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  • M Mik
    29 Apr 2021, 03:06

    He did well, except that pretty much all of what he proposed will not come to pass.

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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on 29 Apr 2021, 03:52 last edited by LuFins Dad
    #7

    @mik said in SOTU:

    He did well, except that pretty much all of what he proposed will not come to pass.

    And the accomplishments he pointed too were put in place by the last guy.

    The Brad

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      Aqua Letifer
      wrote on 29 Apr 2021, 04:14 last edited by
      #8

      SOTU? More like STFU amirite? Eh? Eh, amirite?

      Please love yourself.

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      • A Aqua Letifer
        29 Apr 2021, 04:14

        SOTU? More like STFU amirite? Eh? Eh, amirite?

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        Kincaid
        wrote on 29 Apr 2021, 04:51 last edited by
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        @aqua-letifer said in SOTU:

        SOTU? More like STFU amirite? Eh? Eh, amirite?

        😂

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          George K
          wrote on 29 Apr 2021, 11:03 last edited by
          #10

          "No amendment is absolute."

          I guess Joe's gonna put y'all back in chains after all.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • L LuFins Dad
            29 Apr 2021, 03:52

            @mik said in SOTU:

            He did well, except that pretty much all of what he proposed will not come to pass.

            And the accomplishments he pointed too were put in place by the last guy.

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            George K
            wrote on 29 Apr 2021, 11:04 last edited by
            #11

            @lufins-dad said in SOTU:

            the accomplishments he pointed too

            Yeah, says the guy who got vaccinated before he was sworn in because of policies put in place by that other guy.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              George K
              wrote on 29 Apr 2021, 11:09 last edited by
              #12

              "The worst attack on our democracy in history."

              Tell that to the sailors at Pearl Harbor or the guys at FDNY about 20 years ago.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • G George K
                29 Apr 2021, 11:04

                @lufins-dad said in SOTU:

                the accomplishments he pointed too

                Yeah, says the guy who got vaccinated before he was sworn in because of policies put in place by that other guy.

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                Jolly
                wrote on 29 Apr 2021, 11:59 last edited by Jolly
                #13

                @george-k said in SOTU:

                @lufins-dad said in SOTU:

                the accomplishments he pointed too

                Yeah, says the guy who got vaccinated before he was sworn in because of policies put in place by that other guy.

                400,000,000.

                At one time, people said a COVID vaccine could not be made in a year. Under the leadership of President Trump, we made three. And bought 400,000,000 doses.

                To be honest, we are still making vaccine to achieve that number, but the makers are using Trump money to do it. Mr. Biden is just riding the wave.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • A Aqua Letifer
                  29 Apr 2021, 04:14

                  SOTU? More like STFU amirite? Eh? Eh, amirite?

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                  89th
                  wrote on 29 Apr 2021, 12:01 last edited by
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                  @aqua-letifer said in SOTU:

                  SOTU? More like STFU amirite? Eh? Eh, amirite?

                  Lulz

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                  • J Jolly
                    29 Apr 2021, 11:59

                    @george-k said in SOTU:

                    @lufins-dad said in SOTU:

                    the accomplishments he pointed too

                    Yeah, says the guy who got vaccinated before he was sworn in because of policies put in place by that other guy.

                    400,000,000.

                    At one time, people said a COVID vaccine could not be made in a year. Under the leadership of President Trump, we made three. And bought 400,000,000 doses.

                    To be honest, we are still making vaccine to achieve that number, but the makers are using Trump money to do it. Mr. Biden is just riding the wave.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 29 Apr 2021, 12:02 last edited by
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                    @jolly said in SOTU:

                    At one time, people said a COVID vaccine could not be made in a year. Under the leadership of President Trump, we made three. And bought 400,000,000 doses.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • J Jolly
                      29 Apr 2021, 11:59

                      @george-k said in SOTU:

                      @lufins-dad said in SOTU:

                      the accomplishments he pointed too

                      Yeah, says the guy who got vaccinated before he was sworn in because of policies put in place by that other guy.

                      400,000,000.

                      At one time, people said a COVID vaccine could not be made in a year. Under the leadership of President Trump, we made three. And bought 400,000,000 doses.

                      To be honest, we are still making vaccine to achieve that number, but the makers are using Trump money to do it. Mr. Biden is just riding the wave.

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                      89th
                      wrote on 29 Apr 2021, 12:04 last edited by
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                      @jolly said in SOTU:

                      Under the leadership of President Trump, we made three. And bought 400,000,000 doses.

                      Didn’t Pfizer do it without government help because it was faster? Didn’t the government fumble the order of vaccines resulting in thousands of unnecessary deaths? Didn’t Trump deny the seriousness of the disease for like half a year?

                      Let’s give credit where credit is due, which also means let’s not give credit where credit is not due.

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                      • 8 89th
                        29 Apr 2021, 12:04

                        @jolly said in SOTU:

                        Under the leadership of President Trump, we made three. And bought 400,000,000 doses.

                        Didn’t Pfizer do it without government help because it was faster? Didn’t the government fumble the order of vaccines resulting in thousands of unnecessary deaths? Didn’t Trump deny the seriousness of the disease for like half a year?

                        Let’s give credit where credit is due, which also means let’s not give credit where credit is not due.

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 29 Apr 2021, 12:10 last edited by Jolly
                        #17

                        @89th said in SOTU:

                        @jolly said in SOTU:

                        Under the leadership of President Trump, we made three. And bought 400,000,000 doses.

                        Didn’t Pfizer do it without government help because it was faster? Didn’t the government fumble the order of vaccines resulting in thousands of unnecessary deaths? Didn’t Trump deny the seriousness of the disease for like half a year?

                        Let’s give credit where credit is due, which also means let’s not give credit where credit is not due.

                        Have you ever worked with the FDA on a clinical pharmaceutical trial or done the work necessary to approve a new test or testing platform?

                        If not, you don't have a clue on what mountains were moved to accomplish this, regardless of money. Although we certainly did spend the money.

                        You're like the guy who's worried about the paint on the third stripe of the landing strip, while the pilot is trying to land the airplane with an engine on fire.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • 8 89th
                          29 Apr 2021, 12:04

                          @jolly said in SOTU:

                          Under the leadership of President Trump, we made three. And bought 400,000,000 doses.

                          Didn’t Pfizer do it without government help because it was faster? Didn’t the government fumble the order of vaccines resulting in thousands of unnecessary deaths? Didn’t Trump deny the seriousness of the disease for like half a year?

                          Let’s give credit where credit is due, which also means let’s not give credit where credit is not due.

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 29 Apr 2021, 12:14 last edited by
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                          @89th said in SOTU:

                          @jolly said in SOTU:

                          Under the leadership of President Trump, we made three. And bought 400,000,000 doses.

                          Didn’t Pfizer do it without government help because it was faster? Didn’t the government fumble the order of vaccines resulting in thousands of unnecessary deaths? Didn’t Trump deny the seriousness of the disease for like half a year?

                          Let’s give credit where credit is due, which also means let’s not give credit where credit is not due.

                          1. Warpspeed wasn’t simply money. Pfizer still benefited.

                          2. Yes, many STATE governments did screw it up. We don’t really know the cost of their mistakes.

                          3. You have your mind made up on that matter so it’s not really worth debating.

                          The Brad

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                            89th
                            wrote on 29 Apr 2021, 12:42 last edited by
                            #19

                            It’s amazing how folks bend over backwards to give Trump credit while ignoring all the blunders, something I’d doubt would happen if Obama or Biden were in office.

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                            • 8 89th
                              29 Apr 2021, 12:42

                              It’s amazing how folks bend over backwards to give Trump credit while ignoring all the blunders, something I’d doubt would happen if Obama or Biden were in office.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 29 Apr 2021, 12:45 last edited by
                              #20

                              @89th said in SOTU:

                              It’s amazing how folks bend over backwards to give Trump credit while ignoring all the blunders, something I’d doubt would happen if Obama or Biden were in office.

                              It's amazing how some people hate Trump so much, they wish to give him credit for nothing.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                89th
                                wrote on 29 Apr 2021, 12:45 last edited by
                                #21

                                I’ve said many times that Trump did many great things while in office. I’ve also said his handling of the covid response and his politically unforgivable refusal to accept election results will be his legacy. I try to keep my opinions of the accomplishments and blunders in 2020 pretty apolitical, but I doubt you’ll believe that.

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                                • J Jolly
                                  29 Apr 2021, 12:45

                                  @89th said in SOTU:

                                  It’s amazing how folks bend over backwards to give Trump credit while ignoring all the blunders, something I’d doubt would happen if Obama or Biden were in office.

                                  It's amazing how some people hate Trump so much, they wish to give him credit for nothing.

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                                  89th
                                  wrote on 29 Apr 2021, 12:45 last edited by
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                                  @jolly said in SOTU:

                                  @89th said in SOTU:

                                  It’s amazing how folks bend over backwards to give Trump credit while ignoring all the blunders, something I’d doubt would happen if Obama or Biden were in office.

                                  It's amazing how some people hate Trump so much, they wish to give him credit for nothing.

                                  LOL, see above post.

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                                  • 8 89th
                                    29 Apr 2021, 12:45

                                    I’ve said many times that Trump did many great things while in office. I’ve also said his handling of the covid response and his politically unforgivable refusal to accept election results will be his legacy. I try to keep my opinions of the accomplishments and blunders in 2020 pretty apolitical, but I doubt you’ll believe that.

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 29 Apr 2021, 12:46 last edited by
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                                    @89th said in SOTU:

                                    I’ve said many times that Trump did many great things while in office. I’ve also said his handling of the covid response and his politically unforgivable refusal to accept election results will be his legacy. I try to keep my opinions of the accomplishments and blunders in 2020 pretty apolitical, but I doubt you’ll believe that.

                                    Don't doubt.

                                    As evidenced by your actions, I don't believe you at all. Not on your Trump opinions.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 29 Apr 2021, 14:20 last edited by Mik
                                      #24

                                      Biden's taking credit for what was done by the prior administration was predictably slimy.

                                      But the real vacuousness of his positions, however nice they might sound, can be found in his claim that preschool, not daycare, is the single largest predictor of a child's educational success. The fallacy there is it does not take into account that folks who put their kids in preschool prioritize their education. Again, it's the home and parents that make the difference, not just the child attending. If it is free they will take it but it won't make failing districts succeed.

                                      Most of his proposed programs are like that. The 'American Jobs' act will produce blue collar jobs. Swell. Who is going to fill those jobs and what do we do with this new generation of blue collar workers as automation continues to make their jobs unnecessary? Roofers today have to hire illegals because Americans won't do that work for the most part. Besides that convenience stores around here are having to shut down at night because he extended unemployment subsidies to September and no one in their right mind would work for essentially nothing.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        Copper
                                        wrote on 29 Apr 2021, 16:25 last edited by
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                                        Gloria Borger is the one who had the job of giggling and rolling her eyes every time anyone said Sarah Palin.

                                        She was really good at it.

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                                        • M Mik
                                          29 Apr 2021, 14:20

                                          Biden's taking credit for what was done by the prior administration was predictably slimy.

                                          But the real vacuousness of his positions, however nice they might sound, can be found in his claim that preschool, not daycare, is the single largest predictor of a child's educational success. The fallacy there is it does not take into account that folks who put their kids in preschool prioritize their education. Again, it's the home and parents that make the difference, not just the child attending. If it is free they will take it but it won't make failing districts succeed.

                                          Most of his proposed programs are like that. The 'American Jobs' act will produce blue collar jobs. Swell. Who is going to fill those jobs and what do we do with this new generation of blue collar workers as automation continues to make their jobs unnecessary? Roofers today have to hire illegals because Americans won't do that work for the most part. Besides that convenience stores around here are having to shut down at night because he extended unemployment subsidies to September and no one in their right mind would work for essentially nothing.

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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on 29 Apr 2021, 18:36 last edited by
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                                          @mik said in SOTU:

                                          Biden's taking credit for what was done by the prior administration was predictably slimy.

                                          But the real vacuousness of his positions, however nice they might sound, can be found in his claim that preschool, not daycare, is the single largest predictor of a child's educational success. The fallacy there is it does not take into account that folks who put their kids in preschool prioritize their education. Again, it's the home and parents that make the difference, not just the child attending. If it is free they will take it but it won't make failing districts succeed.

                                          Just look at the Head Start program...

                                          The Brad

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