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  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

    It's not just about honour killing, which I would hope everybody would say is a very bad thing, it's about girls and young women becoming completely ostracized from their families.

    Obviously, outlawing virginity tests isn't going to change attitudes in of itself, but it sends a message that this isn't what we do.

    Anyway, it's up to the French what they do, and a bunch of Americans telling them they're wrong is going to have about as much effect as renaming your French fries - which I'm sure we can all agree was a particularly meaningless bit of symbolism.

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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #97

    @doctor-phibes said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

    It's not just about honour killing, which I would hope everybody would say is a very bad thing, it's about girls and young women becoming completely ostracized from their families.

    Obviously, outlawing virginity tests isn't going to change attitudes in of itself, but it sends a message that this isn't what we do.

    Anyway, it's up to the French what they do, and a bunch of Americans telling them they're wrong is going to have about as much effect as renaming your French fries - which I'm sure we can all agree was a particularly meaningless bit of symbolism.

    Then maybe they need to be ostracized from their families. Then, maybe the practice dies as they marry nice French lads and produce children of their own...

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      @doctor-phibes said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

      It's not just about honour killing, which I would hope everybody would say is a very bad thing, it's about girls and young women becoming completely ostracized from their families.

      Obviously, outlawing virginity tests isn't going to change attitudes in of itself, but it sends a message that this isn't what we do.

      Anyway, it's up to the French what they do, and a bunch of Americans telling them they're wrong is going to have about as much effect as renaming your French fries - which I'm sure we can all agree was a particularly meaningless bit of symbolism.

      Then maybe they need to be ostracized from their families. Then, maybe the practice dies as they marry nice French lads and produce children of their own...

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      Renauda
      wrote on last edited by
      #98

      @jolly said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

      Then maybe they need to be ostracized from their families.

      For not taking advice from a few Americans?

      Elbows up!

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        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on last edited by
        #99

        Also, as any civilized person will tell you, the correct word for French fries is ‘chips’.

        I was only joking

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        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

          Also, as any civilized person will tell you, the correct word for French fries is ‘chips’.

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          Renauda
          wrote on last edited by
          #100

          @doctor-phibes

          Chips topped with malt vinegar and a bit of salt.

          Elbows up!

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          • RenaudaR Renauda

            @jolly said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

            Then maybe they need to be ostracized from their families.

            For not taking advice from a few Americans?

            JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
            wrote on last edited by
            #101

            @renauda said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

            @jolly said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

            Then maybe they need to be ostracized from their families.

            For not taking advice from a few Americans?

            Or Canadians.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

            RenaudaR 1 Reply Last reply
            • JollyJ Jolly

              @renauda said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

              @jolly said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

              Then maybe they need to be ostracized from their families.

              For not taking advice from a few Americans?

              Or Canadians.

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              RenaudaR Offline
              Renauda
              wrote on last edited by Renauda
              #102

              @jolly said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

              @renauda said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

              @jolly said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

              Then maybe they need to be ostracized from their families.

              For not taking advice from a few Americans?

              Or Canadians.

              We are not advising, We are supporting institutional secularism in France. As we do in Quebec.

              A big difference.

              Elbows up!

              JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
              • RenaudaR Renauda

                @jolly said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

                @renauda said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

                @jolly said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

                Then maybe they need to be ostracized from their families.

                For not taking advice from a few Americans?

                Or Canadians.

                We are not advising, We are supporting institutional secularism in France. As we do in Quebec.

                A big difference.

                JollyJ Offline
                JollyJ Offline
                Jolly
                wrote on last edited by Jolly
                #103

                @renauda said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

                @jolly said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

                @renauda said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

                @jolly said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

                Then maybe they need to be ostracized from their families.

                For not taking advice from a few Americans?

                Or Canadians.

                We are not advising, We are supporting institutional secularism in France. As we do in Quebec.

                A big difference.

                I'm supporting the right of people to live free without interference of government into their private lives. As we do in America. And as they supposedly do in France.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                RenaudaR 1 Reply Last reply
                • JollyJ Jolly

                  @renauda said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

                  @jolly said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

                  @renauda said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

                  @jolly said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

                  Then maybe they need to be ostracized from their families.

                  For not taking advice from a few Americans?

                  Or Canadians.

                  We are not advising, We are supporting institutional secularism in France. As we do in Quebec.

                  A big difference.

                  I'm supporting the right of people to live free without interference of government into their private lives. As we do in America. And as they supposedly do in France.

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on last edited by Renauda
                  #104

                  @jolly said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

                  @renauda said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

                  @jolly said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

                  @renauda said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

                  @jolly said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

                  Then maybe they need to be ostracized from their families.

                  For not taking advice from a few Americans?

                  Or Canadians.

                  We are not advising, We are supporting institutional secularism in France. As we do in Quebec.

                  A big difference.

                  I'm supporting the right of people to live free without interference of government into their private lives. As we do in America. And as they supposedly do in France.

                  I don't believe that for a second. I think America shattered that myth of itself a long time ago. You just find secularism abhorrent. I do not.

                  Elbows up!

                  JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #105

                    Maybe all the Muslims will come to America.

                    I was only joking

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                    • RenaudaR Renauda

                      @jolly said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

                      @renauda said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

                      @jolly said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

                      @renauda said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

                      @jolly said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

                      Then maybe they need to be ostracized from their families.

                      For not taking advice from a few Americans?

                      Or Canadians.

                      We are not advising, We are supporting institutional secularism in France. As we do in Quebec.

                      A big difference.

                      I'm supporting the right of people to live free without interference of government into their private lives. As we do in America. And as they supposedly do in France.

                      I don't believe that for a second. I think America shattered that myth of itself a long time ago. You just find secularism abhorrent. I do not.

                      JollyJ Offline
                      JollyJ Offline
                      Jolly
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #106

                      @renauda said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

                      @jolly said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

                      @renauda said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

                      @jolly said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

                      @renauda said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

                      @jolly said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

                      Then maybe they need to be ostracized from their families.

                      For not taking advice from a few Americans?

                      Or Canadians.

                      We are not advising, We are supporting institutional secularism in France. As we do in Quebec.

                      A big difference.

                      I'm supporting the right of people to live free without interference of government into their private lives. As we do in America. And as they supposedly do in France.

                      I don't believe that for a second. I think America shattered that myth of itself a long time ago. You just find secularism abhorrent. I do not.

                      I think secularism is a dead end road, littered with the remains of shattered hope and an ever-changing belief system. A series of vignettes of situational ethics and moral uncertainty, roaring loud and signifying nothing.

                      Other than that, I'm sure some people like it...

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                      RenaudaR 1 Reply Last reply
                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        @renauda said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

                        @jolly said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

                        @renauda said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

                        @jolly said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

                        @renauda said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

                        @jolly said in French Government Says No to Virginity Test:

                        Then maybe they need to be ostracized from their families.

                        For not taking advice from a few Americans?

                        Or Canadians.

                        We are not advising, We are supporting institutional secularism in France. As we do in Quebec.

                        A big difference.

                        I'm supporting the right of people to live free without interference of government into their private lives. As we do in America. And as they supposedly do in France.

                        I don't believe that for a second. I think America shattered that myth of itself a long time ago. You just find secularism abhorrent. I do not.

                        I think secularism is a dead end road, littered with the remains of shattered hope and an ever-changing belief system. A series of vignettes of situational ethics and moral uncertainty, roaring loud and signifying nothing.

                        Other than that, I'm sure some people like it...

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #107

                        @jolly

                        Yes you are correct, some people do like secularism and what it brings to the modern world.

                        I am one of those people and will continue to advocate for it.

                        Elbows up!

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                        • CopperC Offline
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                          Copper
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #108

                          Fine, just keep it away from Jolly

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                            Renauda
                            wrote on last edited by Renauda
                            #109

                            No worries, France is long way from Louisiana. So is the 49th parallel.

                            Elbows up!

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