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  • KlausK Offline
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    Klaus
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    It becomes more and more difficult to ignore the fact that I can't focus stuff that is closer than around 40cm from my eyes. It's not yet a problem for working on the computer, but reading the fine print on labels etc. has become difficult.

    Damn. I don't want fucking glasses. But it looks like the only reasonable option. From what I can see, there's hope that there'll be eyedrops that may help, but it's not yet on the market. (presby)LASIK seems to come with its own set of problems. Hmm...

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      I remember turning 40, and it was like a memo went out to my eyes that they should crap out. I was looking at some print - and noticed that as I brought the print closer that I was instinctively moving my head away from the print.

      The positive of reading glasses is that other things look larger. We had some grapes on the table, and they looked delicious. It wasn't until I saw my giant hands moving toward them that I realized that my perception was off.

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      • George KG Offline
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        Presbyopia is a problem in which, with aging, the lens becomes less flexible, and therefore less able to focus the image on the retina.

        LASIK will not help that. All it does is change the focal point forward or back, but the lens still needs to bend so as to accommodate different distances.

        The solution is reading glasses. Your vision will continue to deteriorate for the next 15-20 years until the lens becomes totally inflexible, and you'll plateau at a level of magnification taht you need for a specific task.

        I don't need glasses to drive, for example, but I sure AF need glasses to see the dashboard gauges.

        Welcome to my our world, youngster.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

          Presbyopia is a problem in which, with aging, the lens becomes less flexible, and therefore less able to focus the image on the retina.

          LASIK will not help that. All it does is change the focal point forward or back, but the lens still needs to bend so as to accommodate different distances.

          The solution is reading glasses. Your vision will continue to deteriorate for the next 15-20 years until the lens becomes totally inflexible, and you'll plateau at a level of magnification taht you need for a specific task.

          I don't need glasses to drive, for example, but I sure AF need glasses to see the dashboard gauges.

          Welcome to my our world, youngster.

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          @george-k said in Glasses?:

          LASIK will not help that

          From what I understand, there's "PresbyLASIK" techniques specifically for that case, but their main problem seems to be that they don't account for the evolution of the problem.

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          • MikM Offline
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            Embrace it for what it gives you. When I first needed bifocals I was wearing contacts still so I bought some little half-highs. They were great. I could look up over them at meetings and any adversary would very often just wilt. I loved it.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • KlausK Klaus

              @george-k said in Glasses?:

              LASIK will not help that

              From what I understand, there's "PresbyLASIK" techniques specifically for that case, but their main problem seems to be that they don't account for the evolution of the problem.

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              @klaus said in Glasses?:

              @george-k said in Glasses?:

              LASIK will not help that

              From what I understand, there's "PresbyLASIK" techniques specifically for that case, but their main problem seems to be that they don't account for the evolution of the problem.

              Yes. I talked to my eye guy a while ago about this and he said that the condition evolves, and though it might be OK for me - I seem to have stabilized - it's not good for (cough) younger old people.

              As of yet, there's nothing that can replace the ability of the lens to reshape itself according to the distance you need to focus on. There have been experiments with lenses that can bend (they replace your own lens) but the results have been sketchy.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • MikM Mik

                Embrace it for what it gives you. When I first needed bifocals I was wearing contacts still so I bought some little half-highs. They were great. I could look up over them at meetings and any adversary would very often just wilt. I loved it.

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                @mik said in Glasses?:

                Embrace it for what it gives you. When I first needed bifocals I was wearing contacts still so I bought some little half-highs. They were great. I could look up over them at meetings and any adversary would very often just wilt. I loved it.

                The Tommy Lee Jones. Awesome.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • L Offline
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                  #8

                  The denial during the transition phase is strong. It will be replaced by gratitude when you realize how helpful those glasses are. You’ll start with cheap ones but as you require them more full time you might find good ones worth it. Good ones are hard to find, usually in an upscale prescription glasses store.

                  I’ve only moved up from 1.25 to 2 in about a decade.

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                  • KlausK Offline
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                    #9

                    So, what's best?

                    Reading glasses?

                    Half-highs?

                    Multifocal?

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                    • L Loki

                      The denial during the transition phase is strong. It will be replaced by gratitude when you realize how helpful those glasses are. You’ll start with cheap ones but as you require them more full time you might find good ones worth it. Good ones are hard to find, usually in an upscale prescription glasses store.

                      I’ve only moved up from 1.25 to 2 in about a decade.

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                      Cheapest thing is a set of reading glasses, found at the corner drug store. At your age, maybe a 2.0.

                      I wouldn't worry with anything else until you need bifocals or trifocals.

                      (BTW, they do make bifocal contacts. Or you may be one of the few that can tolerate one eye focused with a contact for one distance and the other eye focused for a different distance...Those folks are few, but for those that can, it works really well.

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        Cheapest thing is a set of reading glasses, found at the corner drug store. At your age, maybe a 2.0.

                        I wouldn't worry with anything else until you need bifocals or trifocals.

                        (BTW, they do make bifocal contacts. Or you may be one of the few that can tolerate one eye focused with a contact for one distance and the other eye focused for a different distance...Those folks are few, but for those that can, it works really well.

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                        • KlausK Klaus

                          So, what's best?

                          Reading glasses?

                          Half-highs?

                          Multifocal?

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                          #12

                          @klaus said in Glasses?:

                          So, what's best?

                          Reading glasses?

                          Half-highs?

                          Multifocal?

                          I theoretically could use distance lens too but really don’t need them so I have avoided and not felt any loss. I came close several times to buying.

                          Interestingly my readers look like regular glasses and it’s not like a go blind when looking far. Better than having them hang half way down your nose.

                          I have monocular vision but also did not go through the hassle of adjusting for each lens. I don’t notice the difference in each eye unless I am testing.

                          I’m at that point where I can’t read at all without them. Process started about 15 years ago.

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                          • CopperC Offline
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                            Yes, what everyone else said.

                            And Jolly is right about the cheap drug store glasses, they work just fine.

                            You don't need the $300 glasses, which I bought back when I got them for free on my medical plan at work.

                            3 pairs for $20 glasses are ok, and the other good thing is that you can buy enough of them to leave a pair in every room and in your car too.

                            I only wear them if I am reading something within an arms length, but now I really need them for that. I can't read a restaurant menu without glasses now, that is one of many reasons to keep a pair in the car. When I was flying I kept a pair in my pocket, another in the flight bag and a third pair on my nose. Reading gauges, some had small print, was important.

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                              I have a pair of $20 full-frame readers at 2.75. They're great for around the house, but not good for distance. If I need to see something in the next room, I simply look over the lens.

                              When I leave the house to drive, I have a pair of 2.75 bifocals, with no correction on the top. Again, about $20.

                              Works for me.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Loki
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                                More expensive glasses are purely for fashion, all the cheap ones look like they came from Walmart, not that it’s necessarily a bad thing.

                                If you spring for shoes, $20 readers make no sense.

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                                • L Loki

                                  More expensive glasses are purely for fashion, all the cheap ones look like they came from Walmart, not that it’s necessarily a bad thing.

                                  If you spring for shoes, $20 readers make no sense.

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                                  @loki said in Glasses?:

                                  all the cheap ones look like they came from Walmart

                                  Some people even buy neckties at Walmart.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @loki said in Glasses?:

                                    all the cheap ones look like they came from Walmart

                                    Some people even buy neckties at Walmart.

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                                    @george-k said in Glasses?:

                                    @loki said in Glasses?:

                                    all the cheap ones look like they came from Walmart

                                    Some people even buy neckties at Walmart.

                                    Of course! So you would be nuts to pay even 20. I have a few 3 for 13 Costco purchases under my belt. One pair of expensive also has me be more careful and pay attention to where they are. Heck I might be saving money.

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                                      My advice is get your eyes tested and talk to an optician.

                                      I wouldn't go anywhere near those shite things from Walmart, but I've got astigmatism and have to wear progressives all the time.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • KlausK Klaus

                                        So, what's best?

                                        Reading glasses?

                                        Half-highs?

                                        Multifocal?

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                                        @klaus said in Glasses?:

                                        So, what's best?

                                        My eyesight is perfect, @Kincaid !

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                                        • HoraceH Horace

                                          @mik said in Glasses?:

                                          Embrace it for what it gives you. When I first needed bifocals I was wearing contacts still so I bought some little half-highs. They were great. I could look up over them at meetings and any adversary would very often just wilt. I loved it.

                                          The Tommy Lee Jones. Awesome.

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                                          @horace said in Glasses?:

                                          @mik said in Glasses?:

                                          Embrace it for what it gives you. When I first needed bifocals I was wearing contacts still so I bought some little half-highs. They were great. I could look up over them at meetings and any adversary would very often just wilt. I loved it.

                                          The Tommy Lee Jones. Awesome.

                                          Exactly! That image immediately popped into my head.

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