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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • MikM Offline
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      Yeah, I’m seeing it too. Once again the conversation is all about rights and completely ignores responsibilities.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        It gets better crazier:

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Things must be getting better if we are debating the musings of the long end of the curve. So many people I’ve never heard of. People I respected when I was growing up used to say, who wrote this before they would read it.

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            So now Candace starts acting like a politician. Swell.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • George KG George K

              It gets better crazier:

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              @George-K said in This is all we need:

              It gets better crazier:

              If you look at all of this silly woman's Tweets, she thinks Covid is all a big con. Basically, she's got more opinions than brain cells, so she's perfect for Twitter.

              I was only joking

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              • L Loki

                Things must be getting better if we are debating the musings of the long end of the curve. So many people I’ve never heard of. People I respected when I was growing up used to say, who wrote this before they would read it.

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                @Loki

                It doesn’t matter what we think of them. It’s the number of people that adopt this particular behavior pattern that matters.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • MikM Offline
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                  They are going to flush every sacrifice that has been made right down the toilet.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Mik

                    They are going to flush every sacrifice that has been made right down the toilet.

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                    @Mik said in This is all we need:

                    They are going to flush every sacrifice that has been made right down the toilet.

                    (No, I didn't look at her tweets)

                    What I find surprising is that Owens has always struck me as being intelligent and well-spoken. I guess one can be intelligent and stupid at the same time. Now, she's just another anti-vax nutter.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      Yeah, I though the same thing. But now that she's running for office she's playing to the base. And I do mean base.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        I haven't looked at her other tweets either, but I have also seen some crazy other stuff from her, so I wouldn't be surprised if her tweet is meant to be taken literally, but there is some merit to the argument that an extremely rushed development and testing would lead to a potentially rather dangerous vaccine, simply because risks haven't been properly tested for. Every vaccine requires a good analysis of the risk/reward ratio. For many people, the COVID-19 risk isn't very high (compared to, say, measles or smallpox), hence it would be necessary to do a lot of analysis of its risks before recommending it for general use.

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                          @Mik said in This is all we need:

                          They are going to flush every sacrifice that has been made right down the toilet.

                          (No, I didn't look at her tweets)

                          What I find surprising is that Owens has always struck me as being intelligent and well-spoken. I guess one can be intelligent and stupid at the same time. Now, she's just another anti-vax nutter.

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                          @George-K said in This is all we need:

                          @Mik said in This is all we need:

                          They are going to flush every sacrifice that has been made right down the toilet.

                          (No, I didn't look at her tweets)

                          What I find surprising is that Owens has always struck me as being intelligent and well-spoken. I guess one can be intelligent and stupid at the same time. Now, she's just another anti-vax nutter.

                          As far as I can tell, she's a political activist who's now decided to run for office.

                          Whatever happened to people getting actual jobs?

                          I was only joking

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                            Klaus - I don’t think she’s adopted the attitude out of safety concerns, I think it’s more about ‘owning the libs’. Or something like that.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • MikM Mik

                              They are going to flush every sacrifice that has been made right down the toilet.

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                              @Mik said in This is all we need:

                              They are going to flush every sacrifice that has been made right down the toilet.

                              If these sorts of folk ruin the whole containment plan, then the plan sucked.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                Klaus - I don’t think she’s adopted the attitude out of safety concerns, I think it’s more about ‘owning the libs’. Or something like that.

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                                @jon-nyc said in This is all we need:

                                Klaus - I don’t think she’s adopted the attitude out of safety concerns, I think it’s more about ‘owning the libs’. Or something like that.

                                That may very well be true. But I observe that the vaccine discussions have become so polarized due to the "anti-vax" idiots that it has become difficult to have a real discussion about benefits and risks of vaccines. There are risks to vaccines (e.g., allergies), and for some vaccines the risks are in many cases more severe than the potential gain (such as for tubercolosis vaccines). That doesn't change the fact that the standard set of vaccines that children get these days are a blessing and a "no-brainer". But it would be a bad idea to proclaim that every vaccine is good and has no side-effects worth mentioning.

                                Over here, the Thalidomide/birth defect scandal is still very much in the public memory. There are good reasons for the long and expensive process to get a drug approved.

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                                  Yeah, our main law requiring manufacturers to prove safety came out of the thalidomide scandal. And it was much smaller here.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    @jon-nyc said in This is all we need:

                                    Klaus - I don’t think she’s adopted the attitude out of safety concerns, I think it’s more about ‘owning the libs’. Or something like that.

                                    That may very well be true. But I observe that the vaccine discussions have become so polarized due to the "anti-vax" idiots that it has become difficult to have a real discussion about benefits and risks of vaccines. There are risks to vaccines (e.g., allergies), and for some vaccines the risks are in many cases more severe than the potential gain (such as for tubercolosis vaccines). That doesn't change the fact that the standard set of vaccines that children get these days are a blessing and a "no-brainer". But it would be a bad idea to proclaim that every vaccine is good and has no side-effects worth mentioning.

                                    Over here, the Thalidomide/birth defect scandal is still very much in the public memory. There are good reasons for the long and expensive process to get a drug approved.

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                                    @Klaus at this point it doesn’t matter. Mob rule. I’m confident the vaccine will be made mandatory here.

                                    The Brad

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                                      I'm confident that party lines will be maintained.

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                                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                        @Klaus at this point it doesn’t matter. Mob rule. I’m confident the vaccine will be made mandatory here.

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                                        @LuFins-Dad said in This is all we need:

                                        @Klaus at this point it doesn’t matter. Mob rule. I’m confident the vaccine will be made mandatory here.

                                        I wouldn’t think so - maybe just for certain professions.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        • HoraceH Horace

                                          @Mik said in This is all we need:

                                          They are going to flush every sacrifice that has been made right down the toilet.

                                          If these sorts of folk ruin the whole containment plan, then the plan sucked.

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                                          @Horace said in This is all we need:

                                          @Mik said in This is all we need:

                                          They are going to flush every sacrifice that has been made right down the toilet.

                                          If these sorts of folk ruin the whole containment plan, then the plan sucked.

                                          It’s possible that all non-coercive plans suck, at least for this particular culture.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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