Trump calls on Biden to ‘resign in disgrace’ over crisis in Afghanistan
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wrote on 16 Aug 2021, 19:36 last edited by xenon
Buck stops with the President, so Joe is on the hook for this one . But, let’s not act like Trump had any great thinking or actions on this topic.
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Buck stops with the President, so Joe is on the hook for this one . But, let’s not act like Trump had any great thinking or actions on this topic.
wrote on 16 Aug 2021, 21:08 last edited by@xenon said in Trump calls on Biden to ‘resign in disgrace’ over crisis in Afghanistan:
Buck stops with the President, so Joe is on the hook for this one . But, let’s not act like Trump had any great thinking or actions on this topic.
You really should educate yourself with the facts before you spew your stupid Trump digs. Trump began refusing our presence in Afghanistan during his last year in office. He made it clear to both the Afghanistan military as well as the Taliban that we were pulling out - but he did 3 things:
- He didn't give a date when it would happen
- He made it clear that we would leave an elite force in place in case the Taliban decided to be opportunistic.
- He told the leaders of the Taliban that if even one American was harmed during the process we would unleash he'll on them.
Not a single casualty occurred during that time, so stop trying to equate the two. It just shows your bias.
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wrote on 16 Aug 2021, 21:34 last edited by
I'm not sure the pullout would have been much better in the last administration, but I do think Biden is perceived as weak. Trump has his weak points but backing down from a fight is not one of them.
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wrote on 16 Aug 2021, 21:39 last edited by Catseye3
I don't give a flying f*ck what Trump demands. He needs to remember where he is -- or rather, where he isn't -- and STFU on matters of state.
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wrote on 16 Aug 2021, 21:44 last edited by
That would be nice. From all previous presidents.
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wrote on 16 Aug 2021, 21:48 last edited by
@mik said in Trump calls on Biden to ‘resign in disgrace’ over crisis in Afghanistan:
That would be nice. From all previous presidents.
Or better yet if they want to comment, they should get together and try and find a united statement. I know, never gonna happen.
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wrote on 16 Aug 2021, 21:52 last edited by
Better chance they will all STFU. Which is to say none.
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wrote on 16 Aug 2021, 21:52 last edited by Catseye3
I've not seen any commentary from former presidents on all this. I think there's a tradition of not butting in; there's an understanding of what it's like to be in the hot seat, and they had their turn and now it's so-and-so's turn, and leave him to it.
It's kind of like when Tom Brady was asked to comment on Aaron Rodgers' troubles, and what advice he would give him. I don't recall Brady's exact words, but it was something to the effect that Rodgers knows what he's doing and he, Brady, had faith that Rodgers would handle it just fine.
Kind of like that.
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I've not seen any commentary from former presidents on all this. I think there's a tradition of not butting in; there's an understanding of what it's like to be in the hot seat, and they had their turn and now it's so-and-so's turn, and leave him to it.
It's kind of like when Tom Brady was asked to comment on Aaron Rodgers' troubles, and what advice he would give him. I don't recall Brady's exact words, but it was something to the effect that Rodgers knows what he's doing and he, Brady, had faith that Rodgers would handle it just fine.
Kind of like that.
wrote on 16 Aug 2021, 21:53 last edited by@catseye3 said in Trump calls on Biden to ‘resign in disgrace’ over crisis in Afghanistan:
I think there's a tradition of not butting in
I may be wrong, but I think 44 broke that tradition.
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I've not seen any commentary from former presidents on all this. I think there's a tradition of not butting in; there's an understanding of what it's like to be in the hot seat, and they had their turn and now it's so-and-so's turn, and leave him to it.
It's kind of like when Tom Brady was asked to comment on Aaron Rodgers' troubles, and what advice he would give him. I don't recall Brady's exact words, but it was something to the effect that Rodgers knows what he's doing and he, Brady, had faith that Rodgers would handle it just fine.
Kind of like that.
wrote on 16 Aug 2021, 21:54 last edited by@catseye3 said in Trump calls on Biden to ‘resign in disgrace’ over crisis in Afghanistan:
I've not seen any commentary from former presidents on all this. I think there's a tradition of not butting in; there's an understanding of what it's like to be in the hot seat, and they had their turn and now it's so-and-so's turn, and leave him to it.
One big difference between Trump and other former Presidents, Trump is still a potential candidate for the office in the future.
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wrote on 16 Aug 2021, 21:54 last edited by Mik
yes, and 44 was the first president in memory to blame all his problems on his predecessor.
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I've not seen any commentary from former presidents on all this. I think there's a tradition of not butting in; there's an understanding of what it's like to be in the hot seat, and they had their turn and now it's so-and-so's turn, and leave him to it.
It's kind of like when Tom Brady was asked to comment on Aaron Rodgers' troubles, and what advice he would give him. I don't recall Brady's exact words, but it was something to the effect that Rodgers knows what he's doing and he, Brady, had faith that Rodgers would handle it just fine.
Kind of like that.
wrote on 16 Aug 2021, 21:54 last edited by Loki@catseye3 said in Trump calls on Biden to ‘resign in disgrace’ over crisis in Afghanistan:
I've not seen any commentary from former presidents on all this. I think there's a tradition of not butting in; there's an understanding of what it's like to be in the hot seat, and they had their turn and now it's so-and-so's turn, and leave him to it.
To your point..
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/barack-obama-instagram-comments-afghanistan-collapse
It Bush had a few prescient points a month ago:
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wrote on 16 Aug 2021, 21:57 last edited by
Fine. Whatever.
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wrote on 16 Aug 2021, 21:58 last edited by
@catseye3 said in Trump calls on Biden to ‘resign in disgrace’ over crisis in Afghanistan:
Fine. Whatever.
That wasn’t for me was it? I don’t think I said anything to get that comment.
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wrote on 16 Aug 2021, 21:59 last edited by
I guess I wonder what a long term presence there that guaranteed women's education, etc. would have had. That would be nearly two generations of Afghans growing up in that situation. We're still in South Korea and Europe We still have a small presence in Iraq.
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@catseye3 said in Trump calls on Biden to ‘resign in disgrace’ over crisis in Afghanistan:
Fine. Whatever.
That wasn’t for me was it? I don’t think I said anything to get that comment.
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wrote on 16 Aug 2021, 22:02 last edited by
Do you guys think Biden will resign?
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wrote on 16 Aug 2021, 22:02 last edited by
@horace said in Trump calls on Biden to ‘resign in disgrace’ over crisis in Afghanistan:
Do you guys think Biden will resign?
Nah. His handlers won't let him.
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wrote on 16 Aug 2021, 22:05 last edited by
Please, the press will forget about it by September.
Joe will forget about it by Wednesday unless he takes his pill…
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@horace said in Trump calls on Biden to ‘resign in disgrace’ over crisis in Afghanistan:
Do you guys think Biden will resign?
Nah. His handlers won't let him.
wrote on 16 Aug 2021, 22:07 last edited by@george-k said in Trump calls on Biden to ‘resign in disgrace’ over crisis in Afghanistan:
@horace said in Trump calls on Biden to ‘resign in disgrace’ over crisis in Afghanistan:
Do you guys think Biden will resign?
Nah. His handlers won't let him.
All I know is that Trump demanded it. I would be very careful about crossing Trump, if I were Biden. Trump is almost as dangerous as robots. And everybody knows how scared the elderly are of robots.