Another police traffic stop gone wrong

[Loki]

@axtremus said in Another police traffic stop gone wrong:

Let's say that the officer meant to fire her taser but mistakenly fired her gun instead. Now what?

Imagine for a moment the person thus killed was your brother or your son, are you going to look at this one fact that "the officer mistook up her gun for her taser" and tell yourself "well that's life" and let it be the end of it all?

Change that perspective again and try to imagine yourself as the police captain or the police chief, you learnt that an officer on your force mistook her gun for a taser and unintentionally killed a person as a result. Are you going to tell yourself "well that's life" and let it be the end of it all?

One last one, imagine yourself to be the person who mistook your gun for a taser and you killed another person with it. Would you expect to just say "oops" and that will be end of it all?

I don’t think anyone said that.

[Horace]

@axtremus said in Another police traffic stop gone wrong:

Let's say that the officer meant to fire her taser but mistakenly fired her gun instead. Now what?

Imagine for a moment the person thus killed was your brother or your son, are you going to look at this one fact that "the officer mistook up her gun for her taser" and tell yourself "well that's life" and let it be the end of it all?

Change that perspective again and try to imagine yourself as the police captain or the police chief, you learnt that an officer on your force mistook her gun for a taser and unintentionally killed a person as a result. Are you going to tell yourself "well that's life" and let it be the end of it all?

One last one, imagine yourself to be the person who mistook your gun for a taser and you killed another person with it. Would you expect to just say "oops" and that will be end of it all?

That already played out near me, they even made a movie about it. Fruitvale Station. The officer did prison time of course. I assume the victim’s family got millions.

[LuFins Dad]

@axtremus said in Another police traffic stop gone wrong:

Let's say that the officer meant to fire her taser but mistakenly fired her gun instead. Now what?

Imagine for a moment the person thus killed was your brother or your son, are you going to look at this one fact that "the officer mistook up her gun for her taser" and tell yourself "well that's life" and let it be the end of it all?

Change that perspective again and try to imagine yourself as the police captain or the police chief, you learnt that an officer on your force mistook her gun for a taser and unintentionally killed a person as a result. Are you going to tell yourself "well that's life" and let it be the end of it all?

One last one, imagine yourself to be the person who mistook your gun for a taser and you killed another person with it. Would you expect to just say "oops" and that will be end of it all?

It’s too bad there isn’t something in between Murder 2 and “Oops, well that’s life”. Apparently there isn’t. Too bad. Let’s send the video to America’s Funniest Videos!

[Jolly]

Shit happens.

Even with people's lives.

For whatever reason, the guy was resisting arrest. That's probably because he was a wannabe gangsta (money and gun waving pictures). Or maybe it's just the current culture in the black community.

Did he deserve to die? No. Did the officer make a tragic mistake in the heat and confusion of the moment? Yes. Will she do time? Yes, probably for manslaughter.

[George K]

And of course, the obvious question is asked:

[Mik]

That is the question - what was the proximate cause of this incident? It cannot be the stop. Police were doing what we hire police to do. So the question then becomes, would this have happened if the deceased had complied with the officers? Obviously not.

Honestly, if it were my family member I would put at least equal blame on them.

[Loki]

[LuFins Dad]

So she wants the laws that she helps create to not be enforced. Got it.

[Doctor Phibes]

I'd be happy for the police to be less militarized. The rest of what she said would disqualify her from being elected in a sane world, but undoubtedly won't.

[Loki]

The real question is why is the tweet not deleted by twitter and is she a candidate for twitter suspension?

And also why isn’t the MSM weighing in?

[Horace]

@loki said in Another police traffic stop gone wrong:

The real question is why is the tweet not deleted by twitter and is she a candidate for twitter suspension?

And also why isn’t the MSM weighing in?

Because pop culture, by which I mean all messaging we're exposed to throughout all media, is dominated by left-leaning authoritarians?

Just a guess on my part.

[Copper]

@axtremus said in Another police traffic stop gone wrong:

Imagine for a moment the person thus killed was your brother or your son, are you going to look at this one fact that "the officer mistook up her gun for her taser" and tell yourself "well that's life" and let it be the end of it all?

Obviously, you would tell yourself that your brother or son was stupid for acting like he did.

The officer's gun is irrelevant, the dead guy is responsible for his behavior.

[xenon]

I dunno how culpable the lady officer is - but I do know that defunding her training can't make her response any better.

[Horace]

@copper said in Another police traffic stop gone wrong:

@axtremus said in Another police traffic stop gone wrong:

Imagine for a moment the person thus killed was your brother or your son, are you going to look at this one fact that "the officer mistook up her gun for her taser" and tell yourself "well that's life" and let it be the end of it all?

Obviously, you would tell yourself that your brother or son was stupid for acting like he did.

The officer's gun is irrelevant, the dead guy is responsible for his behavior.

The left leaning humans don't really understand the concept of personal responsibility. They think "what if it was your family member" is some sort of trump card for every anecdote. Redo all of society because "what if it was your family member".

These small people, small thinkers, just don't understand societies. They only understand their own families. They really do need the rest of us to do their thinking for them.

[LuFins Dad]

The Mayor said the cop needs fired. The City Manager says due process must be upheld. The city manager is now looking for a new job...And hopefully a competent attorney.

https://nypost.com/2021/04/12/daunte-wright-shooting-brooklyn-center-city-manager-fired/

[Jolly]

BTW...There were four cops at this traffic stop. Why? Outstanding warrant for illegal firearms possession and he had a probation hold.

If he hadn't slipped his restraints and tried to make a run for it, he'd be alive today...

[89th]

@jolly said in Another police traffic stop gone wrong:

If he hadn't slipped his restraints and tried to make a run for it, he'd be alive today...

What are the stats again? Each year in the USA there are 10,000,000 arrests made, of which about 1,000 deaths by police, of which only 50 involved an unarmed suspect (although there could be justified use, such as using a car as a weapon) and of the 50 I think 35 were white and 18 were black... oh and of all 50...I'm guessing all 50 were resisting arrest.

So yes. Don't be a criminal. AND if you are one, don't resist arrest. This would solve 99.9999999% (if not 100%) of the problems people are protesting.

[Rainman]

This forum uses too much math.

[brenda]

@rainman said in Another police traffic stop gone wrong:

This forum uses too much math.

LOLOLOL

[Jolly]

@89th said in Another police traffic stop gone wrong:

@jolly said in Another police traffic stop gone wrong:

If he hadn't slipped his restraints and tried to make a run for it, he'd be alive today...

What are the stats again? Each year in the USA there are 10,000,000 arrests made, of which about 1,000 deaths by police, of which only 50 involved an unarmed suspect (although there could be justified use, such as using a car as a weapon) and of the 50 I think 35 were white and 18 were black... oh and of all 50...I'm guessing all 50 were resisting arrest.

So yes. Don't be a criminal. AND if you are one, don't resist arrest. This would solve 99.9999999% (if not 100%) of the problems people are protesting.

Again, ad infinitum, ad nauseum... There exists a culture in the black community, a gangsta-wannabe culture fueled by the illegal drug trade. A culture where drugs, rappers, guns and ho's are glorified. A culture that resents any authority, probably because they are fatherless and have rarely been subjected to authority at home. A culture which does not value education, hard work, thrift or advancing one's station in life. A culture where a felony conviction and a prison term is almost seen as a rite of passage for young black men.

You can throw money at this until Hell freezes over and the Devil takes up figure skating and it will not make any difference.

The black community must demand and invest in change from within. That won't happen. Society, as a whole, is coarsening and losing many of the things which make it successful...Strong families, strong morals, work ethic, and a sense of duty. Why should the black community aspire to become like the more successful segments of society, when much if those segments are busy lurching tiwards the dysfunction of the black community?

And then there are the people making money and careers off of all this mess...