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When you have no beds.

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  • AxtremusA Axtremus

    Blame the unvaccinated, blame the anti-vaccination loud mouths on air and online.

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    @axtremus said in When you have no beds.:

    Blame the unvaccinated, blame the anti-vaccination loud mouths on air and online.

    I'm fucking tired of this "Own it" horseshit. How about we put the scoreboards away and find a way for fewer people die, how about that.

    Please love yourself.

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    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

      @axtremus said in When you have no beds.:

      Blame the unvaccinated, blame the anti-vaccination loud mouths on air and online.

      I'm fucking tired of this "Own it" horseshit. How about we put the scoreboards away and find a way for fewer people die, how about that.

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      @aqua-letifer said in When you have no beds.:

      @axtremus said in When you have no beds.:

      Blame the unvaccinated, blame the anti-vaccination loud mouths on air and online.

      I'm fucking tired of this "Own it" horseshit. How about we put the scoreboards away and find a way for fewer people die, how about that.

      You sir, are right.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

        @axtremus said in When you have no beds.:

        Blame the unvaccinated, blame the anti-vaccination loud mouths on air and online.

        I'm fucking tired of this "Own it" horseshit. How about we put the scoreboards away and find a way for fewer people die, how about that.

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        @aqua-letifer said in When you have no beds.:

        @axtremus said in When you have no beds.:

        Blame the unvaccinated, blame the anti-vaccination loud mouths on air and online.

        I'm fucking tired of this "Own it" horseshit. How about we put the scoreboards away and find a way for fewer people die, how about that.

        One of the ways is to tell the unvaccinated and the anti-vaccination loudmouths that this is one of the consequences of their choices and their actions.

        So I say again, blame the unvaccinated, blame the anti-vaccination loud mouths, on air and online.

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        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

          @axtremus said in When you have no beds.:

          Blame the unvaccinated, blame the anti-vaccination loud mouths on air and online.

          I'm fucking tired of this "Own it" horseshit. How about we put the scoreboards away and find a way for fewer people die, how about that.

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          @aqua-letifer said in When you have no beds.:

          @axtremus said in When you have no beds.:

          Blame the unvaccinated, blame the anti-vaccination loud mouths on air and online.

          I'm fucking tired of this "Own it" horseshit. How about we put the scoreboards away and find a way for fewer people die, how about that.

          Amen, brother.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            This was something they said to us at work regarding deciding whether to travel or not - management made the point that it's not just the Covid risk, but if you have a car accident, or fall down stairs or whatever, if you're in a high risk area your treatment could be significantly impacted.

            To be honest, I don't need much of an excuse to avoid business travel. Eating all by myself in a fancy restaurant isn't exactly a bundle of fun at the best of times.

            I was only joking

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            • AxtremusA Axtremus

              @aqua-letifer said in When you have no beds.:

              @axtremus said in When you have no beds.:

              Blame the unvaccinated, blame the anti-vaccination loud mouths on air and online.

              I'm fucking tired of this "Own it" horseshit. How about we put the scoreboards away and find a way for fewer people die, how about that.

              One of the ways is to tell the unvaccinated and the anti-vaccination loudmouths that this is one of the consequences of their choices and their actions.

              So I say again, blame the unvaccinated, blame the anti-vaccination loud mouths, on air and online.

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              @axtremus said in When you have no beds.:

              blame

              What does that mean, exactly, 'blame them'?

              So what if you blame them?

              You might as well go all out and tell them to shut up too.

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                It’s not all of the unvaccinated people’s fault, just the ones that got sick…

                The Brad

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  This was something they said to us at work regarding deciding whether to travel or not - management made the point that it's not just the Covid risk, but if you have a car accident, or fall down stairs or whatever, if you're in a high risk area your treatment could be significantly impacted.

                  To be honest, I don't need much of an excuse to avoid business travel. Eating all by myself in a fancy restaurant isn't exactly a bundle of fun at the best of times.

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                  Loki
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                  @doctor-phibes said in When you have no beds.:

                  This was something they said to us at work regarding deciding whether to travel or not - management made the point that it's not just the Covid risk, but if you have a car accident, or fall down stairs or whatever, if you're in a high risk area your treatment could be significantly impacted.

                  To be honest, I don't need much of an excuse to avoid business travel. Eating all by myself in a fancy restaurant isn't exactly a bundle of fun at the best of times.

                  Yup.

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    This was something they said to us at work regarding deciding whether to travel or not - management made the point that it's not just the Covid risk, but if you have a car accident, or fall down stairs or whatever, if you're in a high risk area your treatment could be significantly impacted.

                    To be honest, I don't need much of an excuse to avoid business travel. Eating all by myself in a fancy restaurant isn't exactly a bundle of fun at the best of times.

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                    @doctor-phibes said in When you have no beds.:

                    Eating all by myself in a fancy restaurant isn't exactly a bundle of fun at the best of times.

                    I've always enjoyed that.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      Back to the point, what happened to the big push for gearing up for COVID? Both in equipment and personnel? There was the agreement between state governors to share resources as needed, making sure active hotspots got the support they needed. Beds, oxygen tanks, ventilators, and even personnel being sent cross country. FEMA prepping overflow sites, certain hospitals designated for COVID and others for non-COVID needs. Hospital ships mobilized and National Guard mobilized and assisting in all ways necessary… What happened to that spirit? Now you have a few states struggling and other states shaking their heads saying “sucks to be them…”

                      The Brad

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        @doctor-phibes said in When you have no beds.:

                        Eating all by myself in a fancy restaurant isn't exactly a bundle of fun at the best of times.

                        I've always enjoyed that.

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                        @horace said in When you have no beds.:

                        @doctor-phibes said in When you have no beds.:

                        Eating all by myself in a fancy restaurant isn't exactly a bundle of fun at the best of times.

                        I've always enjoyed that.

                        Yeah, I got very used to it. Always eat at the bar and it is usually better than dinner with co-workers.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          Back to the point, what happened to the big push for gearing up for COVID? Both in equipment and personnel? There was the agreement between state governors to share resources as needed, making sure active hotspots got the support they needed. Beds, oxygen tanks, ventilators, and even personnel being sent cross country. FEMA prepping overflow sites, certain hospitals designated for COVID and others for non-COVID needs. Hospital ships mobilized and National Guard mobilized and assisting in all ways necessary… What happened to that spirit? Now you have a few states struggling and other states shaking their heads saying “sucks to be them…”

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                          Jolly
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                          @lufins-dad said in When you have no beds.:

                          Back to the point, what happened to the big push for gearing up for COVID? Both in equipment and personnel? There was the agreement between state governors to share resources as needed, making sure active hotspots got the support they needed. Beds, oxygen tanks, ventilators, and even personnel being sent cross country. FEMA prepping overflow sites, certain hospitals designated for COVID and others for non-COVID needs. Hospital ships mobilized and National Guard mobilized and assisting in all ways necessary… What happened to that spirit? Now you have a few states struggling and other states shaking their heads saying “sucks to be them…”

                          Red states don't matter.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                            Back to the point, what happened to the big push for gearing up for COVID? Both in equipment and personnel? There was the agreement between state governors to share resources as needed, making sure active hotspots got the support they needed. Beds, oxygen tanks, ventilators, and even personnel being sent cross country. FEMA prepping overflow sites, certain hospitals designated for COVID and others for non-COVID needs. Hospital ships mobilized and National Guard mobilized and assisting in all ways necessary… What happened to that spirit? Now you have a few states struggling and other states shaking their heads saying “sucks to be them…”

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                            @lufins-dad said in When you have no beds.:

                            Back to the point, what happened to the big push for gearing up for COVID? Both in equipment and personnel? There was the agreement between state governors to share resources as needed, making sure active hotspots got the support they needed. Beds, oxygen tanks, ventilators, and even personnel being sent cross country. FEMA prepping overflow sites, certain hospitals designated for COVID and others for non-COVID needs. Hospital ships mobilized and National Guard mobilized and assisting in all ways necessary… What happened to that spirit? Now you have a few states struggling and other states shaking their heads saying “sucks to be them…”

                            It’s an interesting question and it deserves a real answer. It’s a lot of people making similar decisions.

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                              Jolly
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                              That was a real answer. Look at Jon's attitude towards the unvaccinated Trumpists. He's not alone, I've read similar by lots of people.

                              Couple that disdain with the punishment gene locked in many Dem politicians souls and sprinkle on some lack of leadership, and you suddenly have a dysfunctional apparatus...

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                Loki
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                                Operation Warp Speed was the answer. The south was not only reluctant but Governors didn’t ask for help like we saw last time. Isn’t it denial playing through?

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  @horace said in When you have no beds.:

                                  @doctor-phibes said in When you have no beds.:

                                  Eating all by myself in a fancy restaurant isn't exactly a bundle of fun at the best of times.

                                  I've always enjoyed that.

                                  Yeah, I got very used to it. Always eat at the bar and it is usually better than dinner with co-workers.

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                                  @mik said in When you have no beds.:

                                  @horace said in When you have no beds.:

                                  @doctor-phibes said in When you have no beds.:

                                  Eating all by myself in a fancy restaurant isn't exactly a bundle of fun at the best of times.

                                  I've always enjoyed that.

                                  Yeah, I got very used to it. Always eat at the bar and it is usually better than dinner with co-workers.

                                  Totally. I've never had a problem traveling or exploring a city on my own. I kind of prefer it. I also enjoy playing golf alone, and going to the movies solo over the holidays. I know... weird, but maybe also a side effect of having kids, lolz

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                                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                    @axtremus said in When you have no beds.:

                                    Blame the unvaccinated, blame the anti-vaccination loud mouths on air and online.

                                    I'm fucking tired of this "Own it" horseshit. How about we put the scoreboards away and find a way for fewer people die, how about that.

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                                    @aqua-letifer said in When you have no beds.:

                                    How about we put the scoreboards away and find a way for fewer people die, how about that.

                                    One could argue we have found a way. We effectively have the antidote, we just need people to take it so they don't die or fill up hospitals needed by others.

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                                    • 89th8 89th

                                      @mik said in When you have no beds.:

                                      @horace said in When you have no beds.:

                                      @doctor-phibes said in When you have no beds.:

                                      Eating all by myself in a fancy restaurant isn't exactly a bundle of fun at the best of times.

                                      I've always enjoyed that.

                                      Yeah, I got very used to it. Always eat at the bar and it is usually better than dinner with co-workers.

                                      Totally. I've never had a problem traveling or exploring a city on my own. I kind of prefer it. I also enjoy playing golf alone, and going to the movies solo over the holidays. I know... weird, but maybe also a side effect of having kids, lolz

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                                      @89th said in When you have no beds.:

                                      @mik said in When you have no beds.:

                                      @horace said in When you have no beds.:

                                      @doctor-phibes said in When you have no beds.:

                                      Eating all by myself in a fancy restaurant isn't exactly a bundle of fun at the best of times.

                                      I've always enjoyed that.

                                      Yeah, I got very used to it. Always eat at the bar and it is usually better than dinner with co-workers.

                                      Totally. I've never had a problem traveling or exploring a city on my own. I kind of prefer it. I also enjoy playing golf alone, and going to the movies solo over the holidays. I know... weird, but maybe also a side effect of having kids, lolz

                                      Same here. Nothing to do with being a parent, just a willingness to enjoy my own company.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/09/12/alabama-ray-demonia-hospitals-icu/

                                        Alabama man dies after being turned away from 43 hospitals as covid packs ICUs
                                        …
                                        Now, in DeMonia’s obituary, his family is urging those who remain unvaccinated to get immunized to help hospitals that have been pushed to their limits and struggling to treat emergencies not related to the pandemic.
                                        …
                                        When the time came to write the obituary, Raven DeMonia said, her mother wanted to add the line about vaccination as part of their remembrance. The move was similar to that of others across the country whose loved ones have died because of the resurgent virus or the toll it has taken on hospitals.
                                        …

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                                          Yep, but this is the news, so the odd or salacious sells. Yes, we've had a bed problem. But it's as much a staffing problem as a bed problem. It's also a service type problem.

                                          Case in point....I was doing my PRN gig yesterday and we had a guy present with a CKMB of 5.1 and an elevated Troponin I. The hospital is meat and potatoes, we don't crack chests. We've got beds, but not the right kind.

                                          So, they have to start working the phones, seeing where they can send this guy. After getting turned down by a half-dozen hospitals, they finally find a bed. The nurse walks out to talk to the family about where he is being transferred, while the doc informs the patient and wraps up the transfer protocol. Acadian sets a bird on the pad in thirty minutes, patient is loaded and he choppers off.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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