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  • MikM Offline
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    The problem with these numbers is they are all dependent on testing protocols. We are not necessarily looking at apples to apples.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • jon-nycJ Offline
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      #3

      Update on Scandinavia.

      Screen Shot 2020-06-26 at 4.26.22 PM.png

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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      • bachophileB Offline
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        Well, that worked out well

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        • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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          The right wing blog's gone a bit quiet.

          I was only joking

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            Quite the chart.

            It will be interesting to see after, say, 2 years. How many total deaths were caused by COVID in each country, as well as any indirect/economic numbers.

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            • HoraceH Offline
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              The most interesting aspect is the level of acceptance among the population of those numbers. If the population accepts that as the cost of doing business then bless them I say.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                  Is it the inner wang?

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                  • 89th8 89th

                    Quite the chart.

                    It will be interesting to see after, say, 2 years. How many total deaths were caused by COVID in each country, as well as any indirect/economic numbers.

                    jon-nycJ Offline
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                    @89th said in The Herd in Sweden:

                    Quite the chart.

                    It will be interesting to see after, say, 2 years.

                    Here’s one year later.

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                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                    • KlausK Offline
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                      #11

                      Why do you compare Sweden to Norway and Finland only? Why not, say, France or Italy?

                      For instance, when you embed Sweden inside a couple of other bigger nations using confirmed deaths, which is way better suited for comparing countries than confirmed cases. It doesn't really stick out much.

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                      • KlausK Klaus

                        Why do you compare Sweden to Norway and Finland only? Why not, say, France or Italy?

                        For instance, when you embed Sweden inside a couple of other bigger nations using confirmed deaths, which is way better suited for comparing countries than confirmed cases. It doesn't really stick out much.

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                        @klaus said in The Herd in Sweden:

                        Why do you compare Sweden to Norway and Finland only? Why not, say, France or Italy?

                        I am guessing that may be because population, weather, culture, etc. are kind of the same. So, it is able to compare countries without too many variable changes.

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                          Interesting how badly the UK faired during the Christmas outbreak. Almost everybody I come across on Facebook who is in Covid denial is British. The latest rash of stupidity is associated with photos of Melinda Gates demonstrating beyond all doubt that the current person is a doppelganger.

                          Obviously, there's a fair amount of selection bias there 😆

                          I was only joking

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                          • KlausK Klaus

                            Why do you compare Sweden to Norway and Finland only? Why not, say, France or Italy?

                            For instance, when you embed Sweden inside a couple of other bigger nations using confirmed deaths, which is way better suited for comparing countries than confirmed cases. It doesn't really stick out much.

                            0fea854d-cc7e-4976-a4f2-f081dde3d2cc-image.png

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                            @klaus said in The Herd in Sweden:

                            Why do you compare Sweden to Norway and Finland only? Why not, say, France or Italy?

                            Similar culture, latitude, weather, density. Sweden is bit more connected so you'd expect it to be a bit higher than Finland and Norway. But maybe less connected and less dense than Denmark?

                            If you were setting up this as an experiment the month before Covid started it would seem those neighbors are the obvious comparisons. France and Italy comparisons seem post-hoc and chosen simply because they had bad outcomes, not because of any genuine similarity.

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                              Interesting how badly the UK faired during the Christmas outbreak. Almost everybody I come across on Facebook who is in Covid denial is British. The latest rash of stupidity is associated with photos of Melinda Gates demonstrating beyond all doubt that the current person is a doppelganger.

                              Obviously, there's a fair amount of selection bias there 😆

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                              @doctor-phibes said in The Herd in Sweden:

                              Interesting how badly the UK faired during the Christmas outbreak. Almost everybody I come across on Facebook who is in Covid denial is British. The latest rash of stupidity is associated with photos of Melinda Gates demonstrating beyond all doubt that the current person is a doppelganger.

                              Obviously, there's a fair amount of selection bias there 😆

                              @Doctor-Phibes, do you see any correlation between COVID denial and attitude towards BREXIT?

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                              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                @doctor-phibes said in The Herd in Sweden:

                                Interesting how badly the UK faired during the Christmas outbreak. Almost everybody I come across on Facebook who is in Covid denial is British. The latest rash of stupidity is associated with photos of Melinda Gates demonstrating beyond all doubt that the current person is a doppelganger.

                                Obviously, there's a fair amount of selection bias there 😆

                                @Doctor-Phibes, do you see any correlation between COVID denial and attitude towards BREXIT?

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                                @axtremus said in The Herd in Sweden:

                                @doctor-phibes said in The Herd in Sweden:

                                Interesting how badly the UK faired during the Christmas outbreak. Almost everybody I come across on Facebook who is in Covid denial is British. The latest rash of stupidity is associated with photos of Melinda Gates demonstrating beyond all doubt that the current person is a doppelganger.

                                Obviously, there's a fair amount of selection bias there 😆

                                @Doctor-Phibes, do you see any correlation between COVID denial and attitude towards BREXIT?

                                My highly scientific studies have mostly involved trolling Facebook pages of people who are friends of friends in varying degrees of disbelief. I suspect that the people who have very strong opinions about Covid not being real almost certainly have very strong opinions about a number of things. My observations are that most of them are very anti-government, so probably don't like the EU a whole lot.

                                I was only joking

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                                  Nate Silver:

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    In light of what is going on in India is it possible that Denmark and Norway are just whistling past the graveyard?

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