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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #13

    The paint on the back of the craft:

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    The back of The Razorback in The Expanse:

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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • CopperC Copper

      The air needed to fly an airplane runs out around 100K feet.

      50 miles = about 250K feet

      Calling space 50 statute miles is OK with me. That was the limit for a long time.

      George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #14

      @copper said in Billionaires in Space:

      50 miles = about 250K feet

      Duh, yeah. What was I thinking?

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • Doctor PhibesD Online
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        Doctor Phibes
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        #15

        You're all pissed off because the first d-bag in space isn't an American? 😀

        Once again, the British have excelled at being really freaking annoying! It's what we do, baby.

        I was only joking

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        • CopperC Offline
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          Copper
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          #16

          It was driven by a Scot.

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          • CopperC Copper

            It was driven by a Scot.

            Doctor PhibesD Online
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            Doctor Phibes
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            #17

            @copper said in Billionaires in Space:

            It was driven by a Scot.

            So, not British, then?

            I was only joking

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            • CopperC Offline
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              Copper
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              #18

              You might have to ask him.

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              • L Offline
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                Loki
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                #19

                In history those with the the wherewithal and body type made names for themselves in their quest for immortality exploring the Amazon, the Artic, Mount Everest, the island of King Kong (lol). I’m sure others have come up with the better terms for the type person interested in conquering parts of earth that were available for fame and too scary for the average person.

                Even the notion of being in Space isn’t new:

                Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Its five-year mission: to explore strange new worlds. To seek out new life and new civilizations. To boldly go where no man has gone before!

                Seems like this is more of the same.

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  #20

                  https://www.change.org/p/the-proletariat-do-not-allow-jeff-bezos-to-return-to-earth

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • L Loki

                    In history those with the the wherewithal and body type made names for themselves in their quest for immortality exploring the Amazon, the Artic, Mount Everest, the island of King Kong (lol). I’m sure others have come up with the better terms for the type person interested in conquering parts of earth that were available for fame and too scary for the average person.

                    Even the notion of being in Space isn’t new:

                    Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Its five-year mission: to explore strange new worlds. To seek out new life and new civilizations. To boldly go where no man has gone before!

                    Seems like this is more of the same.

                    HoraceH Offline
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                    Horace
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #21

                    @loki said in Billionaires in Space:

                    In history those with the the wherewithal and body type made names for themselves in their quest for immortality exploring the Amazon, the Artic, Mount Everest, the island of King Kong (lol). I’m sure others have come up with the better terms for the type person interested in conquering parts of earth that were available for fame and too scary for the average person.

                    These billionaires can each claim to have done spectacular things with their lives, but as far as them going to space goes, that is more along the lines of upper middle class douche bags paying $50k to have Sherpas pull them up Everest.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • George KG George K

                      https://www.change.org/p/the-proletariat-do-not-allow-jeff-bezos-to-return-to-earth

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                      @george-k said in Billionaires in Space:

                      https://www.change.org/p/the-proletariat-do-not-allow-jeff-bezos-to-return-to-earth

                      I wonder how much actuarial risk Bezos' space flight imposes on AMZN stock.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        @loki said in Billionaires in Space:

                        In history those with the the wherewithal and body type made names for themselves in their quest for immortality exploring the Amazon, the Artic, Mount Everest, the island of King Kong (lol). I’m sure others have come up with the better terms for the type person interested in conquering parts of earth that were available for fame and too scary for the average person.

                        These billionaires can each claim to have done spectacular things with their lives, but as far as them going to space goes, that is more along the lines of upper middle class douche bags paying $50k to have Sherpas pull them up Everest.

                        Doctor PhibesD Online
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                        Doctor Phibes
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                        #23

                        @horace said in Billionaires in Space:

                        @loki said in Billionaires in Space:

                        In history those with the the wherewithal and body type made names for themselves in their quest for immortality exploring the Amazon, the Artic, Mount Everest, the island of King Kong (lol). I’m sure others have come up with the better terms for the type person interested in conquering parts of earth that were available for fame and too scary for the average person.

                        These billionaires can each claim to have done spectacular things with their lives, but as far as them going to space goes, that is more along the lines of upper middle class douche bags paying $50k to have Sherpas pull them up Everest.

                        I'd say that Branson's ballooning exploits were considerably more impressive (and dangerous) than his space visit.

                        I was only joking

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                        • HoraceH Horace

                          @george-k said in Billionaires in Space:

                          https://www.change.org/p/the-proletariat-do-not-allow-jeff-bezos-to-return-to-earth

                          I wonder how much actuarial risk Bezos' space flight imposes on AMZN stock.

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                          Aqua Letifer
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                          @horace said in Billionaires in Space:

                          @george-k said in Billionaires in Space:

                          https://www.change.org/p/the-proletariat-do-not-allow-jeff-bezos-to-return-to-earth

                          I wonder how much actuarial risk Bezos' space flight imposes on AMZN stock.

                          I was just thinking that the day of the flight might be a good time to buy stock.

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • L Offline
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                            Loki
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                            The liberals are going nuts about how this money and fossil fuel could be wasted in times like this. I just about threw up.

                            Guess what, a massive amount of innovation is going on and space used to be awesome as long as NASA was running it.

                            But most importantly the species has an imperative to survive and getting off this planet in time is a prerequisite.

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                            • HoraceH Offline
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                              Horace
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                              Humans from earth will never populate the universe. We'll just become extinct on Earth.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • HoraceH Horace

                                Humans from earth will never populate the universe. We'll just become extinct on Earth.

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                                Loki
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                                #27

                                @horace said in Billionaires in Space:

                                Humans from earth will never populate the universe. We'll just become extinct on Earth.

                                Well there’s your book. The ultimate decision by a colony on Mars or the Moon that say fuck it. Maybe a Sam Harris-Jordan Peterson type debate on Mars.

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                                • George KG Offline
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                                  George K
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                                  Elon wants to be a rocket man.

                                  https://www.space.com/elon-musk-will-fly-on-virgin-galactic

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • CopperC Offline
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                                    Copper
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                                    #29

                                    Conspiracy

                                    ![alt text](998fd79f-a71d-464f-945b-e6c0183766c1-image.png image url)

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                                    • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                                      Doctor Phibes
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                                      What's a cotton flight suite?

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                        What's a cotton flight suite?

                                        CopperC Offline
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                                        Copper
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #31

                                        @doctor-phibes said in Billionaires in Space:

                                        What's a cotton flight suite?

                                        He's your friend, ask him.

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                                        • George KG Offline
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                                          George K
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                                          https://www.space.com/blue-origin-jeff-bezos-launch-follows-virgin-galactic-richard-branson-flight

                                          But it's hard to imagine that Blue Origin and its chief weren't at least a little miffed that their thunder was stolen.

                                          For example, Blue Origin recently reminded folks that New Shepard gets above the Kármán line, the 62-mile-high (100 kilometers) mark that is often regarded as the boundary of space — and that VSS Unity doesn't quite get there.

                                          "From the beginning, New Shepard was designed to fly above the Kármán line so none of our astronauts have an asterisk next to their name. For 96% of the world’s population, space begins 100 km up at the internationally recognized Kármán line," Blue Origin wrote via Twitter on Friday (July 9).

                                          "Only 4% of the world recognizes a lower limit of 80 km or 50 miles as the beginning of space. New Shepard flies above both boundaries. One of the many benefits of flying with Blue Origin," the company added in another tweet.

                                          Kármán line

                                          The Kármán line (or von Karman line) is an attempt to define a boundary between Earth's atmosphere and outer space set conceptually at the altitude at which the atmosphere becomes too thin to support aeronautical flight.[2][3] Any vehicle above this altitude moving at a suborbital velocity would not be able to use aerodynamic lift to support itself.[4]:84

                                          While this conceptual definition enjoys widespread consensus, the term "Kármán line" is also commonly applied to various fixed approximations of the concept for which there are competing views. The Fédération Aéronautique Internationale (FAI), an international record-keeping body for aeronautics, defines the Kármán line as the altitude of 100 kilometres (54 nautical miles; 62 miles; 330,000 feet) above Earth's mean sea level. Not all organizations recognize this definition. The U.S. Air Force define the boundary as 50 miles (80 km) above sea level.[5][6]

                                          International law does not define the edge of space, or the limit of national airspace.[5][7] The boundary between the atmosphere and space is nonetheless important for legal and regulatory purposes: aircraft and spacecraft fall under different jurisdictions and are subject to different treaties.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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