The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.
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wrote on 25 May 2020, 21:07 last edited by
I suppose it's too late to suggest using common sense? Wear a mask at the shops, but not in the house? Wear a mask if you're going to come into close proximity? Basically, what George said.
Other tips:
Don't show up at the beach and go frolicking around like a stupid twat.
Don't get together with 20 friends at the park and play baseball like a stupid twat.
Don't mention the US Constitution when debating whether you should wear mask. It's a sure fire clue that you're a stupid twat.
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It wasn't sarcastic, he genuinely lacked the political courage to implore people to wear masks. He clearly wants that but his political calculus had him swinging away at the straw man about people who hate others for wearing masks. Who I imagine don't much exist.
wrote on 25 May 2020, 21:21 last edited by@Horace said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:
It wasn't sarcastic, he genuinely lacked the political courage to implore people to wear masks. He clearly wants that but his political calculus had him swinging away at the straw man about people who hate others for wearing masks. Who I imagine don't much exist.
Or maybe they’ve been imploring mask usage for weeks and now he’s trying to fight an ossifying stigma against usage within a particular political tribe.
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wrote on 25 May 2020, 22:21 last edited by
Well I am definitely with the governor in his stance against those who want to hate or shame mask wearers. Meanwhile everybody is wearing a mask wherever I go around here, so as usual I am at a loss to personally identify with these political subcultures we discuss so often online. I do understand having a principled reaction against being required by law to wear a mask, though, and can identify with that. Shaming/hating people for wearing masks? Nope, don't really think it's a thing.
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wrote on 25 May 2020, 22:26 last edited by
It doesn’t have to be verbal shaming or hating. Stigmatization can be more subtle and still be effective. Surely you see that in your own society on other issues.
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wrote on 25 May 2020, 22:33 last edited by
yes jon I see stigmatization everywhere. I hope you do too.
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wrote on 25 May 2020, 22:34 last edited by
Maybe I’m making it up. Maybe there’s no such thing as taboo opinions in the Bay Area.
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Well I am definitely with the governor in his stance against those who want to hate or shame mask wearers. Meanwhile everybody is wearing a mask wherever I go around here, so as usual I am at a loss to personally identify with these political subcultures we discuss so often online. I do understand having a principled reaction against being required by law to wear a mask, though, and can identify with that. Shaming/hating people for wearing masks? Nope, don't really think it's a thing.
wrote on 25 May 2020, 22:34 last edited by@Horace said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:
Well I am definitely with the governor in his stance against those who want to hate or shame mask wearers. Meanwhile everybody is wearing a mask wherever I go around here, so as usual I am at a loss to personally identify with these political subcultures we discuss so often online. I do understand having a principled reaction against being required by law to wear a mask, though, and can identify with that. Shaming/hating people for wearing masks? Nope, don't really think it's a thing.
About 1 out of 10 people in Ellicott City yesterday were wearing masks. Tons of foot traffic, no social distancing, 1 out of fucking 10.
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wrote on 25 May 2020, 22:36 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:
Maybe I’m making it up. Maybe there’s no such thing as taboo opinions in the Bay Area.
No, I really do see stigmatization everywhere, usually in the form of sane vs crazy, or smart vs stupid, or moral vs immoral framings of every important political question.
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wrote on 25 May 2020, 22:48 last edited by
Well then, you understand what the Governor is facing.
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wrote on 25 May 2020, 23:58 last edited by
I do not in fact understand the degree of this "ossifying stigma" against other people wearing masks.
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wrote on 28 May 2020, 01:32 last edited by
Pure, unadulterated twattery:
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wrote on 28 May 2020, 01:36 last edited by
Big crowds and many without masks in Minneapolis protests today. They didn’t look like Trump supporters. Wonder if it will become a hot spot of a different nature. Will that story be covered?
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Big crowds and many without masks in Minneapolis protests today. They didn’t look like Trump supporters. Wonder if it will become a hot spot of a different nature. Will that story be covered?
wrote on 28 May 2020, 01:44 last edited by@Loki said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:
Big crowds and many without masks in Minneapolis protests today.
You misspelled "riots."