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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #1

    Watching a crew of bricklayers today (BTW, never call a mason a bricklayer, that's an insult. It's like calling a furniture maker a carpenter.), I noticed not a single person spoke English.

    That's par for the course, nowadays. Same thing goes for roofers and concrete finishers. All Mexicans.

    Sadly, those used to be the jobs where you saw a lot of less educated black and white folks. It's hard work, but wages used to be pretty good.

    Joe, you're killing us...

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      Watching a crew of bricklayers today (BTW, never call a mason a bricklayer, that's an insult. It's like calling a furniture maker a carpenter.), I noticed not a single person spoke English.

      That's par for the course, nowadays. Same thing goes for roofers and concrete finishers. All Mexicans.

      Sadly, those used to be the jobs where you saw a lot of less educated black and white folks. It's hard work, but wages used to be pretty good.

      Joe, you're killing us...

      Doctor PhibesD Offline
      Doctor PhibesD Offline
      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      This was one of the first things I noticed when I came over here.

      In 2003.

      I was only joking

      JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        This was one of the first things I noticed when I came over here.

        In 2003.

        JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
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        #3

        @doctor-phibes said in Albanil:

        This was one of the first things I noticed when I came over here.

        In 2003.

        It's worse now.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          @doctor-phibes said in Albanil:

          This was one of the first things I noticed when I came over here.

          In 2003.

          It's worse now.

          Doctor PhibesD Offline
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          Doctor Phibes
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          #4

          @jolly said in Albanil:

          @doctor-phibes said in Albanil:

          This was one of the first things I noticed when I came over here.

          In 2003.

          It's worse now.

          Bush, Obama, Trump.

          None of them fixed it.

          I was only joking

          JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            @jolly said in Albanil:

            @doctor-phibes said in Albanil:

            This was one of the first things I noticed when I came over here.

            In 2003.

            It's worse now.

            Bush, Obama, Trump.

            None of them fixed it.

            JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            @doctor-phibes said in Albanil:

            @jolly said in Albanil:

            @doctor-phibes said in Albanil:

            This was one of the first things I noticed when I came over here.

            In 2003.

            It's worse now.

            Bush, Obama, Trump.

            None of them fixed it.

            Trump tried.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @doctor-phibes said in Albanil:

              @jolly said in Albanil:

              @doctor-phibes said in Albanil:

              This was one of the first things I noticed when I came over here.

              In 2003.

              It's worse now.

              Bush, Obama, Trump.

              None of them fixed it.

              Trump tried.

              Doctor PhibesD Offline
              Doctor PhibesD Offline
              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              @jolly said in Albanil:

              @doctor-phibes said in Albanil:

              @jolly said in Albanil:

              @doctor-phibes said in Albanil:

              This was one of the first things I noticed when I came over here.

              In 2003.

              It's worse now.

              Bush, Obama, Trump.

              None of them fixed it.

              Trump tried.

              So did Bush and Obama.

              I was only joking

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                Watching a crew of bricklayers today (BTW, never call a mason a bricklayer, that's an insult. It's like calling a furniture maker a carpenter.), I noticed not a single person spoke English.

                That's par for the course, nowadays. Same thing goes for roofers and concrete finishers. All Mexicans.

                Sadly, those used to be the jobs where you saw a lot of less educated black and white folks. It's hard work, but wages used to be pretty good.

                Joe, you're killing us...

                Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                Aqua Letifer
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                @jolly said in Albanil:

                Watching a crew of bricklayers today (BTW, never call a mason a bricklayer, that's an insult. It's like calling a furniture maker a carpenter.), I noticed not a single person spoke English.

                For most places around the country it's about 50/50, white/hispanic.

                Please love yourself.

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                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                  @jolly said in Albanil:

                  Watching a crew of bricklayers today (BTW, never call a mason a bricklayer, that's an insult. It's like calling a furniture maker a carpenter.), I noticed not a single person spoke English.

                  For most places around the country it's about 50/50, white/hispanic.

                  Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  @aqua-letifer said in Albanil:

                  @jolly said in Albanil:

                  Watching a crew of bricklayers today (BTW, never call a mason a bricklayer, that's an insult. It's like calling a furniture maker a carpenter.), I noticed not a single person spoke English.

                  For most places around the country it's about 50/50, white/hispanic.

                  In England all the brickies are Polish. At least, they were the last time I visited.

                  I shudder to think what's going to happen when they can't get well-motivated immigrants to do the job.

                  I was only joking

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    @aqua-letifer said in Albanil:

                    @jolly said in Albanil:

                    Watching a crew of bricklayers today (BTW, never call a mason a bricklayer, that's an insult. It's like calling a furniture maker a carpenter.), I noticed not a single person spoke English.

                    For most places around the country it's about 50/50, white/hispanic.

                    In England all the brickies are Polish. At least, they were the last time I visited.

                    I shudder to think what's going to happen when they can't get well-motivated immigrants to do the job.

                    AxtremusA Offline
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                    Axtremus
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                    #9

                    @doctor-phibes said in Albanil:

                    I shudder to think what's going to happen when they can't get well-motivated immigrants to do the job.

                    Height wages for citizens to do some of the jobs, leave the other jobs not done, until robot technology catches up.

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                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                      @doctor-phibes said in Albanil:

                      I shudder to think what's going to happen when they can't get well-motivated immigrants to do the job.

                      Height wages for citizens to do some of the jobs, leave the other jobs not done, until robot technology catches up.

                      Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                      Aqua Letifer
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                      #10

                      @axtremus said in Albanil:

                      until robot technology catches up.

                      That's a very, very long way off for many types of masonry.

                      Please love yourself.

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                      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                        @jolly said in Albanil:

                        Watching a crew of bricklayers today (BTW, never call a mason a bricklayer, that's an insult. It's like calling a furniture maker a carpenter.), I noticed not a single person spoke English.

                        For most places around the country it's about 50/50, white/hispanic.

                        JollyJ Offline
                        JollyJ Offline
                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #11

                        @aqua-letifer said in Albanil:

                        @jolly said in Albanil:

                        Watching a crew of bricklayers today (BTW, never call a mason a bricklayer, that's an insult. It's like calling a furniture maker a carpenter.), I noticed not a single person spoke English.

                        For most places around the country it's about 50/50, white/hispanic.

                        Down here, as recent as the 90's, it was about 70/30, with most of the brick and concrete guys being
                        black.

                        My question us what happened to the guys who used to do these jobs? They became accountants?

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                        George KG 1 Reply Last reply
                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          @aqua-letifer said in Albanil:

                          @jolly said in Albanil:

                          Watching a crew of bricklayers today (BTW, never call a mason a bricklayer, that's an insult. It's like calling a furniture maker a carpenter.), I noticed not a single person spoke English.

                          For most places around the country it's about 50/50, white/hispanic.

                          Down here, as recent as the 90's, it was about 70/30, with most of the brick and concrete guys being
                          black.

                          My question us what happened to the guys who used to do these jobs? They became accountants?

                          George KG Offline
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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #12

                          @jolly said in Albanil:

                          My question us what happened to the guys who used to do these jobs? They became accountants?

                          They learned to code?

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG George K

                            @jolly said in Albanil:

                            My question us what happened to the guys who used to do these jobs? They became accountants?

                            They learned to code?

                            JollyJ Offline
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                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            @george-k said in Albanil:

                            @jolly said in Albanil:

                            My question us what happened to the guys who used to do these jobs? They became accountants?

                            They learned to code?

                            <SNORT>

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • AxtremusA Axtremus

                              @doctor-phibes said in Albanil:

                              I shudder to think what's going to happen when they can't get well-motivated immigrants to do the job.

                              Height wages for citizens to do some of the jobs, leave the other jobs not done, until robot technology catches up.

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                              Catseye3
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                              #14

                              @axtremus said in Albanil:

                              Height wages for citizens to do some of the jobs --

                              This will be patchy because I don't remember key details, but:

                              Down South, Georgia, Alabama, somewhere thereabouts, some bureaucrat, the governor maybe, did something to drive away the migrant labor who heretofore had harvested the peaches (?) Result: The crop rotted on the ground. Possibly because welfare paid better than migrant wages.

                              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                taiwan_girl
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                                #15

                                In Japan, there is a description for a certain type of job.

                                They are called 3K - which the English translation is

                                dirty
                                dangerous
                                demeaning

                                Who takes those jobs? Immigrants.

                                I think there is a version like this all over the world.

                                In the US, it is the Spanish people
                                In Thailand, the Burmese
                                In Taiwan, mainly mainland Chinese
                                etc

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                                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                  In Japan, there is a description for a certain type of job.

                                  They are called 3K - which the English translation is

                                  dirty
                                  dangerous
                                  demeaning

                                  Who takes those jobs? Immigrants.

                                  I think there is a version like this all over the world.

                                  In the US, it is the Spanish people
                                  In Thailand, the Burmese
                                  In Taiwan, mainly mainland Chinese
                                  etc

                                  JollyJ Offline
                                  JollyJ Offline
                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #16

                                  @taiwan_girl said in Albanil:

                                  In Japan, there is a description for a certain type of job.

                                  They are called 3K - which the English translation is

                                  dirty
                                  dangerous
                                  demeaning

                                  Who takes those jobs? Immigrants.

                                  I think there is a version like this all over the world.

                                  In the US, it is the Spanish people
                                  In Thailand, the Burmese
                                  In Taiwan, mainly mainland Chinese
                                  etc

                                  Ever watch the old Mike Rowe series, Dirty Jobs? Lots of dirty and dangerous jobs out there. Some of them pay pretty well.

                                  As for bricklayers, concrete finishers, roofers and the like, those are physically demanding jobs, but the money can be pretty good. I don't think you can compare those jobs to things like agriculture work.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    @taiwan_girl said in Albanil:

                                    In Japan, there is a description for a certain type of job.

                                    They are called 3K - which the English translation is

                                    dirty
                                    dangerous
                                    demeaning

                                    Who takes those jobs? Immigrants.

                                    I think there is a version like this all over the world.

                                    In the US, it is the Spanish people
                                    In Thailand, the Burmese
                                    In Taiwan, mainly mainland Chinese
                                    etc

                                    Ever watch the old Mike Rowe series, Dirty Jobs? Lots of dirty and dangerous jobs out there. Some of them pay pretty well.

                                    As for bricklayers, concrete finishers, roofers and the like, those are physically demanding jobs, but the money can be pretty good. I don't think you can compare those jobs to things like agriculture work.

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                                    George K
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                                    #17

                                    @jolly said in Albanil:

                                    Ever watch the old Mike Rowe series, Dirty Jobs?

                                    It's coming back, btw.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                                    JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
                                    • George KG George K

                                      @jolly said in Albanil:

                                      Ever watch the old Mike Rowe series, Dirty Jobs?

                                      It's coming back, btw.

                                      JollyJ Offline
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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on last edited by Jolly
                                      #18

                                      @george-k said in Albanil:

                                      @jolly said in Albanil:

                                      Ever watch the old Mike Rowe series, Dirty Jobs?

                                      It's coming back, btw.

                                      I enjoy the series. Wonder if he'll still try to do the jobs?

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        @george-k said in Albanil:

                                        @jolly said in Albanil:

                                        Ever watch the old Mike Rowe series, Dirty Jobs?

                                        It's coming back, btw.

                                        I enjoy the series. Wonder if he'll still try to do the jobs?

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #19

                                        @jolly

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          #20

                                          I wonder if he'll try to do 'middle manager in an engineering firm'.

                                          Actually, Mike Rowe is probably not the best choice for that, they'd be better off using Wayne Carr.

                                          I was only joking

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