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"Do Masks Work?"

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    It's really frustrating. People scream "Follow the science!" when there really is no good science that it makes a difference. Looking at North and South Dakota seems to be a good comparison (though, I'm sure there are many uncontrolled variables).

    People who mask probably "socially distance." Which is the variable that makes a difference? I'll submit that we'll never know.

    You're not going to get a good peer-reviewed double-blind study.

    Those comments said, yeah, I wear a mask because, well, why the hell not? It might make a difference.

    It might not.

    But, I still don't see any compelling science.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      I wore one today going into a small green grocer, because they recommended it. I did not when I got my haircut. Who knows. If I am in a place where a lot of folks are I don't mind.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • MikM Mik

        I wore one today going into a small green grocer, because they recommended it. I did not when I got my haircut. Who knows. If I am in a place where a lot of folks are I don't mind.

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        @mik said in "Do Masks Work?":

        I wore one today going into a small green grocer, because they recommended it. I did not when I got my haircut. Who knows. If I am in a place where a lot of folks are I don't mind.

        Same here

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        • George KG George K

          It's really frustrating. People scream "Follow the science!" when there really is no good science that it makes a difference. Looking at North and South Dakota seems to be a good comparison (though, I'm sure there are many uncontrolled variables).

          People who mask probably "socially distance." Which is the variable that makes a difference? I'll submit that we'll never know.

          You're not going to get a good peer-reviewed double-blind study.

          Those comments said, yeah, I wear a mask because, well, why the hell not? It might make a difference.

          It might not.

          But, I still don't see any compelling science.

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          LuFins Dad
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          #44

          @george-k said in "Do Masks Work?":

          It's really frustrating. People scream "Follow the science!" when there really is no good science that it makes a difference. Looking at North and South Dakota seems to be a good comparison (though, I'm sure there are many uncontrolled variables).

          People who mask probably "socially distance." Which is the variable that makes a difference? I'll submit that we'll never know.

          You're not going to get a good peer-reviewed double-blind study.

          Those comments said, yeah, I wear a mask because, well, why the hell not? It might make a difference.

          It might not.

          But, I still don't see any compelling science.

          That’s my view as well.

          The Brad

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            @george-k said in "Do Masks Work?":

            It's really frustrating. People scream "Follow the science!" when there really is no good science that it makes a difference. Looking at North and South Dakota seems to be a good comparison (though, I'm sure there are many uncontrolled variables).

            People who mask probably "socially distance." Which is the variable that makes a difference? I'll submit that we'll never know.

            You're not going to get a good peer-reviewed double-blind study.

            Those comments said, yeah, I wear a mask because, well, why the hell not? It might make a difference.

            It might not.

            But, I still don't see any compelling science.

            That’s my view as well.

            George KG Offline
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            George K
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            @lufins-dad said in "Do Masks Work?":

            That’s my view as well.

            If the "science" used to justify masks were applied to vaccines, we'd have no one vaccinated.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              It's really frustrating. People scream "Follow the science!" when there really is no good science that it makes a difference. Looking at North and South Dakota seems to be a good comparison (though, I'm sure there are many uncontrolled variables).

              People who mask probably "socially distance." Which is the variable that makes a difference? I'll submit that we'll never know.

              You're not going to get a good peer-reviewed double-blind study.

              Those comments said, yeah, I wear a mask because, well, why the hell not? It might make a difference.

              It might not.

              But, I still don't see any compelling science.

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              Loki
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              @george-k said in "Do Masks Work?":

              It's really frustrating. People scream "Follow the science!" when there really is no good science that it makes a difference. Looking at North and South Dakota seems to be a good comparison (though, I'm sure there are many uncontrolled variables).

              People who mask probably "socially distance." Which is the variable that makes a difference? I'll submit that we'll never know.

              You're not going to get a good peer-reviewed double-blind study.

              Those comments said, yeah, I wear a mask because, well, why the hell not? It might make a difference.

              It might not.

              But, I still don't see any compelling science.

              I wear a mask to be respectful and don’t when other people aren’t wearing them. I don’t worry much about Covid for myself at the moment but I wouldn’t go to an indoor venue for a music event.

              I’ve been flying a bit and see that people are good about wearing masks, and right ones and shape right up when they are told to put it over their nose. I can’t tell if some people are trying to test the system but I see they value more not being on the no fly list.

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              • George KG George K

                @lufins-dad said in "Do Masks Work?":

                That’s my view as well.

                If the "science" used to justify masks were applied to vaccines, we'd have no one vaccinated.

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                @george-k said in "Do Masks Work?":

                @lufins-dad said in "Do Masks Work?":

                That’s my view as well.

                If the "science" used to justify masks were applied to vaccines, we'd have no one vaccinated.

                As pointed out by your post earlier about the 2 month spikes, the results of these tests could be based simply on where in the timeline we are measuring….

                The Brad

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                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                  @lufins-dad said in "Do Masks Work?":

                  You mean the study that did nothing of the sort? It ended no debate.

                  What level of assurance would you need to feel comfortable with a rough rule of thumb?

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                  @aqua-letifer said in "Do Masks Work?":

                  @lufins-dad said in "Do Masks Work?":

                  You mean the study that did nothing of the sort? It ended no debate.

                  What level of assurance would you need to feel comfortable with a rough rule of thumb?

                  It was Bangladeshi statistics.

                  What percentage of the Bangladeshi people can count to 10?

                  Find a country where at least 50% of the survey respondents can understand the question.

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                    Loki
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                    #49

                    Defense of the study.

                    https://www.livescience.com/randomized-trial-shows-surgical-masks-work-curbing-covid.html

                    US researchers involved. Currently being peer reviewed.

                    Looks like we may get an answer.

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