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  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

    @lufins-dad said in "Unlawful Parading":

    Numerous public officials (including President Uncle Joe) and media outlets have referred to this as the single worst attack on our democracy in our history…

    Not in terms of military attacks, but it's pretty fucking low to try to upend an election. It's not the same as invading a Best Buy on Black Friday.

    But go ahead and think most of the country and the rest of the world is just being silly about this, see where it gets anyone.

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    @aqua-letifer said in "Unlawful Parading":

    @lufins-dad said in "Unlawful Parading":

    Numerous public officials (including President Uncle Joe) and media outlets have referred to this as the single worst attack on our democracy in our history…

    Not in terms of military attacks, but it's pretty fucking low to try to upend an election. It's not the same as invading a Best Buy on Black Friday.

    But go ahead and think most of the country and the rest of the world is just being silly about this, see where it gets anyone.

    As far as I'm aware, and this is borne out with posts from non-Americans here, the left-leaning and self-hating messaging of our pop culture has been convincing to the rest of the world, to whatever extent the rest of the world thinks about America at all. Which is a lot, because we're like the most popular jock in high school and people love to hate us.

    As far as Americans go, sure, they'd mostly agree it was embarrassing and regrettable. Likening it to an aspirational coup is where people begin to differ, and begin to recognize that certain rhetoric is more political, for the purpose of shaming a certain side, making that side less socially palatable. This is the main context in which Jan 6 is brought up anymore. To look askance at people and intimate that they probably shouldn't sniff of the sort of person who's down with that sort of thing.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • Catseye3C Catseye3

      @lufins-dad said in "Unlawful Parading":

      Numerous public officials (including President Uncle Joe) and media outlets have referred to this as the single worst attack on our democracy in our history…

      Oh, please. I give you Joe McCarthy.

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      @catseye3 said in "Unlawful Parading":

      @lufins-dad said in "Unlawful Parading":

      Numerous public officials (including President Uncle Joe) and media outlets have referred to this as the single worst attack on our democracy in our history…

      Oh, please. I give you Joe McCarthy.

      I’m not saying I agree with them, just how it was reported before and after. We’re on what? Our 2nd Congressional Investigation? 3rd?

      The Brad

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      • Catseye3C Catseye3

        It was never "worse for the country than the Civil War or 9/11." Unless the guy was being sarcastic or something.

        Today is August 7. These events happened seven months and a day ago. It's time to stop fixating on it. It was what it was. Unless you honestly believe something constructive can come from the endless rehashing, make your peace with it and move on.

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        @catseye3 said in "Unlawful Parading":

        It was never "worse for the country than the Civil War or 9/11.

        How many Congressional Investigations of the civil war were needed?

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        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

          @lufins-dad said in "Unlawful Parading":

          Numerous public officials (including President Uncle Joe) and media outlets have referred to this as the single worst attack on our democracy in our history…

          Not in terms of military attacks, but it's pretty fucking low to try to upend an election. It's not the same as invading a Best Buy on Black Friday.

          But go ahead and think most of the country and the rest of the world is just being silly about this, see where it gets anyone.

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          @aqua-letifer said in "Unlawful Parading":

          @lufins-dad said in "Unlawful Parading":

          Numerous public officials (including President Uncle Joe) and media outlets have referred to this as the single worst attack on our democracy in our history…

          Not in terms of military attacks, but it's pretty fucking low to try to upend an election. It's not the same as invading a Best Buy on Black Friday.

          But go ahead and think most of the country and the rest of the world is just being silly about this, see where it gets anyone.

          Is it pretty fucking low to upend a stolen election? And while you're at it, explain to me how they were going to do it...Burn it down? No, most if them had respect for the country and even for the Capitol building. They had no respect for many if the people who work in it.

          Armed coup? Remind me again how many firearms were confiscated in the Capitol. None, I do believe. While you're at it, remind me again how many people were shot and killed. Oh, I remember! One. One protestor, an Air Force veteran was gunned down by an anonymous (Michael L. Byrd) officer.

          But if course, she was a magat and deserved to die. Those red caps are sooo triggering.

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          She would have been better off with a different identifying article patch.

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          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            I’ve seen a number of BLM videos here but nearly no Jan 6. Why is that?

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            • L Loki

              I’ve seen a number of BLM videos here but nearly no Jan 6. Why is that?

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              LuFins Dad
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              @loki said in "Unlawful Parading":

              I’ve seen a number of BLM videos here but nearly no Jan 6. Why is that?

              Because we're obviously a bunch of racist old white guys full of our privilege.

              The Brad

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                @aqua-letifer said in "Unlawful Parading":

                @lufins-dad said in "Unlawful Parading":

                Numerous public officials (including President Uncle Joe) and media outlets have referred to this as the single worst attack on our democracy in our history…

                Not in terms of military attacks, but it's pretty fucking low to try to upend an election. It's not the same as invading a Best Buy on Black Friday.

                But go ahead and think most of the country and the rest of the world is just being silly about this, see where it gets anyone.

                Is it pretty fucking low to upend a stolen election? And while you're at it, explain to me how they were going to do it...Burn it down? No, most if them had respect for the country and even for the Capitol building. They had no respect for many if the people who work in it.

                Armed coup? Remind me again how many firearms were confiscated in the Capitol. None, I do believe. While you're at it, remind me again how many people were shot and killed. Oh, I remember! One. One protestor, an Air Force veteran was gunned down by an anonymous (Michael L. Byrd) officer.

                But if course, she was a magat and deserved to die. Those red caps are sooo triggering.

                alt text

                She would have been better off with a different identifying article patch.

                alt text

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                @jolly Why the yellow Star of David?

                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                • L Loki

                  I’ve seen a number of BLM videos here but nearly no Jan 6. Why is that?

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                  @loki said in "Unlawful Parading":

                  I’ve seen a number of BLM videos here but nearly no Jan 6. Why is that?

                  Because when you search youtube for 1/6 you don't see any (hint, try January 6)

                  When you search for blm you see a lot of mostly peaceful people (almost all from extreme left media)

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                  • L Loki

                    I’ve seen a number of BLM videos here but nearly no Jan 6. Why is that?

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                    @loki said in "Unlawful Parading":

                    I’ve seen a number of BLM videos here but nearly no Jan 6. Why is that?

                    Your conclusions as to why that is would be both fascinating and hilarious. Sadly, I sense you will not share them.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      @loki said in "Unlawful Parading":

                      I’ve seen a number of BLM videos here but nearly no Jan 6. Why is that?

                      Your conclusions as to why that is would be both fascinating and hilarious. Sadly, I sense you will not share them.

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                      @horace said in "Unlawful Parading":

                      @loki said in "Unlawful Parading":

                      I’ve seen a number of BLM videos here but nearly no Jan 6. Why is that?

                      Your conclusions as to why that is would be both fascinating and hilarious. Sadly, I sense you will not share them.

                      Sorry to make you so sad Horace. LOL

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        @loki said in "Unlawful Parading":

                        I’ve seen a number of BLM videos here but nearly no Jan 6. Why is that?

                        Because we're obviously a bunch of racist old white guys full of our privilege.

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                        #22

                        @lufins-dad said in "Unlawful Parading":

                        @loki said in "Unlawful Parading":

                        I’ve seen a number of BLM videos here but nearly no Jan 6. Why is that?

                        Because we're obviously a bunch of racist old white guys full of our privilege.

                        I said it was a travesty that BLM got away with rioting a million times here, I also said that Jan 6 should be a new beginning to lock up all anarchists. The best reasonable conclusion you could draw is that I equate BLM protestors to Jan 6 insurrectionists.

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                        • L Loki

                          @lufins-dad said in "Unlawful Parading":

                          @loki said in "Unlawful Parading":

                          I’ve seen a number of BLM videos here but nearly no Jan 6. Why is that?

                          Because we're obviously a bunch of racist old white guys full of our privilege.

                          I said it was a travesty that BLM got away with rioting a million times here, I also said that Jan 6 should be a new beginning to lock up all anarchists. The best reasonable conclusion you could draw is that I equate BLM protestors to Jan 6 insurrectionists.

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                          @loki said in "Unlawful Parading":

                          @lufins-dad said in "Unlawful Parading":

                          @loki said in "Unlawful Parading":

                          I’ve seen a number of BLM videos here but nearly no Jan 6. Why is that?

                          Because we're obviously a bunch of racist old white guys full of our privilege.

                          I said it was a travesty that BLM got away with rioting a million times here, I also said that Jan 6 should be a new beginning to lock up all anarchists. The best reasonable conclusion you could draw is that I equate BLM protestors to Jan 6 insurrectionists.

                          Sure they’re the same if you abstract it enough. But the acceptance within the culture is nowhere near the same. Some of us might find it more compelling to speak out against the antisocial behavior that is more widely accepted and even encouraged.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • Catseye3C Catseye3

                            @jolly Why the yellow Star of David?

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                            @catseye3 said in "Unlawful Parading":

                            @jolly Why the yellow Star of David?

                            That's a patch from the Holocaust Museum. It was worn by a Jew in Nazi Germany (or one of the conquered countries). It helped the Germans to quickly identify the Untermensch (under men). The Untermensch were not as good as other men. They were inferior.

                            Many people such as Jon refer to the people who wore the MAGA hats or supported Trump, as magats (a play on the word "maggot"). The magats are Untermensch. They are stupid, lowly creatures, not as smart as other people. They are inferior.

                            Because magats are inferior, they do not have the same rights under the Constitution as other citizens. In fact, when compared to how illegals are detained on the Southern border, I would firmly state they may not have the same rights as some illegal aliens. Untermensch are not worthy of rights.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              @catseye3 said in "Unlawful Parading":

                              @jolly Why the yellow Star of David?

                              That's a patch from the Holocaust Museum. It was worn by a Jew in Nazi Germany (or one of the conquered countries). It helped the Germans to quickly identify the Untermensch (under men). The Untermensch were not as good as other men. They were inferior.

                              Many people such as Jon refer to the people who wore the MAGA hats or supported Trump, as magats (a play on the word "maggot"). The magats are Untermensch. They are stupid, lowly creatures, not as smart as other people. They are inferior.

                              Because magats are inferior, they do not have the same rights under the Constitution as other citizens. In fact, when compared to how illegals are detained on the Southern border, I would firmly state they may not have the same rights as some illegal aliens. Untermensch are not worthy of rights.

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                              @jolly said in "Unlawful Parading":

                              @catseye3 said in "Unlawful Parading":

                              @jolly Why the yellow Star of David?

                              That's a patch from the Holocaust Museum. It was worn by a Jew in Nazi Germany (or one of the conquered countries). It helped the Germans to quickly identify the Untermensch (under men). The Untermensch were not as good as other men. They were inferior.

                              Many people such as Jon refer to the people who wore the MAGA hats or supported Trump, as magats (a play on the word "maggot"). The magats are Untermensch. They are stupid, lowly creatures, not as smart as other people. They are inferior.

                              Because magats are inferior, they do not have the same rights under the Constitution as other citizens. In fact, when compared to how illegals are detained on the Southern border, I would firmly state they may not gave the same rights as some illegal aliens. Untermensch are not worthy of rights.

                              So, just to clarify here, the Capitol invaders are Jews, and jon—the guy who posts here, the guy from New York—is a Nazi. That's what you're saying?

                              Please love yourself.

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                @catseye3 said in "Unlawful Parading":

                                @jolly Why the yellow Star of David?

                                That's a patch from the Holocaust Museum. It was worn by a Jew in Nazi Germany (or one of the conquered countries). It helped the Germans to quickly identify the Untermensch (under men). The Untermensch were not as good as other men. They were inferior.

                                Many people such as Jon refer to the people who wore the MAGA hats or supported Trump, as magats (a play on the word "maggot"). The magats are Untermensch. They are stupid, lowly creatures, not as smart as other people. They are inferior.

                                Because magats are inferior, they do not have the same rights under the Constitution as other citizens. In fact, when compared to how illegals are detained on the Southern border, I would firmly state they may not have the same rights as some illegal aliens. Untermensch are not worthy of rights.

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                                @jolly Thank you for answering my question.

                                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                  @jolly said in "Unlawful Parading":

                                  @catseye3 said in "Unlawful Parading":

                                  @jolly Why the yellow Star of David?

                                  That's a patch from the Holocaust Museum. It was worn by a Jew in Nazi Germany (or one of the conquered countries). It helped the Germans to quickly identify the Untermensch (under men). The Untermensch were not as good as other men. They were inferior.

                                  Many people such as Jon refer to the people who wore the MAGA hats or supported Trump, as magats (a play on the word "maggot"). The magats are Untermensch. They are stupid, lowly creatures, not as smart as other people. They are inferior.

                                  Because magats are inferior, they do not have the same rights under the Constitution as other citizens. In fact, when compared to how illegals are detained on the Southern border, I would firmly state they may not gave the same rights as some illegal aliens. Untermensch are not worthy of rights.

                                  So, just to clarify here, the Capitol invaders are Jews, and jon—the guy who posts here, the guy from New York—is a Nazi. That's what you're saying?

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                                  @aqua-letifer said in "Unlawful Parading":

                                  @jolly said in "Unlawful Parading":

                                  @catseye3 said in "Unlawful Parading":

                                  @jolly Why the yellow Star of David?

                                  That's a patch from the Holocaust Museum. It was worn by a Jew in Nazi Germany (or one of the conquered countries). It helped the Germans to quickly identify the Untermensch (under men). The Untermensch were not as good as other men. They were inferior.

                                  Many people such as Jon refer to the people who wore the MAGA hats or supported Trump, as magats (a play on the word "maggot"). The magats are Untermensch. They are stupid, lowly creatures, not as smart as other people. They are inferior.

                                  Because magats are inferior, they do not have the same rights under the Constitution as other citizens. In fact, when compared to how illegals are detained on the Southern border, I would firmly state they may not gave the same rights as some illegal aliens. Untermensch are not worthy of rights.

                                  So, just to clarify here, the Capitol invaders are Jews, and jon—the guy who posts here, the guy from New York—is a Nazi. That's what you're saying?

                                  Don't be obtuse.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    @aqua-letifer said in "Unlawful Parading":

                                    @jolly said in "Unlawful Parading":

                                    @catseye3 said in "Unlawful Parading":

                                    @jolly Why the yellow Star of David?

                                    That's a patch from the Holocaust Museum. It was worn by a Jew in Nazi Germany (or one of the conquered countries). It helped the Germans to quickly identify the Untermensch (under men). The Untermensch were not as good as other men. They were inferior.

                                    Many people such as Jon refer to the people who wore the MAGA hats or supported Trump, as magats (a play on the word "maggot"). The magats are Untermensch. They are stupid, lowly creatures, not as smart as other people. They are inferior.

                                    Because magats are inferior, they do not have the same rights under the Constitution as other citizens. In fact, when compared to how illegals are detained on the Southern border, I would firmly state they may not gave the same rights as some illegal aliens. Untermensch are not worthy of rights.

                                    So, just to clarify here, the Capitol invaders are Jews, and jon—the guy who posts here, the guy from New York—is a Nazi. That's what you're saying?

                                    Don't be obtuse.

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                                    @jolly said in "Unlawful Parading":

                                    @aqua-letifer said in "Unlawful Parading":

                                    @jolly said in "Unlawful Parading":

                                    @catseye3 said in "Unlawful Parading":

                                    @jolly Why the yellow Star of David?

                                    That's a patch from the Holocaust Museum. It was worn by a Jew in Nazi Germany (or one of the conquered countries). It helped the Germans to quickly identify the Untermensch (under men). The Untermensch were not as good as other men. They were inferior.

                                    Many people such as Jon refer to the people who wore the MAGA hats or supported Trump, as magats (a play on the word "maggot"). The magats are Untermensch. They are stupid, lowly creatures, not as smart as other people. They are inferior.

                                    Because magats are inferior, they do not have the same rights under the Constitution as other citizens. In fact, when compared to how illegals are detained on the Southern border, I would firmly state they may not gave the same rights as some illegal aliens. Untermensch are not worthy of rights.

                                    So, just to clarify here, the Capitol invaders are Jews, and jon—the guy who posts here, the guy from New York—is a Nazi. That's what you're saying?

                                    Don't be obtuse.

                                    Yet again I'd give you your own advice.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                      @jolly said in "Unlawful Parading":

                                      @aqua-letifer said in "Unlawful Parading":

                                      @jolly said in "Unlawful Parading":

                                      @catseye3 said in "Unlawful Parading":

                                      @jolly Why the yellow Star of David?

                                      That's a patch from the Holocaust Museum. It was worn by a Jew in Nazi Germany (or one of the conquered countries). It helped the Germans to quickly identify the Untermensch (under men). The Untermensch were not as good as other men. They were inferior.

                                      Many people such as Jon refer to the people who wore the MAGA hats or supported Trump, as magats (a play on the word "maggot"). The magats are Untermensch. They are stupid, lowly creatures, not as smart as other people. They are inferior.

                                      Because magats are inferior, they do not have the same rights under the Constitution as other citizens. In fact, when compared to how illegals are detained on the Southern border, I would firmly state they may not gave the same rights as some illegal aliens. Untermensch are not worthy of rights.

                                      So, just to clarify here, the Capitol invaders are Jews, and jon—the guy who posts here, the guy from New York—is a Nazi. That's what you're saying?

                                      Don't be obtuse.

                                      Yet again I'd give you your own advice.

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                                      @aqua-letifer said in "Unlawful Parading":

                                      @jolly said in "Unlawful Parading":

                                      @aqua-letifer said in "Unlawful Parading":

                                      @jolly said in "Unlawful Parading":

                                      @catseye3 said in "Unlawful Parading":

                                      @jolly Why the yellow Star of David?

                                      That's a patch from the Holocaust Museum. It was worn by a Jew in Nazi Germany (or one of the conquered countries). It helped the Germans to quickly identify the Untermensch (under men). The Untermensch were not as good as other men. They were inferior.

                                      Many people such as Jon refer to the people who wore the MAGA hats or supported Trump, as magats (a play on the word "maggot"). The magats are Untermensch. They are stupid, lowly creatures, not as smart as other people. They are inferior.

                                      Because magats are inferior, they do not have the same rights under the Constitution as other citizens. In fact, when compared to how illegals are detained on the Southern border, I would firmly state they may not gave the same rights as some illegal aliens. Untermensch are not worthy of rights.

                                      So, just to clarify here, the Capitol invaders are Jews, and jon—the guy who posts here, the guy from New York—is a Nazi. That's what you're saying?

                                      Don't be obtuse.

                                      Yet again I'd give you your own advice.

                                      You're not an idiot, so I suppose you're playing silly booger on purpose. Well, then go back and read what I wrote again. It's very succinct and covers an obvious point...Even for people with a total hatred of some other people, namely the magats named therein.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        How about our resident Insurrection Buffs?

                                        Loki, Jon, Aqua...How do you feel about unlawful parading charges? And what are your thoughts on trying to stick to those charges vs. dropping charges or pleading down for other people who tried to burn down a Federal courthouse?

                                        Lastly, do you think that it is unreasonable to jail people in solitary confinement for seven months, denying them bail and due process, for misdemeanor charges?

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                                        @jolly

                                        I've been frustrated about the light handedness but then I heard Ken White (popehat) talk about the reasoning. The DOJ has many hundreds of these assclowns to deal with and simply can't take them all to trial. So each of them are getting much lower charges and sentence offers than they would if there were, say, 10 of them. That makes perfect sense, but it's frustrating as hell. I do worry about the lack of deterrent. For many of these guys their little misdemeanor and fine will be a badge of honor.

                                        Regarding the heavy handedness of the pretrial bit, I'm not too worried about it because these guys aren't getting these light charges because that's what they deserve, they're getting them because there were so fucking many of them.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                          That's the DOJ's problem. They're arresting people for walking through the building, when if they need to be charging for more serious crimes, they should be concentrating on those.

                                          Do your job.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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