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The New Coffee Room

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  • 89th8 Offline
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    89th
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    Hope it doesn’t offend anyone (if anyone?) that has decided not to come give this new forum a test flight.

    TONCR - The Old New Coffee Room

    Btw...can anyone give me a brief history of TNCR?

    From what I kinda know it includes:

    • IRC?
    • Piano World (I joined in 2005)
    • Zetaboard
    • Tapatalk (how did that happen? I was away but it seemed to keep all content)
    • NodeBB

    What about sister forums that have split off over the years?

    CopperC taiwan_girlT LarryL 3 Replies Last reply
    • 89th8 89th

      Hope it doesn’t offend anyone (if anyone?) that has decided not to come give this new forum a test flight.

      TONCR - The Old New Coffee Room

      Btw...can anyone give me a brief history of TNCR?

      From what I kinda know it includes:

      • IRC?
      • Piano World (I joined in 2005)
      • Zetaboard
      • Tapatalk (how did that happen? I was away but it seemed to keep all content)
      • NodeBB

      What about sister forums that have split off over the years?

      CopperC Offline
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      Copper
      wrote on last edited by Copper
      #2

      @89th said in [

      Btw...can anyone give me a brief history of TNCR?

      In the beginning

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      • 89th8 89th

        Hope it doesn’t offend anyone (if anyone?) that has decided not to come give this new forum a test flight.

        TONCR - The Old New Coffee Room

        Btw...can anyone give me a brief history of TNCR?

        From what I kinda know it includes:

        • IRC?
        • Piano World (I joined in 2005)
        • Zetaboard
        • Tapatalk (how did that happen? I was away but it seemed to keep all content)
        • NodeBB

        What about sister forums that have split off over the years?

        taiwan_girlT Offline
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        taiwan_girl
        wrote on last edited by taiwan_girl
        #3

        @89th said in I pinned a thread in TONCR:

        Hope it doesn’t offend anyone (if anyone?) that has decided not to come give this new forum a test flight.

        TONCR - The Old New Coffee Room

        Btw...can anyone give me a brief history of TNCR?

        From what I kinda know it includes:

        • IRC?
        • Piano World (I joined in 2005)
        • Zetaboard
        • Tapatalk (how did that happen? I was away but it seemed to keep all content)
        • NodeBB

        What about sister forums that have split off over the years?

        My understanding and remembering:

        After Piano World shut down the discussion room , that was when the New Coffee Room started. JGoo set it up at first, but left fairly quickly.. It was started on Zetaboard, which was eventually bought out by Tap Talk.

        At the same time the New Coffee Room started, a second branch was started called "Well Tempered Forum". It is still in existence, and is fairly active, but I dont think quite as active as this one.

        At some later point, Larry set up a piano discussion board also on Zetaboards (and now TapTalk). A few of the old Piano world people go to the forum, but it is not very active.

        Mainly, the New Coffee Room had both side of the politics, but mostly people more towards the middle.

        The Well Temper Forum is a group who was more "left side", and wanted to minimize friction with the other side.
        The forum Larry set up is more "right" side and wanted to minimize friction with teh other side.

        Any additions I am missing?

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        • 89th8 Offline
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          89th
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          That’s helpful, thanks @taiwan_girl

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          • 89th8 89th

            Hope it doesn’t offend anyone (if anyone?) that has decided not to come give this new forum a test flight.

            TONCR - The Old New Coffee Room

            Btw...can anyone give me a brief history of TNCR?

            From what I kinda know it includes:

            • IRC?
            • Piano World (I joined in 2005)
            • Zetaboard
            • Tapatalk (how did that happen? I was away but it seemed to keep all content)
            • NodeBB

            What about sister forums that have split off over the years?

            LarryL Offline
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            Larry
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            @89th I'll give you the complete history, starting at the very beginning.

            1992(+/-) Usenet. Before such a thing as a forum existed, there was Usenet.

            1993 or 94: I created a website for my piano business, A new feature available was a message board. Thinking it would be a good selling point for potential customers to talk to each other, I set it up. I was averaging maybe 6 or 8 people posting a day, but none stayed once they'd bought a piano. A couple of years later I got an email from a guy who said he had followed my posts on Usenet and now on my message board, and invited me to join a message board at a place called Pianoworld, saying they needed my outspoken way, that it only had 7 or 8 members and it was dying. I visited, posted a few times, and noticed that unlike my board where people came and went, PW had a small core of "regulars". After a few months, I decided to abandon my message board with its transient style, and spend my time at PW with its small group of regulars.

            Over the next several years the PW membership grew, and the non piano related topics grew so popular that the site owner decided to create a separate forum where people could discuss anything. It grew to be the most popular forum there, and politics was a favorite topic. Liberals expressed their opinion, conservatives expressed their opinion, everyone generally got along.

            Then one day a lawyer woman from Maine discovered the room. This woman had never actually heard anything from conservatives before, thought the whole world agreed with her, and deciding that she would make it her mission to rid the place of these space aliens called conservatives, publicly announced herself as being their to, and I quote.. "kick some conservative ass".

            She went over like a lead balloon, and quickly established a reputation as mentally ill. Before long 2 more women similarly afflicted joined up and the 3 of them being unable to root out the crazy conservatives began plotting behind the scenes to either take the place over by conning the gullible little man who owned the place, or if that failed, by burning it to the ground. They succeeded in burning it to the ground.

            Faced with PW closing down the OCR, people began wondering where to go. I dusted off my old website and it's message board and offered it, but at the same time the TNCR forum was created, and more people began coming to TNCR than to mine. Shortly after that there was a presidential election. The 3 wingnuts who burned the OCR down were just certain there was no way Bush would win, but when he won the election they got their panties in such a wad that they split off from TNCR to get away from the damned conservatives. They created a secret forum that only those deemed worthy were allowed access to.

            After that, my forum continues with a small group of regulars, TNCR continues to be the most popular, and the whining bitches on the Left were eventually shamed into bringing their forum out of hiding, but making about half of their members moderators to make sure no one expresses an opinion they don't like.

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            • LarryL Offline
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              Larry
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              #6

              TG, my forum wasn't created last, it was actually created before any of the others.

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              • 89th8 Offline
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                89th
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                Larry thanks for the background, drama and all! 😂

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                • MikM Offline
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                  #8

                  Forgot the change from Zetaboards to Invision (or was it the other way around?)

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
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                    #9

                    Larry is pretty close. The secret forum was actually created while we were still at PW. WTF was created as a safe space for people who wanted a less rough and tumble discussion style, but it didn't take those guys long to evolve into a very Left-leaning board.

                    I remember many of the people on the old, original PianoWorld board. Larry, Penny, Jodi, Dave Burton, etc.

                    I think Frank made a major mistake, when he started listening to people in person, whispering honeyed nothing's in his ear. That, and the behind-the-scenes email campaign. His site could sometimes be raucous, but the info back then is better than it is today, maybe because of some of the conflict. As for the OCR, I never could understand why he shut that down...It helped drive his numbers. A lot.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                      taiwan_girl
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                      #10

                      Larry, would you mind telling the people on your forum board about this new one? Maybe some will want to try this one out. 🙂

                      Also, I think there are some here who go to Well Temper Forum. I think you should have a thread there to let people know about this new forum board.

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                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                        Larry, would you mind telling the people on your forum board about this new one? Maybe some will want to try this one out. 🙂

                        Also, I think there are some here who go to Well Temper Forum. I think you should have a thread there to let people know about this new forum board.

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                        Copper
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #11

                        @taiwan_girl said in I pinned a thread in TONCR:

                        Also, I think there are some here who go to Well Temper Forum. I think you should have a thread there to let people know about this new forum board.

                        Ax did it

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                        • CopperC Copper

                          @taiwan_girl said in I pinned a thread in TONCR:

                          Also, I think there are some here who go to Well Temper Forum. I think you should have a thread there to let people know about this new forum board.

                          Ax did it

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                          taiwan_girl
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                          @Copper said in I pinned a thread in TONCR:

                          @taiwan_girl said in I pinned a thread in TONCR:

                          Also, I think there are some here who go to Well Temper Forum. I think you should have a thread there to let people know about this new forum board.

                          Ax did it

                          i think we must have found the good middle spot. I did look at the other forums.

                          Not a 100% quote, but the response from forum A was that we were too far to one side.

                          The response from forum B was that we were too far to the other side.

                          555555

                          So, I think we must be pretty much in the middle and have good back and forth discussions!!

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                            mark
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                            It's kind of sad that we all can't be together in one place.

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                            • markM mark

                              It's kind of sad that we all can't be together in one place.

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                              taiwan_girl
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                              @mark said in I pinned a thread in TONCR:

                              It's kind of sad that we all can't be together in one place.

                              I agree!!!!!!!!!!

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                              • markM mark

                                It's kind of sad that we all can't be together in one place.

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                                Copper
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                                #15

                                @mark said in I pinned a thread in TONCR:

                                It's kind of sad that we all can't be together in one place.

                                It was even sadder when we were

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                                  mark
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                                  #16

                                  maybe for you. you do not speak for all of us.

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                                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                    @mark said in I pinned a thread in TONCR:

                                    It's kind of sad that we all can't be together in one place.

                                    I agree!!!!!!!!!!

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                                    Klaus
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                                    #17

                                    @taiwan_girl said in I pinned a thread in TONCR:

                                    @mark said in I pinned a thread in TONCR:

                                    It's kind of sad that we all can't be together in one place.

                                    I agree!!!!!!!!!!

                                    +1.

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                                      jodi
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                                      #18

                                      I am laughing. After piano world - I’d call this The place where more of the right leaning folks ended up, and the other where more of the left leaning folks ended up and there are several folks who post both places. And some people who NEVER forget old enemies! 😆

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                                        Klaus
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                                        Well, this used to be the place that offered a bigger variety of opinions, which is what drew me here instead of the other place. I'm not here to convince anyone of anything but rather to find flaws in my own reasoning, and for that I need all the arguments from all perspectives. This place has sadly become a little more uniform over the years after a couple of posters left. But it's still interesting most of the time, and I like the unconstrained nature of the discussions.

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                                          taiwan_girl
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                                          I agree with Klaus. It is good to have different opinions and I oftentimes learn from those different opinions.

                                          I would not want to be where there is a thread that says "President Trump is bad", and the replies are +1, +2, +3, etc.

                                          I would not want to be where there is a thread that says "President Trump is good" and the replies are +1, +2, +3, etc.

                                          That would get boring. LOL

                                          I was once in a seminar on negotiations/relations with different countries and cultures. One of the exercise was to list a topic we are passionate about and list some bullet point to help our point of view.

                                          When we were finished, the instructor took mine and said, "Okay, Jennifer, now I want you to tell me why all the points you listed are wrong!! What is your argument against these??"

                                          It really helped me to look at other points of view and understand where they received their point of view.

                                          I do not agree all the time with everyone on this forum board, but I like the different opinions and ideas that are expressed.

                                          It would be fantastic is some of the forum posters from the other boards (or even new posters) were to come back to here. Variety is good!!!!

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