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Trump calls on Biden to ‘resign in disgrace’ over crisis in Afghanistan

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  • X xenon

    Buck stops with the President, so Joe is on the hook for this one . But, let’s not act like Trump had any great thinking or actions on this topic.

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    @xenon said in Trump calls on Biden to ‘resign in disgrace’ over crisis in Afghanistan:

    Buck stops with the President, so Joe is on the hook for this one . But, let’s not act like Trump had any great thinking or actions on this topic.

    You really should educate yourself with the facts before you spew your stupid Trump digs. Trump began refusing our presence in Afghanistan during his last year in office. He made it clear to both the Afghanistan military as well as the Taliban that we were pulling out - but he did 3 things:

    1. He didn't give a date when it would happen
    2. He made it clear that we would leave an elite force in place in case the Taliban decided to be opportunistic.
    3. He told the leaders of the Taliban that if even one American was harmed during the process we would unleash he'll on them.

    Not a single casualty occurred during that time, so stop trying to equate the two. It just shows your bias.

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      I'm not sure the pullout would have been much better in the last administration, but I do think Biden is perceived as weak. Trump has his weak points but backing down from a fight is not one of them.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        #5

        I don't give a flying f*ck what Trump demands. He needs to remember where he is -- or rather, where he isn't -- and STFU on matters of state.

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          That would be nice. From all previous presidents.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • MikM Mik

            That would be nice. From all previous presidents.

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            @mik said in Trump calls on Biden to ‘resign in disgrace’ over crisis in Afghanistan:

            That would be nice. From all previous presidents.

            Or better yet if they want to comment, they should get together and try and find a united statement. I know, never gonna happen.

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              Better chance they will all STFU. Which is to say none.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                I've not seen any commentary from former presidents on all this. I think there's a tradition of not butting in; there's an understanding of what it's like to be in the hot seat, and they had their turn and now it's so-and-so's turn, and leave him to it.

                It's kind of like when Tom Brady was asked to comment on Aaron Rodgers' troubles, and what advice he would give him. I don't recall Brady's exact words, but it was something to the effect that Rodgers knows what he's doing and he, Brady, had faith that Rodgers would handle it just fine.

                Kind of like that.

                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                • Catseye3C Catseye3

                  I've not seen any commentary from former presidents on all this. I think there's a tradition of not butting in; there's an understanding of what it's like to be in the hot seat, and they had their turn and now it's so-and-so's turn, and leave him to it.

                  It's kind of like when Tom Brady was asked to comment on Aaron Rodgers' troubles, and what advice he would give him. I don't recall Brady's exact words, but it was something to the effect that Rodgers knows what he's doing and he, Brady, had faith that Rodgers would handle it just fine.

                  Kind of like that.

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                  @catseye3 said in Trump calls on Biden to ‘resign in disgrace’ over crisis in Afghanistan:

                  I think there's a tradition of not butting in

                  I may be wrong, but I think 44 broke that tradition.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • Catseye3C Catseye3

                    I've not seen any commentary from former presidents on all this. I think there's a tradition of not butting in; there's an understanding of what it's like to be in the hot seat, and they had their turn and now it's so-and-so's turn, and leave him to it.

                    It's kind of like when Tom Brady was asked to comment on Aaron Rodgers' troubles, and what advice he would give him. I don't recall Brady's exact words, but it was something to the effect that Rodgers knows what he's doing and he, Brady, had faith that Rodgers would handle it just fine.

                    Kind of like that.

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                    @catseye3 said in Trump calls on Biden to ‘resign in disgrace’ over crisis in Afghanistan:

                    I've not seen any commentary from former presidents on all this. I think there's a tradition of not butting in; there's an understanding of what it's like to be in the hot seat, and they had their turn and now it's so-and-so's turn, and leave him to it.

                    One big difference between Trump and other former Presidents, Trump is still a potential candidate for the office in the future.

                    The Brad

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                      yes, and 44 was the first president in memory to blame all his problems on his predecessor.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • Catseye3C Catseye3

                        I've not seen any commentary from former presidents on all this. I think there's a tradition of not butting in; there's an understanding of what it's like to be in the hot seat, and they had their turn and now it's so-and-so's turn, and leave him to it.

                        It's kind of like when Tom Brady was asked to comment on Aaron Rodgers' troubles, and what advice he would give him. I don't recall Brady's exact words, but it was something to the effect that Rodgers knows what he's doing and he, Brady, had faith that Rodgers would handle it just fine.

                        Kind of like that.

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                        @catseye3 said in Trump calls on Biden to ‘resign in disgrace’ over crisis in Afghanistan:

                        I've not seen any commentary from former presidents on all this. I think there's a tradition of not butting in; there's an understanding of what it's like to be in the hot seat, and they had their turn and now it's so-and-so's turn, and leave him to it.

                        To your point..

                        https://www.foxnews.com/politics/barack-obama-instagram-comments-afghanistan-collapse

                        It Bush had a few prescient points a month ago:

                        https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2021/08/16/troops-afghanistan-taliban-george-bush-war-military-withdrawal/8151482002/

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                          Fine. Whatever.

                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                          • Catseye3C Catseye3

                            Fine. Whatever.

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                            @catseye3 said in Trump calls on Biden to ‘resign in disgrace’ over crisis in Afghanistan:

                            Fine. Whatever.

                            That wasn’t for me was it? I don’t think I said anything to get that comment.

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                              I guess I wonder what a long term presence there that guaranteed women's education, etc. would have had. That would be nearly two generations of Afghans growing up in that situation. We're still in South Korea and Europe We still have a small presence in Iraq.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                @catseye3 said in Trump calls on Biden to ‘resign in disgrace’ over crisis in Afghanistan:

                                Fine. Whatever.

                                That wasn’t for me was it? I don’t think I said anything to get that comment.

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                                @loki I meant nothing by it. I said I hadn't seen any prez commentary, not that it hadn't happened. But fine-whatever meant I didn't feel like the point was worth dragging out forever.

                                No offense meant, Loki!

                                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                  Do you guys think Biden will resign?

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • HoraceH Horace

                                    Do you guys think Biden will resign?

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                                    @horace said in Trump calls on Biden to ‘resign in disgrace’ over crisis in Afghanistan:

                                    Do you guys think Biden will resign?

                                    Nah. His handlers won't let him.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Please, the press will forget about it by September.

                                      Joe will forget about it by Wednesday unless he takes his pill…

                                      The Brad

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                                        @horace said in Trump calls on Biden to ‘resign in disgrace’ over crisis in Afghanistan:

                                        Do you guys think Biden will resign?

                                        Nah. His handlers won't let him.

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                                        Horace
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                                        @george-k said in Trump calls on Biden to ‘resign in disgrace’ over crisis in Afghanistan:

                                        @horace said in Trump calls on Biden to ‘resign in disgrace’ over crisis in Afghanistan:

                                        Do you guys think Biden will resign?

                                        Nah. His handlers won't let him.

                                        All I know is that Trump demanded it. I would be very careful about crossing Trump, if I were Biden. Trump is almost as dangerous as robots. And everybody knows how scared the elderly are of robots.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • George KG George K

                                          @catseye3 said in Trump calls on Biden to ‘resign in disgrace’ over crisis in Afghanistan:

                                          I think there's a tradition of not butting in

                                          I may be wrong, but I think 44 broke that tradition.

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                                          @george-k said in Trump calls on Biden to ‘resign in disgrace’ over crisis in Afghanistan:

                                          @catseye3 said in Trump calls on Biden to ‘resign in disgrace’ over crisis in Afghanistan:

                                          I think there's a tradition of not butting in

                                          I may be wrong, but I think 44 broke that tradition.

                                          In half.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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