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  • C Copper
    11 Jul 2021, 14:48

    I have to choose between Colbert and de Grasse Tyson

    This is awful

    I can't stand it

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    George K
    wrote on 11 Jul 2021, 14:48 last edited by
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    @copper

    Link to video

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Jolly
      wrote on 11 Jul 2021, 14:49 last edited by
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      Dale Brown was writing about plane-launched near-Earth satellites in the 1980's...

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • G George K
        11 Jul 2021, 14:43

        I really don't understand the mission of Virgin Galactic, or for that matter Bert Rutan's vision using a craft like this.

        Is it purely for "space" tourism, or is there something else they want to do?

        I recently posted a story about another company that's launching small satellites from a 747. That seems an economical approach.

        But afaik, Virgin has no such plans.

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        Copper
        wrote on 11 Jul 2021, 14:50 last edited by
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        @george-k said in Billionaires in Space:

        purely for "space" tourism

        Yes, I think so

        When they announced this it was cool

        Now, he has a second string space ship company

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          George K
          wrote on 11 Jul 2021, 15:10 last edited by George K 7 Nov 2021, 20:27
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          The talking heads are making a big deal about "50K feet is the definition of 'space' by the FAA and NASA."

          Meh.

          $250K for 3 minutes of weightlessness and some nice views.

          Meh, again.

          Edit to correct: not 50K feet, but 50 miles.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Copper
            wrote on 11 Jul 2021, 15:20 last edited by
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            The air needed to fly an airplane runs out around 100K feet.

            50 miles = about 250K feet

            Calling space 50 statute miles is OK with me. That was the limit for a long time.

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              George K
              wrote on 11 Jul 2021, 15:22 last edited by
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              The paint on the back of the craft:

              alt text

              The back of The Razorback in The Expanse:

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              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • C Copper
                11 Jul 2021, 15:20

                The air needed to fly an airplane runs out around 100K feet.

                50 miles = about 250K feet

                Calling space 50 statute miles is OK with me. That was the limit for a long time.

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                George K
                wrote on 11 Jul 2021, 15:27 last edited by
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                @copper said in Billionaires in Space:

                50 miles = about 250K feet

                Duh, yeah. What was I thinking?

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on 11 Jul 2021, 18:04 last edited by Doctor Phibes 7 Nov 2021, 18:06
                  #15

                  You're all pissed off because the first d-bag in space isn't an American? 😀

                  Once again, the British have excelled at being really freaking annoying! It's what we do, baby.

                  I was only joking

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                    Copper
                    wrote on 11 Jul 2021, 23:25 last edited by
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                    It was driven by a Scot.

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                    • C Copper
                      11 Jul 2021, 23:25

                      It was driven by a Scot.

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on 12 Jul 2021, 02:23 last edited by
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                      @copper said in Billionaires in Space:

                      It was driven by a Scot.

                      So, not British, then?

                      I was only joking

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                        Copper
                        wrote on 12 Jul 2021, 16:28 last edited by
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                        You might have to ask him.

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                          Loki
                          wrote on 12 Jul 2021, 17:10 last edited by
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                          In history those with the the wherewithal and body type made names for themselves in their quest for immortality exploring the Amazon, the Artic, Mount Everest, the island of King Kong (lol). I’m sure others have come up with the better terms for the type person interested in conquering parts of earth that were available for fame and too scary for the average person.

                          Even the notion of being in Space isn’t new:

                          Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Its five-year mission: to explore strange new worlds. To seek out new life and new civilizations. To boldly go where no man has gone before!

                          Seems like this is more of the same.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 12 Jul 2021, 17:36 last edited by
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                            https://www.change.org/p/the-proletariat-do-not-allow-jeff-bezos-to-return-to-earth

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              12 Jul 2021, 17:10

                              In history those with the the wherewithal and body type made names for themselves in their quest for immortality exploring the Amazon, the Artic, Mount Everest, the island of King Kong (lol). I’m sure others have come up with the better terms for the type person interested in conquering parts of earth that were available for fame and too scary for the average person.

                              Even the notion of being in Space isn’t new:

                              Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Its five-year mission: to explore strange new worlds. To seek out new life and new civilizations. To boldly go where no man has gone before!

                              Seems like this is more of the same.

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                              Horace
                              wrote on 12 Jul 2021, 19:27 last edited by
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                              @loki said in Billionaires in Space:

                              In history those with the the wherewithal and body type made names for themselves in their quest for immortality exploring the Amazon, the Artic, Mount Everest, the island of King Kong (lol). I’m sure others have come up with the better terms for the type person interested in conquering parts of earth that were available for fame and too scary for the average person.

                              These billionaires can each claim to have done spectacular things with their lives, but as far as them going to space goes, that is more along the lines of upper middle class douche bags paying $50k to have Sherpas pull them up Everest.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • G George K
                                12 Jul 2021, 17:36

                                https://www.change.org/p/the-proletariat-do-not-allow-jeff-bezos-to-return-to-earth

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                                Horace
                                wrote on 12 Jul 2021, 19:27 last edited by
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                                @george-k said in Billionaires in Space:

                                https://www.change.org/p/the-proletariat-do-not-allow-jeff-bezos-to-return-to-earth

                                I wonder how much actuarial risk Bezos' space flight imposes on AMZN stock.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • H Horace
                                  12 Jul 2021, 19:27

                                  @loki said in Billionaires in Space:

                                  In history those with the the wherewithal and body type made names for themselves in their quest for immortality exploring the Amazon, the Artic, Mount Everest, the island of King Kong (lol). I’m sure others have come up with the better terms for the type person interested in conquering parts of earth that were available for fame and too scary for the average person.

                                  These billionaires can each claim to have done spectacular things with their lives, but as far as them going to space goes, that is more along the lines of upper middle class douche bags paying $50k to have Sherpas pull them up Everest.

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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on 12 Jul 2021, 19:31 last edited by
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                                  @horace said in Billionaires in Space:

                                  @loki said in Billionaires in Space:

                                  In history those with the the wherewithal and body type made names for themselves in their quest for immortality exploring the Amazon, the Artic, Mount Everest, the island of King Kong (lol). I’m sure others have come up with the better terms for the type person interested in conquering parts of earth that were available for fame and too scary for the average person.

                                  These billionaires can each claim to have done spectacular things with their lives, but as far as them going to space goes, that is more along the lines of upper middle class douche bags paying $50k to have Sherpas pull them up Everest.

                                  I'd say that Branson's ballooning exploits were considerably more impressive (and dangerous) than his space visit.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • H Horace
                                    12 Jul 2021, 19:27

                                    @george-k said in Billionaires in Space:

                                    https://www.change.org/p/the-proletariat-do-not-allow-jeff-bezos-to-return-to-earth

                                    I wonder how much actuarial risk Bezos' space flight imposes on AMZN stock.

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                                    Aqua Letifer
                                    wrote on 12 Jul 2021, 19:46 last edited by
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                                    @horace said in Billionaires in Space:

                                    @george-k said in Billionaires in Space:

                                    https://www.change.org/p/the-proletariat-do-not-allow-jeff-bezos-to-return-to-earth

                                    I wonder how much actuarial risk Bezos' space flight imposes on AMZN stock.

                                    I was just thinking that the day of the flight might be a good time to buy stock.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                      Loki
                                      wrote on 12 Jul 2021, 20:24 last edited by
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                                      The liberals are going nuts about how this money and fossil fuel could be wasted in times like this. I just about threw up.

                                      Guess what, a massive amount of innovation is going on and space used to be awesome as long as NASA was running it.

                                      But most importantly the species has an imperative to survive and getting off this planet in time is a prerequisite.

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on 12 Jul 2021, 20:27 last edited by
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                                        Humans from earth will never populate the universe. We'll just become extinct on Earth.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • H Horace
                                          12 Jul 2021, 20:27

                                          Humans from earth will never populate the universe. We'll just become extinct on Earth.

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                                          Loki
                                          wrote on 12 Jul 2021, 20:39 last edited by
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                                          @horace said in Billionaires in Space:

                                          Humans from earth will never populate the universe. We'll just become extinct on Earth.

                                          Well there’s your book. The ultimate decision by a colony on Mars or the Moon that say fuck it. Maybe a Sam Harris-Jordan Peterson type debate on Mars.

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