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    Jolly
    wrote on 31 Aug 2021, 14:07 last edited by
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    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-us-hospital-icu-bed-shortage-veteran-dies-treatable-illness/?intcid=CNI-00-10aaa3a&ftag=CNM-00-10aab4i#app

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Axtremus
      wrote on 31 Aug 2021, 22:59 last edited by
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      Blame the unvaccinated, blame the anti-vaccination loud mouths on air and online.

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      • A Axtremus
        31 Aug 2021, 22:59

        Blame the unvaccinated, blame the anti-vaccination loud mouths on air and online.

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        Aqua Letifer
        wrote on 31 Aug 2021, 23:05 last edited by
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        @axtremus said in When you have no beds.:

        Blame the unvaccinated, blame the anti-vaccination loud mouths on air and online.

        I'm fucking tired of this "Own it" horseshit. How about we put the scoreboards away and find a way for fewer people die, how about that.

        Please love yourself.

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        • A Aqua Letifer
          31 Aug 2021, 23:05

          @axtremus said in When you have no beds.:

          Blame the unvaccinated, blame the anti-vaccination loud mouths on air and online.

          I'm fucking tired of this "Own it" horseshit. How about we put the scoreboards away and find a way for fewer people die, how about that.

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          Jolly
          wrote on 1 Sept 2021, 00:06 last edited by
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          @aqua-letifer said in When you have no beds.:

          @axtremus said in When you have no beds.:

          Blame the unvaccinated, blame the anti-vaccination loud mouths on air and online.

          I'm fucking tired of this "Own it" horseshit. How about we put the scoreboards away and find a way for fewer people die, how about that.

          You sir, are right.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • A Aqua Letifer
            31 Aug 2021, 23:05

            @axtremus said in When you have no beds.:

            Blame the unvaccinated, blame the anti-vaccination loud mouths on air and online.

            I'm fucking tired of this "Own it" horseshit. How about we put the scoreboards away and find a way for fewer people die, how about that.

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            Axtremus
            wrote on 1 Sept 2021, 00:10 last edited by
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            @aqua-letifer said in When you have no beds.:

            @axtremus said in When you have no beds.:

            Blame the unvaccinated, blame the anti-vaccination loud mouths on air and online.

            I'm fucking tired of this "Own it" horseshit. How about we put the scoreboards away and find a way for fewer people die, how about that.

            One of the ways is to tell the unvaccinated and the anti-vaccination loudmouths that this is one of the consequences of their choices and their actions.

            So I say again, blame the unvaccinated, blame the anti-vaccination loud mouths, on air and online.

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            • A Aqua Letifer
              31 Aug 2021, 23:05

              @axtremus said in When you have no beds.:

              Blame the unvaccinated, blame the anti-vaccination loud mouths on air and online.

              I'm fucking tired of this "Own it" horseshit. How about we put the scoreboards away and find a way for fewer people die, how about that.

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              Mik
              wrote on 1 Sept 2021, 00:18 last edited by
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              @aqua-letifer said in When you have no beds.:

              @axtremus said in When you have no beds.:

              Blame the unvaccinated, blame the anti-vaccination loud mouths on air and online.

              I'm fucking tired of this "Own it" horseshit. How about we put the scoreboards away and find a way for fewer people die, how about that.

              Amen, brother.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 1 Sept 2021, 00:32 last edited by
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                This was something they said to us at work regarding deciding whether to travel or not - management made the point that it's not just the Covid risk, but if you have a car accident, or fall down stairs or whatever, if you're in a high risk area your treatment could be significantly impacted.

                To be honest, I don't need much of an excuse to avoid business travel. Eating all by myself in a fancy restaurant isn't exactly a bundle of fun at the best of times.

                I was only joking

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                • A Axtremus
                  1 Sept 2021, 00:10

                  @aqua-letifer said in When you have no beds.:

                  @axtremus said in When you have no beds.:

                  Blame the unvaccinated, blame the anti-vaccination loud mouths on air and online.

                  I'm fucking tired of this "Own it" horseshit. How about we put the scoreboards away and find a way for fewer people die, how about that.

                  One of the ways is to tell the unvaccinated and the anti-vaccination loudmouths that this is one of the consequences of their choices and their actions.

                  So I say again, blame the unvaccinated, blame the anti-vaccination loud mouths, on air and online.

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                  Copper
                  wrote on 1 Sept 2021, 01:25 last edited by
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                  @axtremus said in When you have no beds.:

                  blame

                  What does that mean, exactly, 'blame them'?

                  So what if you blame them?

                  You might as well go all out and tell them to shut up too.

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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on 1 Sept 2021, 01:38 last edited by
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                    It’s not all of the unvaccinated people’s fault, just the ones that got sick…

                    The Brad

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                    • D Doctor Phibes
                      1 Sept 2021, 00:32

                      This was something they said to us at work regarding deciding whether to travel or not - management made the point that it's not just the Covid risk, but if you have a car accident, or fall down stairs or whatever, if you're in a high risk area your treatment could be significantly impacted.

                      To be honest, I don't need much of an excuse to avoid business travel. Eating all by myself in a fancy restaurant isn't exactly a bundle of fun at the best of times.

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                      Loki
                      wrote on 1 Sept 2021, 01:55 last edited by
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                      @doctor-phibes said in When you have no beds.:

                      This was something they said to us at work regarding deciding whether to travel or not - management made the point that it's not just the Covid risk, but if you have a car accident, or fall down stairs or whatever, if you're in a high risk area your treatment could be significantly impacted.

                      To be honest, I don't need much of an excuse to avoid business travel. Eating all by myself in a fancy restaurant isn't exactly a bundle of fun at the best of times.

                      Yup.

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                      • D Doctor Phibes
                        1 Sept 2021, 00:32

                        This was something they said to us at work regarding deciding whether to travel or not - management made the point that it's not just the Covid risk, but if you have a car accident, or fall down stairs or whatever, if you're in a high risk area your treatment could be significantly impacted.

                        To be honest, I don't need much of an excuse to avoid business travel. Eating all by myself in a fancy restaurant isn't exactly a bundle of fun at the best of times.

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 1 Sept 2021, 02:01 last edited by
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                        @doctor-phibes said in When you have no beds.:

                        Eating all by myself in a fancy restaurant isn't exactly a bundle of fun at the best of times.

                        I've always enjoyed that.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 1 Sept 2021, 02:08 last edited by
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                          Back to the point, what happened to the big push for gearing up for COVID? Both in equipment and personnel? There was the agreement between state governors to share resources as needed, making sure active hotspots got the support they needed. Beds, oxygen tanks, ventilators, and even personnel being sent cross country. FEMA prepping overflow sites, certain hospitals designated for COVID and others for non-COVID needs. Hospital ships mobilized and National Guard mobilized and assisting in all ways necessary… What happened to that spirit? Now you have a few states struggling and other states shaking their heads saying “sucks to be them…”

                          The Brad

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                            1 Sept 2021, 02:01

                            @doctor-phibes said in When you have no beds.:

                            Eating all by myself in a fancy restaurant isn't exactly a bundle of fun at the best of times.

                            I've always enjoyed that.

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 1 Sept 2021, 02:41 last edited by
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                            @horace said in When you have no beds.:

                            @doctor-phibes said in When you have no beds.:

                            Eating all by myself in a fancy restaurant isn't exactly a bundle of fun at the best of times.

                            I've always enjoyed that.

                            Yeah, I got very used to it. Always eat at the bar and it is usually better than dinner with co-workers.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • L LuFins Dad
                              1 Sept 2021, 02:08

                              Back to the point, what happened to the big push for gearing up for COVID? Both in equipment and personnel? There was the agreement between state governors to share resources as needed, making sure active hotspots got the support they needed. Beds, oxygen tanks, ventilators, and even personnel being sent cross country. FEMA prepping overflow sites, certain hospitals designated for COVID and others for non-COVID needs. Hospital ships mobilized and National Guard mobilized and assisting in all ways necessary… What happened to that spirit? Now you have a few states struggling and other states shaking their heads saying “sucks to be them…”

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 1 Sept 2021, 03:01 last edited by
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                              @lufins-dad said in When you have no beds.:

                              Back to the point, what happened to the big push for gearing up for COVID? Both in equipment and personnel? There was the agreement between state governors to share resources as needed, making sure active hotspots got the support they needed. Beds, oxygen tanks, ventilators, and even personnel being sent cross country. FEMA prepping overflow sites, certain hospitals designated for COVID and others for non-COVID needs. Hospital ships mobilized and National Guard mobilized and assisting in all ways necessary… What happened to that spirit? Now you have a few states struggling and other states shaking their heads saying “sucks to be them…”

                              Red states don't matter.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                1 Sept 2021, 02:08

                                Back to the point, what happened to the big push for gearing up for COVID? Both in equipment and personnel? There was the agreement between state governors to share resources as needed, making sure active hotspots got the support they needed. Beds, oxygen tanks, ventilators, and even personnel being sent cross country. FEMA prepping overflow sites, certain hospitals designated for COVID and others for non-COVID needs. Hospital ships mobilized and National Guard mobilized and assisting in all ways necessary… What happened to that spirit? Now you have a few states struggling and other states shaking their heads saying “sucks to be them…”

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                                Loki
                                wrote on 1 Sept 2021, 03:19 last edited by
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                                @lufins-dad said in When you have no beds.:

                                Back to the point, what happened to the big push for gearing up for COVID? Both in equipment and personnel? There was the agreement between state governors to share resources as needed, making sure active hotspots got the support they needed. Beds, oxygen tanks, ventilators, and even personnel being sent cross country. FEMA prepping overflow sites, certain hospitals designated for COVID and others for non-COVID needs. Hospital ships mobilized and National Guard mobilized and assisting in all ways necessary… What happened to that spirit? Now you have a few states struggling and other states shaking their heads saying “sucks to be them…”

                                It’s an interesting question and it deserves a real answer. It’s a lot of people making similar decisions.

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 1 Sept 2021, 03:32 last edited by
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                                  That was a real answer. Look at Jon's attitude towards the unvaccinated Trumpists. He's not alone, I've read similar by lots of people.

                                  Couple that disdain with the punishment gene locked in many Dem politicians souls and sprinkle on some lack of leadership, and you suddenly have a dysfunctional apparatus...

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    Loki
                                    wrote on 1 Sept 2021, 11:22 last edited by
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                                    Operation Warp Speed was the answer. The south was not only reluctant but Governors didn’t ask for help like we saw last time. Isn’t it denial playing through?

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                                    • M Mik
                                      1 Sept 2021, 02:41

                                      @horace said in When you have no beds.:

                                      @doctor-phibes said in When you have no beds.:

                                      Eating all by myself in a fancy restaurant isn't exactly a bundle of fun at the best of times.

                                      I've always enjoyed that.

                                      Yeah, I got very used to it. Always eat at the bar and it is usually better than dinner with co-workers.

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                                      89th
                                      wrote on 1 Sept 2021, 11:48 last edited by
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                                      @mik said in When you have no beds.:

                                      @horace said in When you have no beds.:

                                      @doctor-phibes said in When you have no beds.:

                                      Eating all by myself in a fancy restaurant isn't exactly a bundle of fun at the best of times.

                                      I've always enjoyed that.

                                      Yeah, I got very used to it. Always eat at the bar and it is usually better than dinner with co-workers.

                                      Totally. I've never had a problem traveling or exploring a city on my own. I kind of prefer it. I also enjoy playing golf alone, and going to the movies solo over the holidays. I know... weird, but maybe also a side effect of having kids, lolz

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                                      • A Aqua Letifer
                                        31 Aug 2021, 23:05

                                        @axtremus said in When you have no beds.:

                                        Blame the unvaccinated, blame the anti-vaccination loud mouths on air and online.

                                        I'm fucking tired of this "Own it" horseshit. How about we put the scoreboards away and find a way for fewer people die, how about that.

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                                        89th
                                        wrote on 1 Sept 2021, 11:51 last edited by
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                                        @aqua-letifer said in When you have no beds.:

                                        How about we put the scoreboards away and find a way for fewer people die, how about that.

                                        One could argue we have found a way. We effectively have the antidote, we just need people to take it so they don't die or fill up hospitals needed by others.

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                                          1 Sept 2021, 11:48

                                          @mik said in When you have no beds.:

                                          @horace said in When you have no beds.:

                                          @doctor-phibes said in When you have no beds.:

                                          Eating all by myself in a fancy restaurant isn't exactly a bundle of fun at the best of times.

                                          I've always enjoyed that.

                                          Yeah, I got very used to it. Always eat at the bar and it is usually better than dinner with co-workers.

                                          Totally. I've never had a problem traveling or exploring a city on my own. I kind of prefer it. I also enjoy playing golf alone, and going to the movies solo over the holidays. I know... weird, but maybe also a side effect of having kids, lolz

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                                          Mik
                                          wrote on 1 Sept 2021, 14:21 last edited by
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                                          @89th said in When you have no beds.:

                                          @mik said in When you have no beds.:

                                          @horace said in When you have no beds.:

                                          @doctor-phibes said in When you have no beds.:

                                          Eating all by myself in a fancy restaurant isn't exactly a bundle of fun at the best of times.

                                          I've always enjoyed that.

                                          Yeah, I got very used to it. Always eat at the bar and it is usually better than dinner with co-workers.

                                          Totally. I've never had a problem traveling or exploring a city on my own. I kind of prefer it. I also enjoy playing golf alone, and going to the movies solo over the holidays. I know... weird, but maybe also a side effect of having kids, lolz

                                          Same here. Nothing to do with being a parent, just a willingness to enjoy my own company.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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