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  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

    @jolly said in Albanil:

    Watching a crew of bricklayers today (BTW, never call a mason a bricklayer, that's an insult. It's like calling a furniture maker a carpenter.), I noticed not a single person spoke English.

    For most places around the country it's about 50/50, white/hispanic.

    Doctor PhibesD Online
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    Doctor Phibes
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    #8

    @aqua-letifer said in Albanil:

    @jolly said in Albanil:

    Watching a crew of bricklayers today (BTW, never call a mason a bricklayer, that's an insult. It's like calling a furniture maker a carpenter.), I noticed not a single person spoke English.

    For most places around the country it's about 50/50, white/hispanic.

    In England all the brickies are Polish. At least, they were the last time I visited.

    I shudder to think what's going to happen when they can't get well-motivated immigrants to do the job.

    I was only joking

    AxtremusA 1 Reply Last reply
    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      @aqua-letifer said in Albanil:

      @jolly said in Albanil:

      Watching a crew of bricklayers today (BTW, never call a mason a bricklayer, that's an insult. It's like calling a furniture maker a carpenter.), I noticed not a single person spoke English.

      For most places around the country it's about 50/50, white/hispanic.

      In England all the brickies are Polish. At least, they were the last time I visited.

      I shudder to think what's going to happen when they can't get well-motivated immigrants to do the job.

      AxtremusA Away
      AxtremusA Away
      Axtremus
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      #9

      @doctor-phibes said in Albanil:

      I shudder to think what's going to happen when they can't get well-motivated immigrants to do the job.

      Height wages for citizens to do some of the jobs, leave the other jobs not done, until robot technology catches up.

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      • AxtremusA Axtremus

        @doctor-phibes said in Albanil:

        I shudder to think what's going to happen when they can't get well-motivated immigrants to do the job.

        Height wages for citizens to do some of the jobs, leave the other jobs not done, until robot technology catches up.

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        Aqua Letifer
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        #10

        @axtremus said in Albanil:

        until robot technology catches up.

        That's a very, very long way off for many types of masonry.

        Please love yourself.

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        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

          @jolly said in Albanil:

          Watching a crew of bricklayers today (BTW, never call a mason a bricklayer, that's an insult. It's like calling a furniture maker a carpenter.), I noticed not a single person spoke English.

          For most places around the country it's about 50/50, white/hispanic.

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          Jolly
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          #11

          @aqua-letifer said in Albanil:

          @jolly said in Albanil:

          Watching a crew of bricklayers today (BTW, never call a mason a bricklayer, that's an insult. It's like calling a furniture maker a carpenter.), I noticed not a single person spoke English.

          For most places around the country it's about 50/50, white/hispanic.

          Down here, as recent as the 90's, it was about 70/30, with most of the brick and concrete guys being
          black.

          My question us what happened to the guys who used to do these jobs? They became accountants?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

          George KG 1 Reply Last reply
          • JollyJ Jolly

            @aqua-letifer said in Albanil:

            @jolly said in Albanil:

            Watching a crew of bricklayers today (BTW, never call a mason a bricklayer, that's an insult. It's like calling a furniture maker a carpenter.), I noticed not a single person spoke English.

            For most places around the country it's about 50/50, white/hispanic.

            Down here, as recent as the 90's, it was about 70/30, with most of the brick and concrete guys being
            black.

            My question us what happened to the guys who used to do these jobs? They became accountants?

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            George K
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            #12

            @jolly said in Albanil:

            My question us what happened to the guys who used to do these jobs? They became accountants?

            They learned to code?

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              @jolly said in Albanil:

              My question us what happened to the guys who used to do these jobs? They became accountants?

              They learned to code?

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              Jolly
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              #13

              @george-k said in Albanil:

              @jolly said in Albanil:

              My question us what happened to the guys who used to do these jobs? They became accountants?

              They learned to code?

              <SNORT>

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                @doctor-phibes said in Albanil:

                I shudder to think what's going to happen when they can't get well-motivated immigrants to do the job.

                Height wages for citizens to do some of the jobs, leave the other jobs not done, until robot technology catches up.

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                Catseye3
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                #14

                @axtremus said in Albanil:

                Height wages for citizens to do some of the jobs --

                This will be patchy because I don't remember key details, but:

                Down South, Georgia, Alabama, somewhere thereabouts, some bureaucrat, the governor maybe, did something to drive away the migrant labor who heretofore had harvested the peaches (?) Result: The crop rotted on the ground. Possibly because welfare paid better than migrant wages.

                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                • taiwan_girlT Online
                  taiwan_girlT Online
                  taiwan_girl
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                  #15

                  In Japan, there is a description for a certain type of job.

                  They are called 3K - which the English translation is

                  dirty
                  dangerous
                  demeaning

                  Who takes those jobs? Immigrants.

                  I think there is a version like this all over the world.

                  In the US, it is the Spanish people
                  In Thailand, the Burmese
                  In Taiwan, mainly mainland Chinese
                  etc

                  JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                    In Japan, there is a description for a certain type of job.

                    They are called 3K - which the English translation is

                    dirty
                    dangerous
                    demeaning

                    Who takes those jobs? Immigrants.

                    I think there is a version like this all over the world.

                    In the US, it is the Spanish people
                    In Thailand, the Burmese
                    In Taiwan, mainly mainland Chinese
                    etc

                    JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
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                    #16

                    @taiwan_girl said in Albanil:

                    In Japan, there is a description for a certain type of job.

                    They are called 3K - which the English translation is

                    dirty
                    dangerous
                    demeaning

                    Who takes those jobs? Immigrants.

                    I think there is a version like this all over the world.

                    In the US, it is the Spanish people
                    In Thailand, the Burmese
                    In Taiwan, mainly mainland Chinese
                    etc

                    Ever watch the old Mike Rowe series, Dirty Jobs? Lots of dirty and dangerous jobs out there. Some of them pay pretty well.

                    As for bricklayers, concrete finishers, roofers and the like, those are physically demanding jobs, but the money can be pretty good. I don't think you can compare those jobs to things like agriculture work.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                    George KG Aqua LetiferA 2 Replies Last reply
                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      @taiwan_girl said in Albanil:

                      In Japan, there is a description for a certain type of job.

                      They are called 3K - which the English translation is

                      dirty
                      dangerous
                      demeaning

                      Who takes those jobs? Immigrants.

                      I think there is a version like this all over the world.

                      In the US, it is the Spanish people
                      In Thailand, the Burmese
                      In Taiwan, mainly mainland Chinese
                      etc

                      Ever watch the old Mike Rowe series, Dirty Jobs? Lots of dirty and dangerous jobs out there. Some of them pay pretty well.

                      As for bricklayers, concrete finishers, roofers and the like, those are physically demanding jobs, but the money can be pretty good. I don't think you can compare those jobs to things like agriculture work.

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                      George K
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                      #17

                      @jolly said in Albanil:

                      Ever watch the old Mike Rowe series, Dirty Jobs?

                      It's coming back, btw.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                      JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
                      • George KG George K

                        @jolly said in Albanil:

                        Ever watch the old Mike Rowe series, Dirty Jobs?

                        It's coming back, btw.

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by Jolly
                        #18

                        @george-k said in Albanil:

                        @jolly said in Albanil:

                        Ever watch the old Mike Rowe series, Dirty Jobs?

                        It's coming back, btw.

                        I enjoy the series. Wonder if he'll still try to do the jobs?

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                        George KG 1 Reply Last reply
                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          @george-k said in Albanil:

                          @jolly said in Albanil:

                          Ever watch the old Mike Rowe series, Dirty Jobs?

                          It's coming back, btw.

                          I enjoy the series. Wonder if he'll still try to do the jobs?

                          George KG Offline
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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #19

                          @jolly

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #20

                            I wonder if he'll try to do 'middle manager in an engineering firm'.

                            Actually, Mike Rowe is probably not the best choice for that, they'd be better off using Wayne Carr.

                            I was only joking

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              @taiwan_girl said in Albanil:

                              In Japan, there is a description for a certain type of job.

                              They are called 3K - which the English translation is

                              dirty
                              dangerous
                              demeaning

                              Who takes those jobs? Immigrants.

                              I think there is a version like this all over the world.

                              In the US, it is the Spanish people
                              In Thailand, the Burmese
                              In Taiwan, mainly mainland Chinese
                              etc

                              Ever watch the old Mike Rowe series, Dirty Jobs? Lots of dirty and dangerous jobs out there. Some of them pay pretty well.

                              As for bricklayers, concrete finishers, roofers and the like, those are physically demanding jobs, but the money can be pretty good. I don't think you can compare those jobs to things like agriculture work.

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                              Aqua Letifer
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                              #21

                              @jolly said in Albanil:

                              As for bricklayers, concrete finishers, roofers and the like, those are physically demanding jobs, but the money can be pretty good.

                              It's a bit of a trap, though. A buddy of mine is some kind of specialist window installer. Money's good but a hernia and subsequent surgery put him out of work for about 2 weeks. Problem is, it'll be hard for him to change professions.

                              Please love yourself.

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                                Doctor Phibes
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                                #22

                                The people I know who do this kind of work frequently seem to end up with physical issues. When you hit 50, it's not the same.

                                I was only joking

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                                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                  @jolly said in Albanil:

                                  As for bricklayers, concrete finishers, roofers and the like, those are physically demanding jobs, but the money can be pretty good.

                                  It's a bit of a trap, though. A buddy of mine is some kind of specialist window installer. Money's good but a hernia and subsequent surgery put him out of work for about 2 weeks. Problem is, it'll be hard for him to change professions.

                                  JollyJ Offline
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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #23

                                  @aqua-letifer said in Albanil:

                                  @jolly said in Albanil:

                                  As for bricklayers, concrete finishers, roofers and the like, those are physically demanding jobs, but the money can be pretty good.

                                  It's a bit of a trap, though. A buddy of mine is some kind of specialist window installer. Money's good but a hernia and subsequent surgery put him out of work for about 2 weeks. Problem is, it'll be hard for him to change professions.

                                  My niece married a guy who did that. He later started his own company in Florida and has done pretty durn well.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    @aqua-letifer said in Albanil:

                                    @jolly said in Albanil:

                                    As for bricklayers, concrete finishers, roofers and the like, those are physically demanding jobs, but the money can be pretty good.

                                    It's a bit of a trap, though. A buddy of mine is some kind of specialist window installer. Money's good but a hernia and subsequent surgery put him out of work for about 2 weeks. Problem is, it'll be hard for him to change professions.

                                    My niece married a guy who did that. He later started his own company in Florida and has done pretty durn well.

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                                    Aqua Letifer
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                                    #24

                                    @jolly said in Albanil:

                                    @aqua-letifer said in Albanil:

                                    @jolly said in Albanil:

                                    As for bricklayers, concrete finishers, roofers and the like, those are physically demanding jobs, but the money can be pretty good.

                                    It's a bit of a trap, though. A buddy of mine is some kind of specialist window installer. Money's good but a hernia and subsequent surgery put him out of work for about 2 weeks. Problem is, it'll be hard for him to change professions.

                                    My niece married a guy who did that. He later started his own company in Florida and has done pretty durn well.

                                    Yeah, I hear that's what a lot of guys do. It can work out really well, but I've heard that for every 1 person who made that leap, there are 3 or 4 who failed at it. Mostly it's because running a business requires an entirely different set of skills that you gotta develop an aptitude for, or you'll sink. Seems a lot of folks don't know that going in.

                                    Please love yourself.

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