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The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.

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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
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    #55

    Amen, Governor Burgum.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • CopperC Offline
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      Copper
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      #56

      Based on that thinking everyone should always wear a mask everywhere, all the time, forever.

      There is a limit, don't be afraid to discuss it.

      Virtue is not the reason, it just won't sell, people will recognize it and reject it.

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      • HoraceH Online
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        Horace
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        #57

        He lacked the political courage even to ask people to wear masks. His emotional plea was to not hate others for wearing masks. I wasn't even aware that that was a thing - hating people for wearing masks. I guess probably nazis would hate people for wearing masks, or maybe KKK members.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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          Aqua Letifer
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          #58

          Oh for fuck's sake, it prevents the goddamn spread of the virus, okay? Jesus.

          Please love yourself.

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          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

            Oh for fuck's sake, it prevents the goddamn spread of the virus, okay? Jesus.

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            #59

            @Aqua-Letifer said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

            Oh for fuck's sake, it prevents the goddamn spread of the virus, okay? Jesus.

            Very true.

            Yes wear a damn mask when interacting with others inside. I don’t think I’ll be wearing one in a car or when out exercising.

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            • L Loki

              @Aqua-Letifer said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

              Oh for fuck's sake, it prevents the goddamn spread of the virus, okay? Jesus.

              Very true.

              Yes wear a damn mask when interacting with others inside. I don’t think I’ll be wearing one in a car or when out exercising.

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              George K
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              #60

              @Loki said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

              @Aqua-Letifer said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

              Oh for fuck's sake, it prevents the goddamn spread of the virus, okay? Jesus.

              Very true.

              Yes wear a damn mask when interacting with others inside. I don’t think I’ll be wearing one in a car or when out exercising.

              Mask not worn:

              1. In my car
              2. In my house
              3. On my thrice-weekly walk. When I encounter someone, we move about 10 feet apart.

              Mask worn:

              1. Post Office
              2. Grocery Store
              3. Any other store that I might encounter someone.

              Is it effective? Hell if I know. But, it wouldn't hurt, amirite?

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • L Loki

                @Aqua-Letifer said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                Oh for fuck's sake, it prevents the goddamn spread of the virus, okay? Jesus.

                Very true.

                Yes wear a damn mask when interacting with others inside. I don’t think I’ll be wearing one in a car or when out exercising.

                Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                Aqua Letifer
                wrote on last edited by
                #61

                @Loki said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                @Aqua-Letifer said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                Oh for fuck's sake, it prevents the goddamn spread of the virus, okay? Jesus.

                Very true.

                Yes wear a damn mask when interacting with others inside. I don’t think I’ll be wearing one in a car or when out exercising.

                I also get it that some folks are going to have a harder time wearing them. And it's not like wearing a mask is less of a pain in the ass, for anybody. But the concept isn't political and I'm tired of the fuckery. They help prevent the spread.

                Please love yourself.

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                • HoraceH Online
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                  Horace
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #62

                  has anybody here argued against mask use?

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                    #63

                    You were just cracking sarcastic about a guy who's saying that wearing one shouldn't be political.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • HoraceH Online
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                      Horace
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                      #64

                      It wasn't sarcastic, he genuinely lacked the political courage to implore people to wear masks. He clearly wants that but his political calculus had him swinging away at the straw man about people who hate others for wearing masks. Who I imagine don't much exist.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        It wasn't sarcastic, he genuinely lacked the political courage to implore people to wear masks. He clearly wants that but his political calculus had him swinging away at the straw man about people who hate others for wearing masks. Who I imagine don't much exist.

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                        Aqua Letifer
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                        #65

                        @Horace said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                        It wasn't sarcastic, he genuinely lacked the political courage to implore people to wear masks. He clearly wants that but his political calculus had him swinging away at the straw man about people who hate others for wearing masks. Who I imagine don't much exist.

                        Not hate, but it's definitely political. For many on both sides, it's become a form of virtue signaling because we're so insane that we care more about team affiliation than we do basic public safety.

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • HoraceH Online
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                          Horace
                          wrote on last edited by Horace
                          #66

                          Since nobody here is advocating against masks (though some, myself included, aren't much interested in piling on with the sneering condescension towards those who aren't enthusiastic about wearing them), I do wonder how many folk out there have a "political" reaction against them. I suppose some people just don't want to bother with this risk mitigation which remains unquantified and unquantifiable, at least for now. But laziness is not politics, it's just laziness.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • HoraceH Horace

                            Since nobody here is advocating against masks (though some, myself included, aren't much interested in piling on with the sneering condescension towards those who aren't enthusiastic about wearing them), I do wonder how many folk out there have a "political" reaction against them. I suppose some people just don't want to bother with this risk mitigation which remains unquantified and unquantifiable, at least for now. But laziness is not politics, it's just laziness.

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                            @Horace said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                            Since nobody here is advocating against masks (though some, myself included, aren't much interested in piling on with the sneering condescension towards those who aren't enthusiastic about wearing them), I do wonder how many folk out there have a "political" reaction against them. I suppose some people just don't want to bother with this risk mitigation which remains unquantified and unquantifiable, at least for now. But laziness is not politics, it's just laziness.

                            There's some open ridicule bullshit going on in my area. Which, like I said, is insanity.

                            Please love yourself.

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                            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                              Oh for fuck's sake, it prevents the goddamn spread of the virus, okay? Jesus.

                              CopperC Offline
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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #68

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                              Oh for fuck's sake, it prevents the goddamn spread of the virus, okay? Jesus.

                              Yes, that is exactly the reason masks won't be worn.

                              The argument is all about virtue and emotion.

                              How many deaths?

                              How long?

                              What triggers the end of mandatory masks?

                              When is it OK to not wear masks? Why?

                              Why only wear masks for covid-19?

                              Why not make masks mandatory until all communicable diseases are gone?

                              Sorry, but none of the correct answers to those questions include taking the Lord's name in vain or vulgar language.

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                                LuFins Dad
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                                But Aqua, we need the virus to spread! Herd immunity! If nobody gets it, we can’t be immune!

                                The Brad

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                                • RainmanR Offline
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                                  Rainman
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                                  #70

                                  Yeah! Let's just wear masks forever.
                                  Think of all the diseases we wouldn't get.
                                  But then again, think of all the diseases we would get, that we otherwise would be immune to.

                                  Solution: Wear the masks for 4-hours on, 2-hours off, daily. Guaranteed that at some point, you would be saved from the Wuhan Flu without even knowing it. Then, you'd get a cold and maybe go feet-up.
                                  But if the government says to do it, this week, then I'll do it because I have confidence in the extraordinary people in government. They are, like, a higher life form, and should not be questioned. They know stuff and junk.

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                    Doctor Phibes
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                                    #71

                                    I suppose it's too late to suggest using common sense? Wear a mask at the shops, but not in the house? Wear a mask if you're going to come into close proximity? Basically, what George said.

                                    Other tips:

                                    Don't show up at the beach and go frolicking around like a stupid twat.

                                    Don't get together with 20 friends at the park and play baseball like a stupid twat.

                                    Don't mention the US Constitution when debating whether you should wear mask. It's a sure fire clue that you're a stupid twat.

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • HoraceH Horace

                                      It wasn't sarcastic, he genuinely lacked the political courage to implore people to wear masks. He clearly wants that but his political calculus had him swinging away at the straw man about people who hate others for wearing masks. Who I imagine don't much exist.

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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      #72

                                      @Horace said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                                      It wasn't sarcastic, he genuinely lacked the political courage to implore people to wear masks. He clearly wants that but his political calculus had him swinging away at the straw man about people who hate others for wearing masks. Who I imagine don't much exist.

                                      Or maybe they’ve been imploring mask usage for weeks and now he’s trying to fight an ossifying stigma against usage within a particular political tribe.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      • HoraceH Online
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                                        Well I am definitely with the governor in his stance against those who want to hate or shame mask wearers. Meanwhile everybody is wearing a mask wherever I go around here, so as usual I am at a loss to personally identify with these political subcultures we discuss so often online. I do understand having a principled reaction against being required by law to wear a mask, though, and can identify with that. Shaming/hating people for wearing masks? Nope, don't really think it's a thing.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          #74

                                          It doesn’t have to be verbal shaming or hating. Stigmatization can be more subtle and still be effective. Surely you see that in your own society on other issues.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

                                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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