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  • AxtremusA Axtremus

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/biden-vaccine-donate/2021/06/09/c2744674-c934-11eb-93fa-9053a95eb9f2_story.html

    Biden administration to buy 500 million Pfizer coronavirus vaccine doses to donate to the world

    “… The first 200 million doses will be distributed this year, with the subsequent 300 million shared in the first half of next year. The doses will be distributed by Covax, the World Health Organization-backed initiative to share doses around the globe, and they will be targeted at low- and middle-income countries. Pfizer is selling the doses to the U.S. at a “not-for-profit” price, according to the people familiar with the deal, …”

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    @axtremus said in Vaccine Rollout:

    Biden administration to buy 500 million Pfizer coronavirus vaccine doses to donate to the world

    Gosh I hate to split hairs, but the taxpayers are buying those doses. Taxpayers and our future generations servicing the debt.

    You're welcome, world.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • HoraceH Horace

      @axtremus said in Vaccine Rollout:

      Biden administration to buy 500 million Pfizer coronavirus vaccine doses to donate to the world

      Gosh I hate to split hairs, but the taxpayers are buying those doses. Taxpayers and our future generations servicing the debt.

      You're welcome, world.

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      George K
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      #145

      @horace said in Vaccine Rollout:

      the taxpayers are buying those doses

      Wonder what that half-a-billion doses cost.

      Pfizer is selling the doses to the United States at a “not-for-profit” price, according to the people familiar with the deal, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to share details that were not yet public.

      "Not-for-profit" ≠ "free."

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        xenon
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        #146

        Agreed on the taxpayer part. But, this is one bill I’m happy to pay.

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          Doctor Phibes
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          #147

          I'd happily not receive any more government stimulus checks if it pays for this.

          I was only joking

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          • CopperC Offline
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            #148

            $15 - $20 cost per dose

            500,000,000 x $16 (low end estimate) = $8,000,000,000

            $8,000,000,000 / 141,000,000 US taxpayers

            = about $56 each

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            • CopperC Copper

              $15 - $20 cost per dose

              500,000,000 x $16 (low end estimate) = $8,000,000,000

              $8,000,000,000 / 141,000,000 US taxpayers

              = about $56 each

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              @copper said in Vaccine Rollout:

              $15 - $20 cost per dose

              500,000,000 x $16 (low end estimate) = $8,000,000,000

              $8,000,000,000 / 141,000,000 US taxpayers

              = about $56 each

              No, you and I are paying for 4-5 each... Soros and Bezos are pulling their resources for 1 shot...

              The Brad

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                Axtremus
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                https://abcnews.go.com/Health/cities-reached-bidens-70-vaccination-goal/story?id=78195531

                List of US cities that have crossed the 70% vaccination mark.

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                  High death tolls are good motivation.

                  Would be interesting to take a look at vaccination rates by race. At least down here, it seems like the black community has a better vaccination rate, especially in urban areas.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    High death tolls are good motivation.

                    Would be interesting to take a look at vaccination rates by race. At least down here, it seems like the black community has a better vaccination rate, especially in urban areas.

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                    @jolly said in Vaccine Rollout:

                    the black community has a better vaccination rate

                    Meaning higher?

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                    • CopperC Copper

                      @jolly said in Vaccine Rollout:

                      the black community has a better vaccination rate

                      Meaning higher?

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                      @copper said in Vaccine Rollout:

                      @jolly said in Vaccine Rollout:

                      the black community has a better vaccination rate

                      Meaning higher?

                      Yep. New Orleans got their attention, IMO.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        xenon
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                        Almost all hospitalizations now are now for the unvaccinated.

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                        • JollyJ Offline
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                          Jolly
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                          #155

                          Don't know. Got a link?

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            Don't know. Got a link?

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                            @jolly said in Vaccine Rollout:

                            Don't know. Got a link?

                            Over 99% actually. But I hear ivermectin is a miracle drug.

                            https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210513/over-_99-percent-hospitalized-2021-covid-patients-unvaccinated

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                            • L Loki

                              @jolly said in Vaccine Rollout:

                              Don't know. Got a link?

                              Over 99% actually. But I hear ivermectin is a miracle drug.

                              https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210513/over-_99-percent-hospitalized-2021-covid-patients-unvaccinated

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                              @loki said in Vaccine Rollout:

                              @jolly said in Vaccine Rollout:

                              Don't know. Got a link?

                              Over 99% actually. But I hear ivermectin is a miracle drug.

                              https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210513/over-_99-percent-hospitalized-2021-covid-patients-unvaccinated

                              When you got nothing else....Cuz' I got my doubts about Remdesivir...

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                When somebody would rather take Invermectin or HCQ than get vaccinated, you've got to think there's something amiss....

                                I was only joking

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                  When somebody would rather take Invermectin or HCQ than get vaccinated, you've got to think there's something amiss....

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                                  @doctor-phibes said in Vaccine Rollout:

                                  When somebody would rather take Invermectin or HCQ than get vaccinated, you've got to think there's something amiss.

                                  Agreed. But the two should not be exclusionary.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @doctor-phibes said in Vaccine Rollout:

                                    When somebody would rather take Invermectin or HCQ than get vaccinated, you've got to think there's something amiss.

                                    Agreed. But the two should not be exclusionary.

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                                    @george-k said in Vaccine Rollout:

                                    @doctor-phibes said in Vaccine Rollout:

                                    When somebody would rather take Invermectin or HCQ than get vaccinated, you've got to think there's something amiss.

                                    Agreed. But the two should not be exclusionary.

                                    Agree. And it’s very important for other countries who have much less access to the vaccine.

                                    In the US, however, the vaccine is the clear winner by a country mile.

                                    It’s unnerving to see the anti-vaxxers spread all this nonsense that makes it look like alt medicines are a better path. I also wasted some time this weekend looking at the wild fire spread of magnet nonsense with the vaccine. Worse yet one should watch the HBO documentary on Q Anon and 8 Chan. The people imvolved speak for themselves and one quickly realizes these people are about as uneducated to reality as it gets but somehow have tapped into the reptilian brain of a subset of people…almost schizophrenia…where people see and hear things that are clinically insane.

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                                      Agreed on the taxpayer part. But, this is one bill I’m happy to pay.

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                                      @xenon said in Vaccine Rollout:

                                      Agreed on the taxpayer part. But, this is one bill I’m happy to pay.

                                      Exactly. I think this is great what the US is doing. The world is so combined now, that the quicker the total world gets back to normal, the better it is for the US. And somewhat joking (but not really) US total spending Sept 2019 - Sept 2020 was USD$6.55 TRILLION. USD$8B out of that is about 0.1% (if I did my math correct).

                                      The amount of positive economic effects, foreign relation effects, etc. are much more "bang for the buck" than many of the things that the US government does.

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                                      • L Loki

                                        @george-k said in Vaccine Rollout:

                                        @doctor-phibes said in Vaccine Rollout:

                                        When somebody would rather take Invermectin or HCQ than get vaccinated, you've got to think there's something amiss.

                                        Agreed. But the two should not be exclusionary.

                                        Agree. And it’s very important for other countries who have much less access to the vaccine.

                                        In the US, however, the vaccine is the clear winner by a country mile.

                                        It’s unnerving to see the anti-vaxxers spread all this nonsense that makes it look like alt medicines are a better path. I also wasted some time this weekend looking at the wild fire spread of magnet nonsense with the vaccine. Worse yet one should watch the HBO documentary on Q Anon and 8 Chan. The people imvolved speak for themselves and one quickly realizes these people are about as uneducated to reality as it gets but somehow have tapped into the reptilian brain of a subset of people…almost schizophrenia…where people see and hear things that are clinically insane.

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                                        taiwan_girl
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                                        @loki said in Vaccine Rollout:

                                        In the US, however, the vaccine is the clear winner by a country mile.

                                        This!!!! How can people not realize that the reason the US is able to "open up" is due to the vaccine??

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                                        • L Loki

                                          @george-k said in Vaccine Rollout:

                                          @doctor-phibes said in Vaccine Rollout:

                                          When somebody would rather take Invermectin or HCQ than get vaccinated, you've got to think there's something amiss.

                                          Agreed. But the two should not be exclusionary.

                                          Agree. And it’s very important for other countries who have much less access to the vaccine.

                                          In the US, however, the vaccine is the clear winner by a country mile.

                                          It’s unnerving to see the anti-vaxxers spread all this nonsense that makes it look like alt medicines are a better path. I also wasted some time this weekend looking at the wild fire spread of magnet nonsense with the vaccine. Worse yet one should watch the HBO documentary on Q Anon and 8 Chan. The people imvolved speak for themselves and one quickly realizes these people are about as uneducated to reality as it gets but somehow have tapped into the reptilian brain of a subset of people…almost schizophrenia…where people see and hear things that are clinically insane.

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                                          Renauda
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                                          #163

                                          @loki said in Vaccine Rollout:

                                          The people imvolved speak for themselves and one quickly realizes these people are about as uneducated to reality as it gets but somehow have tapped into the reptilian brain of a subset of people…almost schizophrenia…where people see and hear things that are clinically insane.

                                          Plenty of those uneducated types where I live:

                                          https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-vaccination-rates-education-correlation-1.6063373

                                          Elbows up!

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