don't matter to the ideal.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • MikM Mik

              Then Jolly's statements don't matter to the ideal.

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              @mik That's true, but attacking an ideal is still doing disservice to the ideal, if only to call it into question.

              This is getting silly. I'll give up if you do.

              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                🤗

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • MikM Mik

                  🤗

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                  @mik Back atcha. 🙂

                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                    300,000 mail-in ballots. The ballots most susceptible to fraud.

                    Color me unimpressed by the sanctimonious arguments. We either have fair elections, beyond reproach, or we are no better than a run-of-the-mill banana republic. And eventually, the man on the white horse will ride in and hit a violent reset button.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      @mik Can't agree. If something is established as an ideal, then it's an ideal. If it's attacked or damaged, it's still an ideal. Once it's established, the idealism of the ideal -- you should pardon that awkwardness -- doesn't depend on any reaction to it. It doesn't change. Only time can obliterate it, and the ideal of voting hasn't had enough time for that.

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                      @catseye3 said in McAwful will win.:

                      @mik Can't agree. If something is established as an ideal, then it's an ideal. If it's attacked or damaged, it's still an ideal. Once it's established, the idealism of the ideal -- you should pardon that awkwardness -- doesn't depend on any reaction to it. It doesn't change. Only time can obliterate it, and the ideal of voting hasn't had enough time for that.

                      You obviously don't even know what the word "ideal" means.

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        300,000 mail-in ballots. The ballots most susceptible to fraud.

                        Color me unimpressed by the sanctimonious arguments. We either have fair elections, beyond reproach, or we are no better than a run-of-the-mill banana republic. And eventually, the man on the white horse will ride in and hit a violent reset button.

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                        @jolly said in McAwful will win.:

                        We either have fair elections, beyond reproach, or we are no better than a run-of-the-mill banana republic.

                        Gasp! Maybe you will stay at home and not vote until you think we have elections that are fair "beyond reproach." Lately, that's what Trump suggests that Republicans should do anyway.

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                          Horace
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                          If anybody wants to hold an ideal that agrees with cats, they will be inevitably disappointed.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • AxtremusA Axtremus

                            @jolly said in McAwful will win.:

                            We either have fair elections, beyond reproach, or we are no better than a run-of-the-mill banana republic.

                            Gasp! Maybe you will stay at home and not vote until you think we have elections that are fair "beyond reproach." Lately, that's what Trump suggests that Republicans should do anyway.

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                            Jolly
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                            @axtremus said in McAwful will win.:

                            @jolly said in McAwful will win.:

                            We either have fair elections, beyond reproach, or we are no better than a run-of-the-mill banana republic.

                            Gasp! Maybe you will stay at home and not vote until you think we have elections that are fair "beyond reproach." Lately, that's what Trump suggests that Republicans should do anyway.

                            I'd tell you to stay at home and fuck yourself, but it's late and that's already happened 😄

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              Told ya he’d win, I can predict the future you know.

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                                Told ya he’d win, I can predict the future you know.

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                                @89th said in McAwful will win.:

                                Told ya he’d win, I can predict the future you know.

                                I think he'll win, too, but he must be getting a little worried...

                                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/this-ad-reveals-how-worried-terry-mcauliffe-is-about-the-virginia-governor-s-race/ar-AAPHPNS?ocid=msedgntp

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  @89th said in McAwful will win.:

                                  Told ya he’d win, I can predict the future you know.

                                  I think he'll win, too, but he must be getting a little worried...

                                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/this-ad-reveals-how-worried-terry-mcauliffe-is-about-the-virginia-governor-s-race/ar-AAPHPNS?ocid=msedgntp

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                                  @jolly Oh it's closer than it might otherwise be. Heck, he might even lose if the passion of the turnout is on the GOP side, but still... What's so wrong with that statement that parents shouldn't be telling schools what to teach? Obviously it's not as cut and dry like that, but if the last 18 months have taught me anything, it's that there are a TON of idiots out there, on both sides. Almost like the pandemic has put a flashlight on the floor and we see the idiots scattering into the public arena.

                                  Yes, at the end of the day the parents should have some control over what is being taught (or rather, who is in control of making those decisions), but the idea that the loudest (and most annoying) parents might have any say in what an objective curriculum should consist of, is scary.

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                                    LuFins Dad
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                                    @89th You are completely missing the impetus of the question that was asked and the reason he gave his response.

                                    The first part of the quote “I’m not going to let parents come into schools and actually take books out and make their own decisions,”

                                    A few days before, the big news was about a parent confronting the Fairfax County School Board over explicit and disturbing books being found in the schools libraries https://wjla.com/amp/news/local/fairfax-county-public-schools-pulls-lgbtq-books-graphic-sex-libraries-virginia-lawn-boy-gender-queer

                                    Due to parents uproar over the next several days the books were finally removed, but there was a huge fight over it.

                                    The Brad

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                                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                      @89th You are completely missing the impetus of the question that was asked and the reason he gave his response.

                                      The first part of the quote “I’m not going to let parents come into schools and actually take books out and make their own decisions,”

                                      A few days before, the big news was about a parent confronting the Fairfax County School Board over explicit and disturbing books being found in the schools libraries https://wjla.com/amp/news/local/fairfax-county-public-schools-pulls-lgbtq-books-graphic-sex-libraries-virginia-lawn-boy-gender-queer

                                      Due to parents uproar over the next several days the books were finally removed, but there was a huge fight over it.

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                                      @lufins-dad Helpful to know, thanks. I was going off of the sentence/sound-bite that is being used in ads as referenced in that article.

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                                        McAuliffe walks out on interview. Here's ABC's comment:

                                        Here's the interview. Go to 10:35.

                                        Link to video

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • 89th8 89th

                                          @lufins-dad Helpful to know, thanks. I was going off of the sentence/sound-bite that is being used in ads as referenced in that article.

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                                          @89th said in McAwful will win.:

                                          @lufins-dad Helpful to know, thanks. I was going off of the sentence/sound-bite that is being used in ads as referenced in that article.

                                          Even if that hadn’t been the impetus, it was still a very stupid thing to say when members of school boards are threatening to dox parents and get them fired for holding contrarian views.

                                          The Brad

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