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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 23 Feb 2021, 23:18 last edited by
    #4

    I saw a very interesting tweet a while back, that combined this info with disease incidence by age cohort and also included some non-age-related groups.

    Combining this you could get to a very interesting number - how many people of such-and-such group need to be vaccinated in order to prevent one death?

    For certain age and comorbidity categories, it was less than 1000. For some of the so-called essential worker categories it was on the order of 30k.

    Only non-witches get due process.

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    • L Loki
      23 Feb 2021, 23:13

      https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/coronavirus-leading-through-the-crisis/charting-the-path-to-the-next-normal/people-over-75-are-1000-times-more-likely-to-die-from-covid-19-than-teenagers#

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      Loki
      wrote on 23 Feb 2021, 23:41 last edited by
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      60% of deaths are people older than 75. 80% over age 65.

      But we’ve known this forever. I’m quite sure the rates of death are greatly impacted by co-morbid conditions.

      If I were young I would have lots of questions around why I lost not only a year of my life but my job prospects too. Why didn’t the scientists and media truly focus on the most vulnerable?

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      • L Loki
        23 Feb 2021, 23:41

        60% of deaths are people older than 75. 80% over age 65.

        But we’ve known this forever. I’m quite sure the rates of death are greatly impacted by co-morbid conditions.

        If I were young I would have lots of questions around why I lost not only a year of my life but my job prospects too. Why didn’t the scientists and media truly focus on the most vulnerable?

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        Copper
        wrote on 23 Feb 2021, 23:46 last edited by
        #6

        @loki said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

        If I were young I would have lots of questions around why I lost not only a year of my life but my job prospects too. Why didn’t the scientists and media truly focus on the most vulnerable?

        Trump

        He had to look bad, nothing else mattered

        Really

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        • L Loki
          23 Feb 2021, 23:41

          60% of deaths are people older than 75. 80% over age 65.

          But we’ve known this forever. I’m quite sure the rates of death are greatly impacted by co-morbid conditions.

          If I were young I would have lots of questions around why I lost not only a year of my life but my job prospects too. Why didn’t the scientists and media truly focus on the most vulnerable?

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          George K
          wrote on 23 Feb 2021, 23:50 last edited by
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          @loki said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

          Why didn’t the scientists and media truly focus on the most vulnerable?

          This is a rhetorical question, right?

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            taiwan_girl
            wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 01:30 last edited by
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            I think one thing we are missing talking about in this forum thread is that it is not only dead people which are effected.

            Alot of people are sick and "recover" but still have problems.

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            • L Loki
              23 Feb 2021, 23:41

              60% of deaths are people older than 75. 80% over age 65.

              But we’ve known this forever. I’m quite sure the rates of death are greatly impacted by co-morbid conditions.

              If I were young I would have lots of questions around why I lost not only a year of my life but my job prospects too. Why didn’t the scientists and media truly focus on the most vulnerable?

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              Aqua Letifer
              wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 01:46 last edited by
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              @loki said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

              why I lost not only a year of my life

              That's horseshit. If some "young person" "lost a year of their life" it's their own fault and no one else's.

              Please love yourself.

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              • A Aqua Letifer
                24 Feb 2021, 01:46

                @loki said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                why I lost not only a year of my life

                That's horseshit. If some "young person" "lost a year of their life" it's their own fault and no one else's.

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                Horace
                wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 01:55 last edited by
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                @aqua-letifer said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                @loki said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                why I lost not only a year of my life

                That's horseshit. If some "young person" "lost a year of their life" it's their own fault and no one else's.

                Spoken like a true conservative.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 02:06 last edited by
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                  The people who lost a year of their lives are the folks we basically imprisoned in nursing and assisted living facilities.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • M Mik
                    24 Feb 2021, 02:06

                    The people who lost a year of their lives are the folks we basically imprisoned in nursing and assisted living facilities.

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                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 03:08 last edited by
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                    @mik said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                    The people who lost a year of their lives are the folks we basically imprisoned in nursing and assisted living facilities.

                    👆

                    But yeah, sure, let's vaccinate more young people and keep the older ones imprisoned, that really fucking helps everything.

                    Please love yourself.

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 03:17 last edited by
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                      They are starting to open things up in the homes We can now see my MIL again under controlled circumstances. But the damage this past year did to her is perhaps crueler than taking her chances.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 03:36 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                        #14

                        My two teenage children struggled, but neither lost a year of their lives, my son took a year out of college and worked, my daughter is in high school. The people who lost years of their lives are the ones who died.

                        I was only joking

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                        • C Copper
                          23 Feb 2021, 23:46

                          @loki said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                          If I were young I would have lots of questions around why I lost not only a year of my life but my job prospects too. Why didn’t the scientists and media truly focus on the most vulnerable?

                          Trump

                          He had to look bad, nothing else mattered

                          Really

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 03:39 last edited by
                          #15

                          @copper said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                          @loki said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                          If I were young I would have lots of questions around why I lost not only a year of my life but my job prospects too. Why didn’t the scientists and media truly focus on the most vulnerable?

                          Trump

                          He had to look bad, nothing else mattered

                          Really

                          Yeah, obviously that's why Europe went into lockdown. Donald Trump.

                          I was only joking

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                          • D Doctor Phibes
                            24 Feb 2021, 03:39

                            @copper said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                            @loki said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                            If I were young I would have lots of questions around why I lost not only a year of my life but my job prospects too. Why didn’t the scientists and media truly focus on the most vulnerable?

                            Trump

                            He had to look bad, nothing else mattered

                            Really

                            Yeah, obviously that's why Europe went into lockdown. Donald Trump.

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                            Copper
                            wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 16:07 last edited by
                            #16

                            @doctor-phibes said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                            @copper said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                            @loki said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                            If I were young I would have lots of questions around why I lost not only a year of my life but my job prospects too. Why didn’t the scientists and media truly focus on the most vulnerable?

                            Trump

                            He had to look bad, nothing else mattered

                            Really

                            Yeah, obviously that's why Europe went into lockdown. Donald Trump.

                            The question wasn't why lockdown.

                            It was about the focus.

                            In this country, and much of the world, the focus was Mr. Trump, all year long.

                            How many stories about the vulnerable were published last summer or fall? A few about the nursing homes in NY, but the focus of those was mostly the governor.

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                            • C Copper
                              24 Feb 2021, 16:07

                              @doctor-phibes said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                              @copper said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                              @loki said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                              If I were young I would have lots of questions around why I lost not only a year of my life but my job prospects too. Why didn’t the scientists and media truly focus on the most vulnerable?

                              Trump

                              He had to look bad, nothing else mattered

                              Really

                              Yeah, obviously that's why Europe went into lockdown. Donald Trump.

                              The question wasn't why lockdown.

                              It was about the focus.

                              In this country, and much of the world, the focus was Mr. Trump, all year long.

                              How many stories about the vulnerable were published last summer or fall? A few about the nursing homes in NY, but the focus of those was mostly the governor.

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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 16:13 last edited by
                              #17

                              @copper said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                              In this country, and much of the world, the focus was Mr. Trump, all year long.

                              Not when it came to the pandemic. The only time my British friends mentioned Trump really was to comfort themselves with the thought that whilst Bo-Jo is a complete plonker, it could always be worse.

                              I was only joking

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                              • D Doctor Phibes
                                24 Feb 2021, 16:13

                                @copper said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                                In this country, and much of the world, the focus was Mr. Trump, all year long.

                                Not when it came to the pandemic. The only time my British friends mentioned Trump really was to comfort themselves with the thought that whilst Bo-Jo is a complete plonker, it could always be worse.

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                                taiwan_girl
                                wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 18:16 last edited by
                                #18

                                @doctor-phibes said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                                @copper said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                                In this country, and much of the world, the focus was Mr. Trump, all year long.

                                Not when it came to the pandemic. The only time my British friends mentioned Trump really was to comfort themselves with the thought that whilst Bo-Jo is a complete plonker, it could always be worse.

                                Same in the Far East. President Trump was obviously in the news, but not really about the pandemic.

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                                • H Horace
                                  23 Feb 2021, 23:17

                                  Both my 80+ parents survived COVID without any real issue. Recovered in two weeks. With my dad on his death bed with cancer all across his body. It's a strange disease. There must be some genetic marker(s) that could tell us which among us are susceptible to bad cases.

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                                  mark
                                  wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 18:27 last edited by
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                                  @horace said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                                  Both my 80+ parents survived COVID without any real issue. Recovered in two weeks. With my dad on his death bed with cancer all across his body. It's a strange disease. There must be some genetic marker(s) that could tell us which among us are susceptible to bad cases.

                                  Neandertal DNA

                                  https://www.pnas.org/content/118/9/e2026309118

                                  Significance
                                  We show that a haplotype on chromosome 12, which is associated with a ∼22% reduction in relative risk of becoming severely ill with COVID-19 when infected by SARS-CoV-2, is inherited from Neandertals. This haplotype is present at substantial frequencies in all regions of the world outside Africa. The genomic region where this haplotype occurs encodes proteins that are important during infections with RNA viruses.

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 18:59 last edited by
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                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 19:16 last edited by
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                                      Horace wouldn't be seen dead in that sweater

                                      I was only joking

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 24 Feb 2021, 20:16 last edited by
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                                        No self respecting Neanderthal would. And he's from Wisconsin, y'know. Chock full of 'em.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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