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The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.

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    Rainman
    wrote on 25 May 2020, 04:12 last edited by
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    Yeah! Let's just wear masks forever.
    Think of all the diseases we wouldn't get.
    But then again, think of all the diseases we would get, that we otherwise would be immune to.

    Solution: Wear the masks for 4-hours on, 2-hours off, daily. Guaranteed that at some point, you would be saved from the Wuhan Flu without even knowing it. Then, you'd get a cold and maybe go feet-up.
    But if the government says to do it, this week, then I'll do it because I have confidence in the extraordinary people in government. They are, like, a higher life form, and should not be questioned. They know stuff and junk.

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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on 25 May 2020, 21:07 last edited by
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      I suppose it's too late to suggest using common sense? Wear a mask at the shops, but not in the house? Wear a mask if you're going to come into close proximity? Basically, what George said.

      Other tips:

      Don't show up at the beach and go frolicking around like a stupid twat.

      Don't get together with 20 friends at the park and play baseball like a stupid twat.

      Don't mention the US Constitution when debating whether you should wear mask. It's a sure fire clue that you're a stupid twat.

      I was only joking

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      • H Horace
        24 May 2020, 22:24

        It wasn't sarcastic, he genuinely lacked the political courage to implore people to wear masks. He clearly wants that but his political calculus had him swinging away at the straw man about people who hate others for wearing masks. Who I imagine don't much exist.

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 25 May 2020, 21:21 last edited by
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        @Horace said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

        It wasn't sarcastic, he genuinely lacked the political courage to implore people to wear masks. He clearly wants that but his political calculus had him swinging away at the straw man about people who hate others for wearing masks. Who I imagine don't much exist.

        Or maybe they’ve been imploring mask usage for weeks and now he’s trying to fight an ossifying stigma against usage within a particular political tribe.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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          Horace
          wrote on 25 May 2020, 22:21 last edited by
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          Well I am definitely with the governor in his stance against those who want to hate or shame mask wearers. Meanwhile everybody is wearing a mask wherever I go around here, so as usual I am at a loss to personally identify with these political subcultures we discuss so often online. I do understand having a principled reaction against being required by law to wear a mask, though, and can identify with that. Shaming/hating people for wearing masks? Nope, don't really think it's a thing.

          Education is extremely important.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 25 May 2020, 22:26 last edited by
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            It doesn’t have to be verbal shaming or hating. Stigmatization can be more subtle and still be effective. Surely you see that in your own society on other issues.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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              Horace
              wrote on 25 May 2020, 22:33 last edited by
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              yes jon I see stigmatization everywhere. I hope you do too.

              Education is extremely important.

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 25 May 2020, 22:34 last edited by
                #76

                Maybe I’m making it up. Maybe there’s no such thing as taboo opinions in the Bay Area.

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                • H Horace
                  25 May 2020, 22:21

                  Well I am definitely with the governor in his stance against those who want to hate or shame mask wearers. Meanwhile everybody is wearing a mask wherever I go around here, so as usual I am at a loss to personally identify with these political subcultures we discuss so often online. I do understand having a principled reaction against being required by law to wear a mask, though, and can identify with that. Shaming/hating people for wearing masks? Nope, don't really think it's a thing.

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                  Aqua Letifer
                  wrote on 25 May 2020, 22:34 last edited by
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                  @Horace said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                  Well I am definitely with the governor in his stance against those who want to hate or shame mask wearers. Meanwhile everybody is wearing a mask wherever I go around here, so as usual I am at a loss to personally identify with these political subcultures we discuss so often online. I do understand having a principled reaction against being required by law to wear a mask, though, and can identify with that. Shaming/hating people for wearing masks? Nope, don't really think it's a thing.

                  About 1 out of 10 people in Ellicott City yesterday were wearing masks. Tons of foot traffic, no social distancing, 1 out of fucking 10.

                  Please love yourself.

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                    25 May 2020, 22:34

                    Maybe I’m making it up. Maybe there’s no such thing as taboo opinions in the Bay Area.

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                    Horace
                    wrote on 25 May 2020, 22:36 last edited by
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                    @jon-nyc said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                    Maybe I’m making it up. Maybe there’s no such thing as taboo opinions in the Bay Area.

                    No, I really do see stigmatization everywhere, usually in the form of sane vs crazy, or smart vs stupid, or moral vs immoral framings of every important political question.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 25 May 2020, 22:48 last edited by
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                      Well then, you understand what the Governor is facing.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 25 May 2020, 23:58 last edited by
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                        I do not in fact understand the degree of this "ossifying stigma" against other people wearing masks.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          xenon
                          wrote on 28 May 2020, 01:32 last edited by
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                          Pure, unadulterated twattery:

                          Link to video

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                            Loki
                            wrote on 28 May 2020, 01:36 last edited by
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                            Big crowds and many without masks in Minneapolis protests today. They didn’t look like Trump supporters. Wonder if it will become a hot spot of a different nature. Will that story be covered?

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                              28 May 2020, 01:36

                              Big crowds and many without masks in Minneapolis protests today. They didn’t look like Trump supporters. Wonder if it will become a hot spot of a different nature. Will that story be covered?

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                              George K
                              wrote on 28 May 2020, 01:44 last edited by
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                              @Loki said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                              Big crowds and many without masks in Minneapolis protests today.

                              You misspelled "riots."

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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