The truth is out there - Conspiracies
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wrote on 29 Oct 2021, 17:37 last edited by
So as not to pollute the "Breakthrough" thread. My friend sent this about 2 weeks ago:
"The information he shares here is a wake-up call to Americans. Over 15,000 are now dead from the COVID vaccine, 25,000 are permanently disabled. Why does the CDC and FDA continue to promote these dangerous vaccines?"
I really don't feel like engaging with him on this subject, but the obvious question is: How many would have died without the vaccine(s)?
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So as not to pollute the "Breakthrough" thread. My friend sent this about 2 weeks ago:
"The information he shares here is a wake-up call to Americans. Over 15,000 are now dead from the COVID vaccine, 25,000 are permanently disabled. Why does the CDC and FDA continue to promote these dangerous vaccines?"
I really don't feel like engaging with him on this subject, but the obvious question is: How many would have died without the vaccine(s)?
wrote on 29 Oct 2021, 17:41 last edited by@george-k said in The truth is out there:
Over 15,000 are now dead from the COVID vaccine, 25,000 are permanently disabled. Why does the CDC and FDA continue to promote these dangerous vaccines?"
Umm probably because those numbers are full of shit and the CDC and FDA at least attempt to base their numbers on fact.
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@george-k said in The truth is out there:
Over 15,000 are now dead from the COVID vaccine, 25,000 are permanently disabled. Why does the CDC and FDA continue to promote these dangerous vaccines?"
Umm probably because those numbers are full of shit and the CDC and FDA at least attempt to base their numbers on fact.
wrote on 29 Oct 2021, 18:03 last edited by@89th said in The truth is out there:
@george-k said in The truth is out there:
Over 15,000 are now dead from the COVID vaccine, 25,000 are permanently disabled. Why does the CDC and FDA continue to promote these dangerous vaccines?"
Umm probably because those numbers are full of shit and the CDC and FDA at least attempt to base their numbers on fact.
Meh, even if the numbers are legit, that’s still .02% of the people fully vaccinated… There are always going to be a number of bad reactions to any vaccine or medicine. The question is whether .02% is a satisfactory risk vs the risk of the disease itself.
But I’ve said it before, the VAERS system being open to the public was a horrible idea from the beginning.
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@89th said in The truth is out there:
@george-k said in The truth is out there:
Over 15,000 are now dead from the COVID vaccine, 25,000 are permanently disabled. Why does the CDC and FDA continue to promote these dangerous vaccines?"
Umm probably because those numbers are full of shit and the CDC and FDA at least attempt to base their numbers on fact.
Meh, even if the numbers are legit, that’s still .02% of the people fully vaccinated… There are always going to be a number of bad reactions to any vaccine or medicine. The question is whether .02% is a satisfactory risk vs the risk of the disease itself.
But I’ve said it before, the VAERS system being open to the public was a horrible idea from the beginning.
wrote on 30 Oct 2021, 12:11 last edited by@lufins-dad said in The truth is out there:
@89th said in The truth is out there:
@george-k said in The truth is out there:
Over 15,000 are now dead from the COVID vaccine, 25,000 are permanently disabled. Why does the CDC and FDA continue to promote these dangerous vaccines?"
Umm probably because those numbers are full of shit and the CDC and FDA at least attempt to base their numbers on fact.
Meh, even if the numbers are legit, that’s still .02% of the people fully vaccinated… There are always going to be a number of bad reactions to any vaccine or medicine. The question is whether .02% is a satisfactory risk vs the risk of the disease itself.
But I’ve said it before, the VAERS system being open to the public was a horrible idea from the beginning.
And here's what vaxx opponents will tell you: What is the crude fatality rate of COVID in the American population?
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wrote on 10 Dec 2021, 21:41 last edited by George K 12 Oct 2021, 22:08
My surgeon friend has been forwarding all kinds of anti-vax stuff since I posted here last.
Here's the most recent, talking about "Vaccine Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (VAIDS).
Anyhow, he texted me, and another guy we used to work with (a urologist) about getting together for breakfast. By the way, this urologist is also the target of these text messages.
Reluctantly, I agreed, fearing a 90 minute tirade about how the vaccines are untested and dangerous.
Remarkably, breakfast was a delight. We chatted about our families, reminisced on the good old days of medicine, some politics (Jussie), etc.
After about an hour, the surgeon went to the bathroom, and I looked at the urologist and said, "While Bills in the bathroom, let me ask you: Have you noticed that almost NOTHING has been said about vaccines?"
"Yeah, I think he's being polite since neither of us respond to his vaccine texts, LOL."
Well Bill came back and tried - talking about the supposed 90K deaths reported in the VAERS system due to the vaccine.
I didn't engage, and after a few minutes of non-conversation, we drifted back to other stuff. I left after another 15 minutes or so.
All-in-all, a pleasant morning.
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wrote on 10 Dec 2021, 22:06 last edited by
He tried to lift the scales from your eyes.
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wrote on 10 Dec 2021, 22:13 last edited by
Stuff that he's sent me:
Pandemic of Fear ‘Manufactured’ by Authorities
Army Surgeon Grounds Several Newly Vaccinated Pilots After They Develop Serious Chest Pain
2 million potential COVID jab injuries in 2021
The obvious question, in my mind is this: "OK the vaccines are potentially dangerous according to these sources. We have almost a million dead Americans in just under two years.
What's YOUR solution?"
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wrote on 11 Dec 2021, 02:41 last edited by Doctor Phibes 12 Nov 2021, 02:44
The real question, the answer to which really evades me, is what Western governments are hoping to achieve with this conspiracy. I'm pretty sure that the more dictatorial governments outside the West have lied about the dangers, and downplayed the suffering caused.
So.... what good has come out of this for any western government? Has wearing a mask made us beholden in some way to a cabal of something-or-other? Has getting vaccinated in some way made us subjects rather than citizens? What benefit to these folks get?
What possible powergrab could come out of shutting down pubs and restaurants, barbers shops and department stores?
It's all shit.
I was only joking
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The real question, the answer to which really evades me, is what Western governments are hoping to achieve with this conspiracy. I'm pretty sure that the more dictatorial governments outside the West have lied about the dangers, and downplayed the suffering caused.
So.... what good has come out of this for any western government? Has wearing a mask made us beholden in some way to a cabal of something-or-other? Has getting vaccinated in some way made us subjects rather than citizens? What benefit to these folks get?
What possible powergrab could come out of shutting down pubs and restaurants, barbers shops and department stores?
It's all shit.
wrote on 12 Dec 2021, 03:58 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in The truth is out there:
The real question, the answer to which really evades me, is what Western governments are hoping to achieve with this conspiracy. I'm pretty sure that the more dictatorial governments outside the West have lied about the dangers, and downplayed the suffering caused.
So.... what good has come out of this for any western government? Has wearing a mask made us beholden in some way to a cabal of something-or-other? Has getting vaccinated in some way made us subjects rather than citizens? What benefit to these folks get?
What possible powergrab could come out of shutting down pubs and restaurants, barbers shops and department stores?
It's all shit.
+1
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The real question, the answer to which really evades me, is what Western governments are hoping to achieve with this conspiracy. I'm pretty sure that the more dictatorial governments outside the West have lied about the dangers, and downplayed the suffering caused.
So.... what good has come out of this for any western government? Has wearing a mask made us beholden in some way to a cabal of something-or-other? Has getting vaccinated in some way made us subjects rather than citizens? What benefit to these folks get?
What possible powergrab could come out of shutting down pubs and restaurants, barbers shops and department stores?
It's all shit.
wrote on 12 Dec 2021, 14:18 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in The truth is out there:
What possible powergrab could come out of shutting down pubs and restaurants, barbers shops and department stores?
Increased dependence on the government
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@doctor-phibes said in The truth is out there:
What possible powergrab could come out of shutting down pubs and restaurants, barbers shops and department stores?
Increased dependence on the government
wrote on 12 Dec 2021, 15:20 last edited by@copper said in The truth is out there:
@doctor-phibes said in The truth is out there:
What possible powergrab could come out of shutting down pubs and restaurants, barbers shops and department stores?
Increased dependence on the government
Sorry, that's completely bonkers.
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@copper said in The truth is out there:
@doctor-phibes said in The truth is out there:
What possible powergrab could come out of shutting down pubs and restaurants, barbers shops and department stores?
Increased dependence on the government
Sorry, that's completely bonkers.
wrote on 12 Dec 2021, 15:43 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in The truth is out there:
@copper said in The truth is out there:
@doctor-phibes said in The truth is out there:
What possible powergrab could come out of shutting down pubs and restaurants, barbers shops and department stores?
Increased dependence on the government
Sorry, that's completely bonkers.
Didn't you get the word?
They are in the process of shutting down everything that is as American as apple pie.
Then they will swoop in and take over
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wrote on 7 Jan 2023, 22:05 last edited by
4 of us retired geezers had lunch on Wednesday, including the guy I've mentioned in the past.
We talked about the fentanyl crisis, and I gave my thoughts which I posted here about the fentanyl hysteria, and this morning he sent me a link from the Epoch Times depicting the cop who supposedly "came into contact" with fentanyl and was "resuscitated" with intranasal naloxone.
I responded the the link from Reason about the hysteria and also the YouTUbe interview with the toxicologist ER doc.
Then...we started talking about Hamlin. He said that commotion cordis is exceptionally rare (which it is) and usually involves in boys younger than Hamlin. Then, he said that it's impossible for this to occur with the type of hit that Hamlin took, which was from a large object. Usually, he said, it's something smaller, like a baseball or elbow.
Looking at the video I posted in the Hamlin thread, it looks like the hit was not by the helmet, but by the shoulder. Perhaps I'm not seeing it correctly, but...
However, we were assured that what probably happened was a sensitization of Hamlin's heart caused by...you guessed it...the COVID vaccine.
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wrote on 15 Feb 2023, 00:29 last edited by
Different surgeon, on her FB page.
https://nutritionfacts.org/video/bovine-leukemia-virus-as-a-cause-of-breast-cancer/
