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  • G George K
    5 Jun 2021, 21:28

    Presbyopia is a problem in which, with aging, the lens becomes less flexible, and therefore less able to focus the image on the retina.

    LASIK will not help that. All it does is change the focal point forward or back, but the lens still needs to bend so as to accommodate different distances.

    The solution is reading glasses. Your vision will continue to deteriorate for the next 15-20 years until the lens becomes totally inflexible, and you'll plateau at a level of magnification taht you need for a specific task.

    I don't need glasses to drive, for example, but I sure AF need glasses to see the dashboard gauges.

    Welcome to my our world, youngster.

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    Klaus
    wrote on 5 Jun 2021, 21:35 last edited by
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    @george-k said in Glasses?:

    LASIK will not help that

    From what I understand, there's "PresbyLASIK" techniques specifically for that case, but their main problem seems to be that they don't account for the evolution of the problem.

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      Mik
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      Embrace it for what it gives you. When I first needed bifocals I was wearing contacts still so I bought some little half-highs. They were great. I could look up over them at meetings and any adversary would very often just wilt. I loved it.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • K Klaus
        5 Jun 2021, 21:35

        @george-k said in Glasses?:

        LASIK will not help that

        From what I understand, there's "PresbyLASIK" techniques specifically for that case, but their main problem seems to be that they don't account for the evolution of the problem.

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        George K
        wrote on 5 Jun 2021, 21:38 last edited by
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        @klaus said in Glasses?:

        @george-k said in Glasses?:

        LASIK will not help that

        From what I understand, there's "PresbyLASIK" techniques specifically for that case, but their main problem seems to be that they don't account for the evolution of the problem.

        Yes. I talked to my eye guy a while ago about this and he said that the condition evolves, and though it might be OK for me - I seem to have stabilized - it's not good for (cough) younger old people.

        As of yet, there's nothing that can replace the ability of the lens to reshape itself according to the distance you need to focus on. There have been experiments with lenses that can bend (they replace your own lens) but the results have been sketchy.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • M Mik
          5 Jun 2021, 21:35

          Embrace it for what it gives you. When I first needed bifocals I was wearing contacts still so I bought some little half-highs. They were great. I could look up over them at meetings and any adversary would very often just wilt. I loved it.

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          Horace
          wrote on 5 Jun 2021, 21:39 last edited by
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          @mik said in Glasses?:

          Embrace it for what it gives you. When I first needed bifocals I was wearing contacts still so I bought some little half-highs. They were great. I could look up over them at meetings and any adversary would very often just wilt. I loved it.

          The Tommy Lee Jones. Awesome.

          Education is extremely important.

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            Loki
            wrote on 5 Jun 2021, 22:16 last edited by Loki 6 May 2021, 22:16
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            The denial during the transition phase is strong. It will be replaced by gratitude when you realize how helpful those glasses are. You’ll start with cheap ones but as you require them more full time you might find good ones worth it. Good ones are hard to find, usually in an upscale prescription glasses store.

            I’ve only moved up from 1.25 to 2 in about a decade.

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              Klaus
              wrote on 5 Jun 2021, 22:29 last edited by
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              So, what's best?

              Reading glasses?

              Half-highs?

              Multifocal?

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              • L Loki
                5 Jun 2021, 22:16

                The denial during the transition phase is strong. It will be replaced by gratitude when you realize how helpful those glasses are. You’ll start with cheap ones but as you require them more full time you might find good ones worth it. Good ones are hard to find, usually in an upscale prescription glasses store.

                I’ve only moved up from 1.25 to 2 in about a decade.

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                Jolly
                wrote on 5 Jun 2021, 22:30 last edited by Jolly 6 May 2021, 22:33
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                Cheapest thing is a set of reading glasses, found at the corner drug store. At your age, maybe a 2.0.

                I wouldn't worry with anything else until you need bifocals or trifocals.

                (BTW, they do make bifocal contacts. Or you may be one of the few that can tolerate one eye focused with a contact for one distance and the other eye focused for a different distance...Those folks are few, but for those that can, it works really well.

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                • J Jolly
                  5 Jun 2021, 22:30

                  Cheapest thing is a set of reading glasses, found at the corner drug store. At your age, maybe a 2.0.

                  I wouldn't worry with anything else until you need bifocals or trifocals.

                  (BTW, they do make bifocal contacts. Or you may be one of the few that can tolerate one eye focused with a contact for one distance and the other eye focused for a different distance...Those folks are few, but for those that can, it works really well.

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                  Jolly
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                  • K Klaus
                    5 Jun 2021, 22:29

                    So, what's best?

                    Reading glasses?

                    Half-highs?

                    Multifocal?

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                    Loki
                    wrote on 5 Jun 2021, 22:31 last edited by Loki 6 May 2021, 22:34
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                    @klaus said in Glasses?:

                    So, what's best?

                    Reading glasses?

                    Half-highs?

                    Multifocal?

                    I theoretically could use distance lens too but really don’t need them so I have avoided and not felt any loss. I came close several times to buying.

                    Interestingly my readers look like regular glasses and it’s not like a go blind when looking far. Better than having them hang half way down your nose.

                    I have monocular vision but also did not go through the hassle of adjusting for each lens. I don’t notice the difference in each eye unless I am testing.

                    I’m at that point where I can’t read at all without them. Process started about 15 years ago.

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                      Copper
                      wrote on 5 Jun 2021, 23:29 last edited by
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                      Yes, what everyone else said.

                      And Jolly is right about the cheap drug store glasses, they work just fine.

                      You don't need the $300 glasses, which I bought back when I got them for free on my medical plan at work.

                      3 pairs for $20 glasses are ok, and the other good thing is that you can buy enough of them to leave a pair in every room and in your car too.

                      I only wear them if I am reading something within an arms length, but now I really need them for that. I can't read a restaurant menu without glasses now, that is one of many reasons to keep a pair in the car. When I was flying I kept a pair in my pocket, another in the flight bag and a third pair on my nose. Reading gauges, some had small print, was important.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 5 Jun 2021, 23:33 last edited by
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                        I have a pair of $20 full-frame readers at 2.75. They're great for around the house, but not good for distance. If I need to see something in the next room, I simply look over the lens.

                        When I leave the house to drive, I have a pair of 2.75 bifocals, with no correction on the top. Again, about $20.

                        Works for me.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Loki
                          wrote on 5 Jun 2021, 23:36 last edited by
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                          More expensive glasses are purely for fashion, all the cheap ones look like they came from Walmart, not that it’s necessarily a bad thing.

                          If you spring for shoes, $20 readers make no sense.

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                          • L Loki
                            5 Jun 2021, 23:36

                            More expensive glasses are purely for fashion, all the cheap ones look like they came from Walmart, not that it’s necessarily a bad thing.

                            If you spring for shoes, $20 readers make no sense.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 5 Jun 2021, 23:37 last edited by
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                            @loki said in Glasses?:

                            all the cheap ones look like they came from Walmart

                            Some people even buy neckties at Walmart.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • G George K
                              5 Jun 2021, 23:37

                              @loki said in Glasses?:

                              all the cheap ones look like they came from Walmart

                              Some people even buy neckties at Walmart.

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                              Loki
                              wrote on 5 Jun 2021, 23:41 last edited by
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                              @george-k said in Glasses?:

                              @loki said in Glasses?:

                              all the cheap ones look like they came from Walmart

                              Some people even buy neckties at Walmart.

                              Of course! So you would be nuts to pay even 20. I have a few 3 for 13 Costco purchases under my belt. One pair of expensive also has me be more careful and pay attention to where they are. Heck I might be saving money.

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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on 6 Jun 2021, 02:19 last edited by
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                                My advice is get your eyes tested and talk to an optician.

                                I wouldn't go anywhere near those shite things from Walmart, but I've got astigmatism and have to wear progressives all the time.

                                I was only joking

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                                • K Klaus
                                  5 Jun 2021, 22:29

                                  So, what's best?

                                  Reading glasses?

                                  Half-highs?

                                  Multifocal?

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                                  89th
                                  wrote on 6 Jun 2021, 02:21 last edited by
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                                  @klaus said in Glasses?:

                                  So, what's best?

                                  My eyesight is perfect, @Kincaid !

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                                  • H Horace
                                    5 Jun 2021, 21:39

                                    @mik said in Glasses?:

                                    Embrace it for what it gives you. When I first needed bifocals I was wearing contacts still so I bought some little half-highs. They were great. I could look up over them at meetings and any adversary would very often just wilt. I loved it.

                                    The Tommy Lee Jones. Awesome.

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                                    brenda
                                    wrote on 6 Jun 2021, 02:26 last edited by
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                                    @horace said in Glasses?:

                                    @mik said in Glasses?:

                                    Embrace it for what it gives you. When I first needed bifocals I was wearing contacts still so I bought some little half-highs. They were great. I could look up over them at meetings and any adversary would very often just wilt. I loved it.

                                    The Tommy Lee Jones. Awesome.

                                    Exactly! That image immediately popped into my head.

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                                    • L Loki
                                      5 Jun 2021, 23:36

                                      More expensive glasses are purely for fashion, all the cheap ones look like they came from Walmart, not that it’s necessarily a bad thing.

                                      If you spring for shoes, $20 readers make no sense.

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                                      brenda
                                      wrote on 6 Jun 2021, 02:35 last edited by
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                                      @loki said in Glasses?:

                                      More expensive glasses are purely for fashion, ...

                                      Tell that to my eyes, one of which is nearsighted and the other is significantly farsighted. It used to be great when I was younger. I could see up close and very far. Now I have to wear glasses all the time. I even failed the eyesight test at the DMV! 🤨

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                                      • G George K
                                        5 Jun 2021, 23:37

                                        @loki said in Glasses?:

                                        all the cheap ones look like they came from Walmart

                                        Some people even buy neckties at Walmart.

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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on 6 Jun 2021, 02:44 last edited by
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                                        @george-k said in Glasses?:

                                        @loki said in Glasses?:

                                        all the cheap ones look like they came from Walmart

                                        Some people even buy neckties at Walmart.

                                        Shlax & Wing. Worn them for years.

                                        https://www.shlaxwing.com

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                                        • G George K
                                          5 Jun 2021, 23:33

                                          I have a pair of $20 full-frame readers at 2.75. They're great for around the house, but not good for distance. If I need to see something in the next room, I simply look over the lens.

                                          When I leave the house to drive, I have a pair of 2.75 bifocals, with no correction on the top. Again, about $20.

                                          Works for me.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 6 Jun 2021, 02:46 last edited by
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                                          @george-k said in Glasses?:

                                          I have a pair of $20 full-frame readers at 2.75. They're great for around the house, but not good for distance. If I need to see something in the next room, I simply look over the lens.

                                          When I leave the house to drive, I have a pair of 2.75 bifocals, with no correction on the top. Again, about $20.

                                          Works for me.

                                          I'm wearing a pair of $69 bificals from Eyebuydirect. The prescription is spot-on.

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