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  • George KG George K

    I really don't understand the mission of Virgin Galactic, or for that matter Bert Rutan's vision using a craft like this.

    Is it purely for "space" tourism, or is there something else they want to do?

    I recently posted a story about another company that's launching small satellites from a 747. That seems an economical approach.

    But afaik, Virgin has no such plans.

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    Copper
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    #10

    @george-k said in Billionaires in Space:

    purely for "space" tourism

    Yes, I think so

    When they announced this it was cool

    Now, he has a second string space ship company

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      George K
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      #11

      The talking heads are making a big deal about "50K feet is the definition of 'space' by the FAA and NASA."

      Meh.

      $250K for 3 minutes of weightlessness and some nice views.

      Meh, again.

      Edit to correct: not 50K feet, but 50 miles.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        The air needed to fly an airplane runs out around 100K feet.

        50 miles = about 250K feet

        Calling space 50 statute miles is OK with me. That was the limit for a long time.

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          George K
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          The paint on the back of the craft:

          alt text

          The back of The Razorback in The Expanse:

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          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • CopperC Copper

            The air needed to fly an airplane runs out around 100K feet.

            50 miles = about 250K feet

            Calling space 50 statute miles is OK with me. That was the limit for a long time.

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            @copper said in Billionaires in Space:

            50 miles = about 250K feet

            Duh, yeah. What was I thinking?

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Doctor Phibes
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              #15

              You're all pissed off because the first d-bag in space isn't an American? 😀

              Once again, the British have excelled at being really freaking annoying! It's what we do, baby.

              I was only joking

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                It was driven by a Scot.

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                • CopperC Copper

                  It was driven by a Scot.

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                  @copper said in Billionaires in Space:

                  It was driven by a Scot.

                  So, not British, then?

                  I was only joking

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                  • CopperC Offline
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                    Copper
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                    You might have to ask him.

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                    • L Offline
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                      Loki
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                      In history those with the the wherewithal and body type made names for themselves in their quest for immortality exploring the Amazon, the Artic, Mount Everest, the island of King Kong (lol). I’m sure others have come up with the better terms for the type person interested in conquering parts of earth that were available for fame and too scary for the average person.

                      Even the notion of being in Space isn’t new:

                      Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Its five-year mission: to explore strange new worlds. To seek out new life and new civilizations. To boldly go where no man has gone before!

                      Seems like this is more of the same.

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                        George K
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                        https://www.change.org/p/the-proletariat-do-not-allow-jeff-bezos-to-return-to-earth

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • L Loki

                          In history those with the the wherewithal and body type made names for themselves in their quest for immortality exploring the Amazon, the Artic, Mount Everest, the island of King Kong (lol). I’m sure others have come up with the better terms for the type person interested in conquering parts of earth that were available for fame and too scary for the average person.

                          Even the notion of being in Space isn’t new:

                          Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Its five-year mission: to explore strange new worlds. To seek out new life and new civilizations. To boldly go where no man has gone before!

                          Seems like this is more of the same.

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                          @loki said in Billionaires in Space:

                          In history those with the the wherewithal and body type made names for themselves in their quest for immortality exploring the Amazon, the Artic, Mount Everest, the island of King Kong (lol). I’m sure others have come up with the better terms for the type person interested in conquering parts of earth that were available for fame and too scary for the average person.

                          These billionaires can each claim to have done spectacular things with their lives, but as far as them going to space goes, that is more along the lines of upper middle class douche bags paying $50k to have Sherpas pull them up Everest.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            https://www.change.org/p/the-proletariat-do-not-allow-jeff-bezos-to-return-to-earth

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                            @george-k said in Billionaires in Space:

                            https://www.change.org/p/the-proletariat-do-not-allow-jeff-bezos-to-return-to-earth

                            I wonder how much actuarial risk Bezos' space flight imposes on AMZN stock.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              @loki said in Billionaires in Space:

                              In history those with the the wherewithal and body type made names for themselves in their quest for immortality exploring the Amazon, the Artic, Mount Everest, the island of King Kong (lol). I’m sure others have come up with the better terms for the type person interested in conquering parts of earth that were available for fame and too scary for the average person.

                              These billionaires can each claim to have done spectacular things with their lives, but as far as them going to space goes, that is more along the lines of upper middle class douche bags paying $50k to have Sherpas pull them up Everest.

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                              @horace said in Billionaires in Space:

                              @loki said in Billionaires in Space:

                              In history those with the the wherewithal and body type made names for themselves in their quest for immortality exploring the Amazon, the Artic, Mount Everest, the island of King Kong (lol). I’m sure others have come up with the better terms for the type person interested in conquering parts of earth that were available for fame and too scary for the average person.

                              These billionaires can each claim to have done spectacular things with their lives, but as far as them going to space goes, that is more along the lines of upper middle class douche bags paying $50k to have Sherpas pull them up Everest.

                              I'd say that Branson's ballooning exploits were considerably more impressive (and dangerous) than his space visit.

                              I was only joking

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                              • HoraceH Horace

                                @george-k said in Billionaires in Space:

                                https://www.change.org/p/the-proletariat-do-not-allow-jeff-bezos-to-return-to-earth

                                I wonder how much actuarial risk Bezos' space flight imposes on AMZN stock.

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                                @horace said in Billionaires in Space:

                                @george-k said in Billionaires in Space:

                                https://www.change.org/p/the-proletariat-do-not-allow-jeff-bezos-to-return-to-earth

                                I wonder how much actuarial risk Bezos' space flight imposes on AMZN stock.

                                I was just thinking that the day of the flight might be a good time to buy stock.

                                Please love yourself.

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                                  Loki
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                                  The liberals are going nuts about how this money and fossil fuel could be wasted in times like this. I just about threw up.

                                  Guess what, a massive amount of innovation is going on and space used to be awesome as long as NASA was running it.

                                  But most importantly the species has an imperative to survive and getting off this planet in time is a prerequisite.

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                                    Humans from earth will never populate the universe. We'll just become extinct on Earth.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • HoraceH Horace

                                      Humans from earth will never populate the universe. We'll just become extinct on Earth.

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                                      Loki
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                                      @horace said in Billionaires in Space:

                                      Humans from earth will never populate the universe. We'll just become extinct on Earth.

                                      Well there’s your book. The ultimate decision by a colony on Mars or the Moon that say fuck it. Maybe a Sam Harris-Jordan Peterson type debate on Mars.

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                                        George K
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                                        Elon wants to be a rocket man.

                                        https://www.space.com/elon-musk-will-fly-on-virgin-galactic

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          Conspiracy

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