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  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

    @jolly said in Albanil:

    Watching a crew of bricklayers today (BTW, never call a mason a bricklayer, that's an insult. It's like calling a furniture maker a carpenter.), I noticed not a single person spoke English.

    For most places around the country it's about 50/50, white/hispanic.

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    @aqua-letifer said in Albanil:

    @jolly said in Albanil:

    Watching a crew of bricklayers today (BTW, never call a mason a bricklayer, that's an insult. It's like calling a furniture maker a carpenter.), I noticed not a single person spoke English.

    For most places around the country it's about 50/50, white/hispanic.

    Down here, as recent as the 90's, it was about 70/30, with most of the brick and concrete guys being
    black.

    My question us what happened to the guys who used to do these jobs? They became accountants?

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      @aqua-letifer said in Albanil:

      @jolly said in Albanil:

      Watching a crew of bricklayers today (BTW, never call a mason a bricklayer, that's an insult. It's like calling a furniture maker a carpenter.), I noticed not a single person spoke English.

      For most places around the country it's about 50/50, white/hispanic.

      Down here, as recent as the 90's, it was about 70/30, with most of the brick and concrete guys being
      black.

      My question us what happened to the guys who used to do these jobs? They became accountants?

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      @jolly said in Albanil:

      My question us what happened to the guys who used to do these jobs? They became accountants?

      They learned to code?

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG George K

        @jolly said in Albanil:

        My question us what happened to the guys who used to do these jobs? They became accountants?

        They learned to code?

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        @george-k said in Albanil:

        @jolly said in Albanil:

        My question us what happened to the guys who used to do these jobs? They became accountants?

        They learned to code?

        <SNORT>

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • AxtremusA Axtremus

          @doctor-phibes said in Albanil:

          I shudder to think what's going to happen when they can't get well-motivated immigrants to do the job.

          Height wages for citizens to do some of the jobs, leave the other jobs not done, until robot technology catches up.

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          @axtremus said in Albanil:

          Height wages for citizens to do some of the jobs --

          This will be patchy because I don't remember key details, but:

          Down South, Georgia, Alabama, somewhere thereabouts, some bureaucrat, the governor maybe, did something to drive away the migrant labor who heretofore had harvested the peaches (?) Result: The crop rotted on the ground. Possibly because welfare paid better than migrant wages.

          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          • taiwan_girlT Online
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            taiwan_girl
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            #15

            In Japan, there is a description for a certain type of job.

            They are called 3K - which the English translation is

            dirty
            dangerous
            demeaning

            Who takes those jobs? Immigrants.

            I think there is a version like this all over the world.

            In the US, it is the Spanish people
            In Thailand, the Burmese
            In Taiwan, mainly mainland Chinese
            etc

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            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

              In Japan, there is a description for a certain type of job.

              They are called 3K - which the English translation is

              dirty
              dangerous
              demeaning

              Who takes those jobs? Immigrants.

              I think there is a version like this all over the world.

              In the US, it is the Spanish people
              In Thailand, the Burmese
              In Taiwan, mainly mainland Chinese
              etc

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              @taiwan_girl said in Albanil:

              In Japan, there is a description for a certain type of job.

              They are called 3K - which the English translation is

              dirty
              dangerous
              demeaning

              Who takes those jobs? Immigrants.

              I think there is a version like this all over the world.

              In the US, it is the Spanish people
              In Thailand, the Burmese
              In Taiwan, mainly mainland Chinese
              etc

              Ever watch the old Mike Rowe series, Dirty Jobs? Lots of dirty and dangerous jobs out there. Some of them pay pretty well.

              As for bricklayers, concrete finishers, roofers and the like, those are physically demanding jobs, but the money can be pretty good. I don't think you can compare those jobs to things like agriculture work.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                @taiwan_girl said in Albanil:

                In Japan, there is a description for a certain type of job.

                They are called 3K - which the English translation is

                dirty
                dangerous
                demeaning

                Who takes those jobs? Immigrants.

                I think there is a version like this all over the world.

                In the US, it is the Spanish people
                In Thailand, the Burmese
                In Taiwan, mainly mainland Chinese
                etc

                Ever watch the old Mike Rowe series, Dirty Jobs? Lots of dirty and dangerous jobs out there. Some of them pay pretty well.

                As for bricklayers, concrete finishers, roofers and the like, those are physically demanding jobs, but the money can be pretty good. I don't think you can compare those jobs to things like agriculture work.

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                @jolly said in Albanil:

                Ever watch the old Mike Rowe series, Dirty Jobs?

                It's coming back, btw.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • George KG George K

                  @jolly said in Albanil:

                  Ever watch the old Mike Rowe series, Dirty Jobs?

                  It's coming back, btw.

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                  @george-k said in Albanil:

                  @jolly said in Albanil:

                  Ever watch the old Mike Rowe series, Dirty Jobs?

                  It's coming back, btw.

                  I enjoy the series. Wonder if he'll still try to do the jobs?

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    @george-k said in Albanil:

                    @jolly said in Albanil:

                    Ever watch the old Mike Rowe series, Dirty Jobs?

                    It's coming back, btw.

                    I enjoy the series. Wonder if he'll still try to do the jobs?

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                    #19

                    @jolly

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      I wonder if he'll try to do 'middle manager in an engineering firm'.

                      Actually, Mike Rowe is probably not the best choice for that, they'd be better off using Wayne Carr.

                      I was only joking

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        @taiwan_girl said in Albanil:

                        In Japan, there is a description for a certain type of job.

                        They are called 3K - which the English translation is

                        dirty
                        dangerous
                        demeaning

                        Who takes those jobs? Immigrants.

                        I think there is a version like this all over the world.

                        In the US, it is the Spanish people
                        In Thailand, the Burmese
                        In Taiwan, mainly mainland Chinese
                        etc

                        Ever watch the old Mike Rowe series, Dirty Jobs? Lots of dirty and dangerous jobs out there. Some of them pay pretty well.

                        As for bricklayers, concrete finishers, roofers and the like, those are physically demanding jobs, but the money can be pretty good. I don't think you can compare those jobs to things like agriculture work.

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                        @jolly said in Albanil:

                        As for bricklayers, concrete finishers, roofers and the like, those are physically demanding jobs, but the money can be pretty good.

                        It's a bit of a trap, though. A buddy of mine is some kind of specialist window installer. Money's good but a hernia and subsequent surgery put him out of work for about 2 weeks. Problem is, it'll be hard for him to change professions.

                        Please love yourself.

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                          The people I know who do this kind of work frequently seem to end up with physical issues. When you hit 50, it's not the same.

                          I was only joking

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                          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                            @jolly said in Albanil:

                            As for bricklayers, concrete finishers, roofers and the like, those are physically demanding jobs, but the money can be pretty good.

                            It's a bit of a trap, though. A buddy of mine is some kind of specialist window installer. Money's good but a hernia and subsequent surgery put him out of work for about 2 weeks. Problem is, it'll be hard for him to change professions.

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                            @aqua-letifer said in Albanil:

                            @jolly said in Albanil:

                            As for bricklayers, concrete finishers, roofers and the like, those are physically demanding jobs, but the money can be pretty good.

                            It's a bit of a trap, though. A buddy of mine is some kind of specialist window installer. Money's good but a hernia and subsequent surgery put him out of work for about 2 weeks. Problem is, it'll be hard for him to change professions.

                            My niece married a guy who did that. He later started his own company in Florida and has done pretty durn well.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              @aqua-letifer said in Albanil:

                              @jolly said in Albanil:

                              As for bricklayers, concrete finishers, roofers and the like, those are physically demanding jobs, but the money can be pretty good.

                              It's a bit of a trap, though. A buddy of mine is some kind of specialist window installer. Money's good but a hernia and subsequent surgery put him out of work for about 2 weeks. Problem is, it'll be hard for him to change professions.

                              My niece married a guy who did that. He later started his own company in Florida and has done pretty durn well.

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                              Aqua Letifer
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                              @jolly said in Albanil:

                              @aqua-letifer said in Albanil:

                              @jolly said in Albanil:

                              As for bricklayers, concrete finishers, roofers and the like, those are physically demanding jobs, but the money can be pretty good.

                              It's a bit of a trap, though. A buddy of mine is some kind of specialist window installer. Money's good but a hernia and subsequent surgery put him out of work for about 2 weeks. Problem is, it'll be hard for him to change professions.

                              My niece married a guy who did that. He later started his own company in Florida and has done pretty durn well.

                              Yeah, I hear that's what a lot of guys do. It can work out really well, but I've heard that for every 1 person who made that leap, there are 3 or 4 who failed at it. Mostly it's because running a business requires an entirely different set of skills that you gotta develop an aptitude for, or you'll sink. Seems a lot of folks don't know that going in.

                              Please love yourself.

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