The Astra-Zeneca vaccine has problems
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I get you - but I didn't realize that Europe is the beating heart of anti-vax sentiment.
The reports of the AZ thing are things like "a person got a shot then a few days later got a brain bleed". With social media - all it takes is a few anecdotes to make a story.
With millions of people getting vaccinated - you'll always be able to connect dots.
I just haven't seen the data to say that the reported things weren't coincidence.
I think officials suspending an approved vaccine without clear evidence feeds into undermining confidence.
But I do get what you're saying LD - you have to keep trust as high as possible. This is a tough one.
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Right now you are dealing with a statistically significant portion of the population in Europe (and the US) that is very nervous about any COVID vaccine. Continuing to push on approval for a vaccine that is getting this bad press can cause more damage to the overall vaccination effort than benefit. Let the processes work and show confidence in those processes.
@lufins-dad said in The Astra-Zeneca vaccine has problems:
Right now you are dealing with a statistically significant portion of the population in Europe (and the US) that is very nervous about any COVID vaccine. Continuing to push on approval for a vaccine that is getting this bad press can cause more damage to the overall vaccination effort than benefit. Let the processes work and show confidence in those processes.
The panic is based out of complete ignorance on the part of those concerned. The vaccine is new to them, so they're freaking the hell out. But none of the technology is new. Literally at all. It'd be like being afraid of buying a 2022 model Camry because you just now learned that cars run off of a combustion engine, and explosions scare you.
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@loki said in The Astra-Zeneca vaccine has problems:
We’ve tried coaxing.
The vast majority of Americans haven't even had the opportunity to make an appointment. Many states are still in 1C.
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Vaccine passports takes care of this very nicely. We’ve tried coaxing. Time to move on or all our lives and livelihoods will be majorly impacted.
Enough already.
@loki said in The Astra-Zeneca vaccine has problems:
Vaccine passports takes care of this very nicely. We’ve tried coaxing. Time to move on or all our lives and livelihoods will be majorly impacted.
Enough already.
95% efficacy vs getting the disease, and 100% efficacy against anything beyond mild cold symptoms. Get your vaccine when you are able, wait your 30 days for full efficacy, then lead your life without any concerns. If somebody chooses to not get theirs, then that is on them. If they want to risk it, it’s their call. Who cares?
The Brad
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Re the above, it seems to me if approval isn’t imminent they should send them to Canada with the idea that Canada will redirect equivalent numbers back here once we do approve.
@jon-nyc said in The Astra-Zeneca vaccine has problems:
Re the above, it seems to me if approval isn’t imminent they should send them to Canada with the idea that Canada will redirect equivalent numbers back here once we do approve.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-mexico-idUSKBN2BA22S
“U.S. to share 4 million doses of AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine with Mexico, Canada”
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@loki said in The Astra-Zeneca vaccine has problems:
Vaccine passports takes care of this very nicely. We’ve tried coaxing. Time to move on or all our lives and livelihoods will be majorly impacted.
Enough already.
95% efficacy vs getting the disease, and 100% efficacy against anything beyond mild cold symptoms. Get your vaccine when you are able, wait your 30 days for full efficacy, then lead your life without any concerns. If somebody chooses to not get theirs, then that is on them. If they want to risk it, it’s their call. Who cares?
@lufins-dad said in The Astra-Zeneca vaccine has problems:
@loki said in The Astra-Zeneca vaccine has problems:
Vaccine passports takes care of this very nicely. We’ve tried coaxing. Time to move on or all our lives and livelihoods will be majorly impacted.
Enough already.
95% efficacy vs getting the disease, and 100% efficacy against anything beyond mild cold symptoms. Get your vaccine when you are able, wait your 30 days for full efficacy, then lead your life without any concerns. If somebody chooses to not get theirs, then that is on them. If they want to risk it, it’s their call. Who cares?
Works for me...
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If somebody offered me the chance, I'd tear their arm off.
It's maybe a little early to be pointing the finger of self-righteous fury at people who haven't been vaccinated. I'm still silently and busily mouthing 'wanker' at people shopping without a mask on. If nothing else, wearing a mask is great for dealing with irritation.
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W00t!! I'm scheduled for next Thursday at. . . Safeway just down the street!
I don't have to go to the airport or convention center.
I checked every day, and the calendar for getting the shot at any local pharmacy was always grayed out for March and April. But last night, there was one date that was green, and I grabbed it.
Damn good, eh? Doo-wat-doo-wat!! -
W00t!! I'm scheduled for next Thursday at. . . Safeway just down the street!
I don't have to go to the airport or convention center.
I checked every day, and the calendar for getting the shot at any local pharmacy was always grayed out for March and April. But last night, there was one date that was green, and I grabbed it.
Damn good, eh? Doo-wat-doo-wat!!@rainman said in The Astra-Zeneca vaccine has problems:
W00t!! I'm scheduled for next Thursday at. . . Safeway just down the street!
I don't have to go to the airport or convention center.
I checked every day, and the calendar for getting the shot at any local pharmacy was always grayed out for March and April. But last night, there was one date that was green, and I grabbed it.
Damn good, eh? Doo-wat-doo-wat!!Excellent, Rainman! So glad to hear this.
Maybe take a day off after it. I had mine yesterday in the late afternoon. By last night, I had a slight temp, fatigue, and lots of aches. Today is better, but still not great.
You also get to have a chocolate malt after the shot. That's what happened here.
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@rainman said in The Astra-Zeneca vaccine has problems:
W00t!! I'm scheduled for next Thursday at. . . Safeway just down the street!
I don't have to go to the airport or convention center.
I checked every day, and the calendar for getting the shot at any local pharmacy was always grayed out for March and April. But last night, there was one date that was green, and I grabbed it.
Damn good, eh? Doo-wat-doo-wat!!Excellent, Rainman! So glad to hear this.
Maybe take a day off after it. I had mine yesterday in the late afternoon. By last night, I had a slight temp, fatigue, and lots of aches. Today is better, but still not great.
You also get to have a chocolate malt after the shot. That's what happened here.
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W00t!! I'm scheduled for next Thursday at. . . Safeway just down the street!
I don't have to go to the airport or convention center.
I checked every day, and the calendar for getting the shot at any local pharmacy was always grayed out for March and April. But last night, there was one date that was green, and I grabbed it.
Damn good, eh? Doo-wat-doo-wat!! -
Brenda, I didn't think of that. Taking a day off because. . .
So, it's possible that I will feel really lousy, for days.
I really do deserve a mild reaction.
@rainman said in The Astra-Zeneca vaccine has problems:
Brenda, I didn't think of that. Taking a day off because. . .
So, it's possible that I will feel really lousy, for days.
I really do deserve a mild reaction.
Nah, I doubt you'll feel lousy for days, probably more like a couple days at most. That's why you should have the malt. I recommend chocolate.
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The seven people I know who've had the Oxford-AZ vaccine all felt a little grotty next day, as warned.
I had my jab yesterday and this morning feel a bit achey, bit headachey, generally weary.@andyd said in The Astra-Zeneca vaccine has problems:
The seven people I know who've had the Oxford-AZ vaccine all felt a little grotty next day, as warned.
I had my jab yesterday and this morning feel a bit achey, bit headachey, generally weary.A chocolate malt does wonders for that. We ordered curbside service to get ours. Yes, you can get it delivered to your vehicle. Extra chocolate, too.
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@rainman said in The Astra-Zeneca vaccine has problems:
Brenda, I didn't think of that. Taking a day off because. . .
So, it's possible that I will feel really lousy, for days.
I really do deserve a mild reaction.
Nah, I doubt you'll feel lousy for days, probably more like a couple days at most. That's why you should have the malt. I recommend chocolate.
@brenda said in The Astra-Zeneca vaccine has problems:
@rainman said in The Astra-Zeneca vaccine has problems:
Brenda, I didn't think of that. Taking a day off because. . .
So, it's possible that I will feel really lousy, for days.
I really do deserve a mild reaction.
Nah, I doubt you'll feel lousy for days, probably more like a couple days at most. That's why you should have the malt. I recommend chocolate.
I recommend single.
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What is going on with AZ? Why do they keep tripping over their own ****?
