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The Astra-Zeneca vaccine has problems

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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    Right now you are dealing with a statistically significant portion of the population in Europe (and the US) that is very nervous about any COVID vaccine. Continuing to push on approval for a vaccine that is getting this bad press can cause more damage to the overall vaccination effort than benefit. Let the processes work and show confidence in those processes.

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    @lufins-dad said in The Astra-Zeneca vaccine has problems:

    Right now you are dealing with a statistically significant portion of the population in Europe (and the US) that is very nervous about any COVID vaccine. Continuing to push on approval for a vaccine that is getting this bad press can cause more damage to the overall vaccination effort than benefit. Let the processes work and show confidence in those processes.

    The panic is based out of complete ignorance on the part of those concerned. The vaccine is new to them, so they're freaking the hell out. But none of the technology is new. Literally at all. It'd be like being afraid of buying a 2022 model Camry because you just now learned that cars run off of a combustion engine, and explosions scare you.

    Please love yourself.

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      Vaccine passports takes care of this very nicely. We’ve tried coaxing. Time to move on or all our lives and livelihoods will be majorly impacted.

      Enough already.

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        @loki said in The Astra-Zeneca vaccine has problems:

        We’ve tried coaxing.

        The vast majority of Americans haven't even had the opportunity to make an appointment. Many states are still in 1C.

        Please love yourself.

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        • L Loki

          Vaccine passports takes care of this very nicely. We’ve tried coaxing. Time to move on or all our lives and livelihoods will be majorly impacted.

          Enough already.

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          LuFins Dad
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          @loki said in The Astra-Zeneca vaccine has problems:

          Vaccine passports takes care of this very nicely. We’ve tried coaxing. Time to move on or all our lives and livelihoods will be majorly impacted.

          Enough already.

          95% efficacy vs getting the disease, and 100% efficacy against anything beyond mild cold symptoms. Get your vaccine when you are able, wait your 30 days for full efficacy, then lead your life without any concerns. If somebody chooses to not get theirs, then that is on them. If they want to risk it, it’s their call. Who cares?

          The Brad

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            Re the above, it seems to me if approval isn’t imminent they should send them to Canada with the idea that Canada will redirect equivalent numbers back here once we do approve.

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            Axtremus
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            @jon-nyc said in The Astra-Zeneca vaccine has problems:

            Re the above, it seems to me if approval isn’t imminent they should send them to Canada with the idea that Canada will redirect equivalent numbers back here once we do approve.

            https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-mexico-idUSKBN2BA22S

            “U.S. to share 4 million doses of AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine with Mexico, Canada”

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              jon-nyc
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              #39

              Nice! (Shoulda happened a couple of weeks ago, glad the press shined light on it, that probably made a difference)

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                @loki said in The Astra-Zeneca vaccine has problems:

                Vaccine passports takes care of this very nicely. We’ve tried coaxing. Time to move on or all our lives and livelihoods will be majorly impacted.

                Enough already.

                95% efficacy vs getting the disease, and 100% efficacy against anything beyond mild cold symptoms. Get your vaccine when you are able, wait your 30 days for full efficacy, then lead your life without any concerns. If somebody chooses to not get theirs, then that is on them. If they want to risk it, it’s their call. Who cares?

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                @lufins-dad said in The Astra-Zeneca vaccine has problems:

                @loki said in The Astra-Zeneca vaccine has problems:

                Vaccine passports takes care of this very nicely. We’ve tried coaxing. Time to move on or all our lives and livelihoods will be majorly impacted.

                Enough already.

                95% efficacy vs getting the disease, and 100% efficacy against anything beyond mild cold symptoms. Get your vaccine when you are able, wait your 30 days for full efficacy, then lead your life without any concerns. If somebody chooses to not get theirs, then that is on them. If they want to risk it, it’s their call. Who cares?

                Works for me...

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  #41

                  If somebody offered me the chance, I'd tear their arm off.

                  It's maybe a little early to be pointing the finger of self-righteous fury at people who haven't been vaccinated. I'm still silently and busily mouthing 'wanker' at people shopping without a mask on. If nothing else, wearing a mask is great for dealing with irritation.

                  I was only joking

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                    W00t!! I'm scheduled for next Thursday at. . . Safeway just down the street!
                    I don't have to go to the airport or convention center.
                    I checked every day, and the calendar for getting the shot at any local pharmacy was always grayed out for March and April. But last night, there was one date that was green, and I grabbed it.
                    Damn good, eh? Doo-wat-doo-wat!!

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                    • RainmanR Rainman

                      W00t!! I'm scheduled for next Thursday at. . . Safeway just down the street!
                      I don't have to go to the airport or convention center.
                      I checked every day, and the calendar for getting the shot at any local pharmacy was always grayed out for March and April. But last night, there was one date that was green, and I grabbed it.
                      Damn good, eh? Doo-wat-doo-wat!!

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                      @rainman said in The Astra-Zeneca vaccine has problems:

                      W00t!! I'm scheduled for next Thursday at. . . Safeway just down the street!
                      I don't have to go to the airport or convention center.
                      I checked every day, and the calendar for getting the shot at any local pharmacy was always grayed out for March and April. But last night, there was one date that was green, and I grabbed it.
                      Damn good, eh? Doo-wat-doo-wat!!

                      Excellent, Rainman! So glad to hear this.

                      Maybe take a day off after it. I had mine yesterday in the late afternoon. By last night, I had a slight temp, fatigue, and lots of aches. Today is better, but still not great.

                      You also get to have a chocolate malt after the shot. That's what happened here.

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                      • brendaB brenda

                        @rainman said in The Astra-Zeneca vaccine has problems:

                        W00t!! I'm scheduled for next Thursday at. . . Safeway just down the street!
                        I don't have to go to the airport or convention center.
                        I checked every day, and the calendar for getting the shot at any local pharmacy was always grayed out for March and April. But last night, there was one date that was green, and I grabbed it.
                        Damn good, eh? Doo-wat-doo-wat!!

                        Excellent, Rainman! So glad to hear this.

                        Maybe take a day off after it. I had mine yesterday in the late afternoon. By last night, I had a slight temp, fatigue, and lots of aches. Today is better, but still not great.

                        You also get to have a chocolate malt after the shot. That's what happened here.

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                        I should add that hubby is having the same reaction. He also had the malt. 🙂

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                          Brenda, I didn't think of that. Taking a day off because. . .

                          So, it's possible that I will feel really lousy, for days.

                          I really do deserve a mild reaction.

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                          • RainmanR Rainman

                            W00t!! I'm scheduled for next Thursday at. . . Safeway just down the street!
                            I don't have to go to the airport or convention center.
                            I checked every day, and the calendar for getting the shot at any local pharmacy was always grayed out for March and April. But last night, there was one date that was green, and I grabbed it.
                            Damn good, eh? Doo-wat-doo-wat!!

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                            jon-nyc
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                            @rainman Cool! I’ll be getting #2 that same day.

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                              Horace
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                              I get a number 2 almost every day.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                The seven people I know who've had the Oxford-AZ vaccine all felt a little grotty next day, as warned.
                                I had my jab yesterday and this morning feel a bit achey, bit headachey, generally weary.

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                                • RainmanR Rainman

                                  Brenda, I didn't think of that. Taking a day off because. . .

                                  So, it's possible that I will feel really lousy, for days.

                                  I really do deserve a mild reaction.

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                                  @rainman said in The Astra-Zeneca vaccine has problems:

                                  Brenda, I didn't think of that. Taking a day off because. . .

                                  So, it's possible that I will feel really lousy, for days.

                                  I really do deserve a mild reaction.

                                  Nah, I doubt you'll feel lousy for days, probably more like a couple days at most. That's why you should have the malt. I recommend chocolate.

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                                  • A AndyD

                                    The seven people I know who've had the Oxford-AZ vaccine all felt a little grotty next day, as warned.
                                    I had my jab yesterday and this morning feel a bit achey, bit headachey, generally weary.

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                                    @andyd said in The Astra-Zeneca vaccine has problems:

                                    The seven people I know who've had the Oxford-AZ vaccine all felt a little grotty next day, as warned.
                                    I had my jab yesterday and this morning feel a bit achey, bit headachey, generally weary.

                                    A chocolate malt does wonders for that. We ordered curbside service to get ours. Yes, you can get it delivered to your vehicle. Extra chocolate, too. 🙂

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                                    • brendaB brenda

                                      @rainman said in The Astra-Zeneca vaccine has problems:

                                      Brenda, I didn't think of that. Taking a day off because. . .

                                      So, it's possible that I will feel really lousy, for days.

                                      I really do deserve a mild reaction.

                                      Nah, I doubt you'll feel lousy for days, probably more like a couple days at most. That's why you should have the malt. I recommend chocolate.

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                                      Mik
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                                      @brenda said in The Astra-Zeneca vaccine has problems:

                                      @rainman said in The Astra-Zeneca vaccine has problems:

                                      Brenda, I didn't think of that. Taking a day off because. . .

                                      So, it's possible that I will feel really lousy, for days.

                                      I really do deserve a mild reaction.

                                      Nah, I doubt you'll feel lousy for days, probably more like a couple days at most. That's why you should have the malt. I recommend chocolate.

                                      I recommend single.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        What is going on with AZ? Why do they keep tripping over their own ****?

                                        https://apple.news/AOFxYo-DLQ16wF5XYzXtGug

                                        The Brad

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                                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                          What is going on with AZ? Why do they keep tripping over their own ****?

                                          https://apple.news/AOFxYo-DLQ16wF5XYzXtGug

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                                          @lufins-dad said in The Astra-Zeneca vaccine has problems:

                                          What is going on with AZ? Why do they keep tripping over their own ****?

                                          https://apple.news/AOFxYo-DLQ16wF5XYzXtGug

                                          LOL when I saw this article I thought of your prior notes on AZ

                                          If there is not enough vaccine to put in arms, the choice is covid death vs regulatory compliance. Choose and live or die with it.

                                          And tell everyone more people are dying because of the choice to delay or cause more distrust.

                                          It’s easy.

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