Shoplifting is OK
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The high status leftist political culture of San Francisco is the biggest cultural joke in the country.
wrote on 6 Jul 2021, 23:17 last edited byIt is sad.
I'm glad I have spent some time in that area because I probably never will again.
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wrote on 6 Jul 2021, 23:20 last edited by
Long ago, it was understood that this kind of thing undermines a civilized society. People like order whether it is communist China or a suburb in Maryland. Reasoned arguments against such behavior don't typically work as effectively as a more direct intervention and adverse consequences.
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Long ago, it was understood that this kind of thing undermines a civilized society. People like order whether it is communist China or a suburb in Maryland. Reasoned arguments against such behavior don't typically work as effectively as a more direct intervention and adverse consequences.
wrote on 6 Jul 2021, 23:26 last edited by@kluurs said in Shoplifting is OK:
People like order whether it is communist China or a suburb in Maryland.
This.
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wrote on 7 Jul 2021, 00:17 last edited by
And the person taking the video just happened to be running a video recording of the entrance of a store?
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wrote on 7 Jul 2021, 04:20 last edited by
Nice that they used the curbside pickup spaces.
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wrote on 7 Jul 2021, 10:55 last edited by
Think I read where 40% of the city's citizens want to leave...
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wrote on 7 Jul 2021, 11:20 last edited by
@jolly said in Shoplifting is OK:
Think I read where 40% of the city's citizens want to leave...
And it's not some RWEC polling site, it's the San Francisco Chamber of Commerce:
As San Francisco tries to bounce back from the devastating impact of the COVID-19 pandemic, crime and homelessness now rank among the highest levels of concerns among local residents, many who are contemplating relocating, according to a new poll.
The poll was released by the SF Chamber of Commerce and based on feedback from more than 500 San Francisco residents who are registered to vote.
It found that more than 40 percent say they plan to move out of the city in the next few years.
Lindsay Stevens just finished moving out over the weekend.
“There’s nothing worse than seeing such a beautiful place in such disarray, and I really thought I was going to be sad when the movers loaded up the last container on Saturday, and I have never been more relieved,” said Stevens.
After more than 12 years in San Francisco, Stevens recently sold her place and moved to the Palm Springs area.
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wrote on 7 Jul 2021, 11:24 last edited by
I was in San Francisco a few weeks ago. Lots of homeless downtown but other neighborhoods didn’t seem that bad. I was expecting it to be worse than LA, and though my recent experiences with both cities was far from thorough, it didn’t seem to be. At least the nice neighborhoods still seemed nice.
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I was in San Francisco a few weeks ago. Lots of homeless downtown but other neighborhoods didn’t seem that bad. I was expecting it to be worse than LA, and though my recent experiences with both cities was far from thorough, it didn’t seem to be. At least the nice neighborhoods still seemed nice.
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Long ago, it was understood that this kind of thing undermines a civilized society. People like order whether it is communist China or a suburb in Maryland. Reasoned arguments against such behavior don't typically work as effectively as a more direct intervention and adverse consequences.
wrote on 7 Jul 2021, 17:43 last edited by@kluurs said in Shoplifting is OK:
Long ago, it was understood that this kind of thing undermines a civilized society. People like order whether it is communist China or a suburb in Maryland. Reasoned arguments against such behavior don't typically work as effectively as a more direct intervention and adverse consequences.
Order is the bedrock of civilization.
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@kluurs said in Shoplifting is OK:
Long ago, it was understood that this kind of thing undermines a civilized society. People like order whether it is communist China or a suburb in Maryland. Reasoned arguments against such behavior don't typically work as effectively as a more direct intervention and adverse consequences.
Order is the bedrock of civilization.
wrote on 7 Jul 2021, 18:05 last edited by@mik said in Shoplifting is OK:
@kluurs said in Shoplifting is OK:
Long ago, it was understood that this kind of thing undermines a civilized society. People like order whether it is communist China or a suburb in Maryland. Reasoned arguments against such behavior don't typically work as effectively as a more direct intervention and adverse consequences.
Order is the bedrock of civilization.
Anybody invested in the social justice narrative and the righteousness of riots and neighborhood takeovers would disagree. Which is to say, any of the millions and millions of mainstream progressives would disagree.
Not that they would stick to that priority if disorder ever hit them in their own white upper class neighborhoods... but it mostly hasn't yet. They still proudly espouse a belief system that is free of any personal sacrifice.
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@kluurs said in Shoplifting is OK:
Long ago, it was understood that this kind of thing undermines a civilized society. People like order whether it is communist China or a suburb in Maryland. Reasoned arguments against such behavior don't typically work as effectively as a more direct intervention and adverse consequences.
Order is the bedrock of civilization.
wrote on 7 Jul 2021, 18:09 last edited by@mik said in Shoplifting is OK:
@kluurs said in Shoplifting is OK:
Long ago, it was understood that this kind of thing undermines a civilized society. People like order whether it is communist China or a suburb in Maryland. Reasoned arguments against such behavior don't typically work as effectively as a more direct intervention and adverse consequences.
Order is the bedrock of civilization.
Order is a bedrock of white civilization… China is white adjacent.
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@brenda said in Shoplifting is OK:
Nice that they used the curbside pickup spaces.
LOL I thought about that too.
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wrote on 4 Jan 2022, 14:47 last edited by
I don't quite understand why these thieves aren't stopped. Is the security service not allowed to stop them?
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I don't quite understand why these thieves aren't stopped. Is the security service not allowed to stop them?
wrote on 4 Jan 2022, 14:58 last edited by George K 1 Apr 2022, 14:59@klaus said in Shoplifting is OK:
Is the security service not allowed to stop them?
That's right.
And in San Francisco, taking less than $950 is a misdemeanor, which will probably never see the inside of a courtroom. In Chicago, it's $1000.
Assuming a cop arrests you, of course.
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I don't quite understand why these thieves aren't stopped. Is the security service not allowed to stop them?
wrote on 4 Jan 2022, 14:59 last edited by Horace 1 Apr 2022, 15:00@klaus said in Shoplifting is OK:
I don't quite understand why these thieves aren't stopped. Is the security service not allowed to stop them?
Stop them how? You say that like there's an ultimate authority of stoppage. You'd be right, in a society where the police were allowed to do their jobs. That is not the society those crimes are taking place in.
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@klaus said in Shoplifting is OK:
I don't quite understand why these thieves aren't stopped. Is the security service not allowed to stop them?
Stop them how? You say that like there's an ultimate authority of stoppage. You'd be right, in a society where the police were allowed to do their jobs. That is not the society those crimes are taking place in.
wrote on 4 Jan 2022, 15:17 last edited by@horace said in Shoplifting is OK:
@klaus said in Shoplifting is OK:
I don't quite understand why these thieves aren't stopped. Is the security service not allowed to stop them?
Stop them how? You say that like there's an ultimate authority of stoppage. You'd be right, in a society where the police were allowed to do their jobs. That is not the society those crimes are taking place in.
Over here, a security service or store detective can do much less than what the police can do (for instance, they are not allowed to search a person), but they can use "appropriate" force to stop a thief from leaving before the police arrives.
Is that different in all of the US? Or just in California? Or just these cities?
