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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    In my age cohort, my risk is 5%.

    Getting my next shot in 10 days...

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
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      Both my 80+ parents survived COVID without any real issue. Recovered in two weeks. With my dad on his death bed with cancer all across his body. It's a strange disease. There must be some genetic marker(s) that could tell us which among us are susceptible to bad cases.

      Education is extremely important.

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        jon-nyc
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        #4

        I saw a very interesting tweet a while back, that combined this info with disease incidence by age cohort and also included some non-age-related groups.

        Combining this you could get to a very interesting number - how many people of such-and-such group need to be vaccinated in order to prevent one death?

        For certain age and comorbidity categories, it was less than 1000. For some of the so-called essential worker categories it was on the order of 30k.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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        • L Loki

          https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/coronavirus-leading-through-the-crisis/charting-the-path-to-the-next-normal/people-over-75-are-1000-times-more-likely-to-die-from-covid-19-than-teenagers#

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          Loki
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          #5

          60% of deaths are people older than 75. 80% over age 65.

          But we’ve known this forever. I’m quite sure the rates of death are greatly impacted by co-morbid conditions.

          If I were young I would have lots of questions around why I lost not only a year of my life but my job prospects too. Why didn’t the scientists and media truly focus on the most vulnerable?

          CopperC George KG Aqua LetiferA 3 Replies Last reply
          • L Loki

            60% of deaths are people older than 75. 80% over age 65.

            But we’ve known this forever. I’m quite sure the rates of death are greatly impacted by co-morbid conditions.

            If I were young I would have lots of questions around why I lost not only a year of my life but my job prospects too. Why didn’t the scientists and media truly focus on the most vulnerable?

            CopperC Offline
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            @loki said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

            If I were young I would have lots of questions around why I lost not only a year of my life but my job prospects too. Why didn’t the scientists and media truly focus on the most vulnerable?

            Trump

            He had to look bad, nothing else mattered

            Really

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            • L Loki

              60% of deaths are people older than 75. 80% over age 65.

              But we’ve known this forever. I’m quite sure the rates of death are greatly impacted by co-morbid conditions.

              If I were young I would have lots of questions around why I lost not only a year of my life but my job prospects too. Why didn’t the scientists and media truly focus on the most vulnerable?

              George KG Offline
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              George K
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              @loki said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

              Why didn’t the scientists and media truly focus on the most vulnerable?

              This is a rhetorical question, right?

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                I think one thing we are missing talking about in this forum thread is that it is not only dead people which are effected.

                Alot of people are sick and "recover" but still have problems.

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                • L Loki

                  60% of deaths are people older than 75. 80% over age 65.

                  But we’ve known this forever. I’m quite sure the rates of death are greatly impacted by co-morbid conditions.

                  If I were young I would have lots of questions around why I lost not only a year of my life but my job prospects too. Why didn’t the scientists and media truly focus on the most vulnerable?

                  Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                  Aqua Letifer
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                  @loki said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                  why I lost not only a year of my life

                  That's horseshit. If some "young person" "lost a year of their life" it's their own fault and no one else's.

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                    @loki said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                    why I lost not only a year of my life

                    That's horseshit. If some "young person" "lost a year of their life" it's their own fault and no one else's.

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                    @aqua-letifer said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                    @loki said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                    why I lost not only a year of my life

                    That's horseshit. If some "young person" "lost a year of their life" it's their own fault and no one else's.

                    Spoken like a true conservative.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      The people who lost a year of their lives are the folks we basically imprisoned in nursing and assisted living facilities.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • MikM Mik

                        The people who lost a year of their lives are the folks we basically imprisoned in nursing and assisted living facilities.

                        Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                        @mik said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                        The people who lost a year of their lives are the folks we basically imprisoned in nursing and assisted living facilities.

                        👆

                        But yeah, sure, let's vaccinate more young people and keep the older ones imprisoned, that really fucking helps everything.

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • MikM Offline
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                          They are starting to open things up in the homes We can now see my MIL again under controlled circumstances. But the damage this past year did to her is perhaps crueler than taking her chances.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            Doctor Phibes
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                            #14

                            My two teenage children struggled, but neither lost a year of their lives, my son took a year out of college and worked, my daughter is in high school. The people who lost years of their lives are the ones who died.

                            I was only joking

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                            • CopperC Copper

                              @loki said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                              If I were young I would have lots of questions around why I lost not only a year of my life but my job prospects too. Why didn’t the scientists and media truly focus on the most vulnerable?

                              Trump

                              He had to look bad, nothing else mattered

                              Really

                              Doctor PhibesD Online
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                              Doctor Phibes
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                              @copper said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                              @loki said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                              If I were young I would have lots of questions around why I lost not only a year of my life but my job prospects too. Why didn’t the scientists and media truly focus on the most vulnerable?

                              Trump

                              He had to look bad, nothing else mattered

                              Really

                              Yeah, obviously that's why Europe went into lockdown. Donald Trump.

                              I was only joking

                              CopperC 1 Reply Last reply
                              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                @copper said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                                @loki said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                                If I were young I would have lots of questions around why I lost not only a year of my life but my job prospects too. Why didn’t the scientists and media truly focus on the most vulnerable?

                                Trump

                                He had to look bad, nothing else mattered

                                Really

                                Yeah, obviously that's why Europe went into lockdown. Donald Trump.

                                CopperC Offline
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                                Copper
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                                @doctor-phibes said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                                @copper said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                                @loki said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                                If I were young I would have lots of questions around why I lost not only a year of my life but my job prospects too. Why didn’t the scientists and media truly focus on the most vulnerable?

                                Trump

                                He had to look bad, nothing else mattered

                                Really

                                Yeah, obviously that's why Europe went into lockdown. Donald Trump.

                                The question wasn't why lockdown.

                                It was about the focus.

                                In this country, and much of the world, the focus was Mr. Trump, all year long.

                                How many stories about the vulnerable were published last summer or fall? A few about the nursing homes in NY, but the focus of those was mostly the governor.

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                                • CopperC Copper

                                  @doctor-phibes said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                                  @copper said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                                  @loki said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                                  If I were young I would have lots of questions around why I lost not only a year of my life but my job prospects too. Why didn’t the scientists and media truly focus on the most vulnerable?

                                  Trump

                                  He had to look bad, nothing else mattered

                                  Really

                                  Yeah, obviously that's why Europe went into lockdown. Donald Trump.

                                  The question wasn't why lockdown.

                                  It was about the focus.

                                  In this country, and much of the world, the focus was Mr. Trump, all year long.

                                  How many stories about the vulnerable were published last summer or fall? A few about the nursing homes in NY, but the focus of those was mostly the governor.

                                  Doctor PhibesD Online
                                  Doctor PhibesD Online
                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #17

                                  @copper said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                                  In this country, and much of the world, the focus was Mr. Trump, all year long.

                                  Not when it came to the pandemic. The only time my British friends mentioned Trump really was to comfort themselves with the thought that whilst Bo-Jo is a complete plonker, it could always be worse.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                    @copper said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                                    In this country, and much of the world, the focus was Mr. Trump, all year long.

                                    Not when it came to the pandemic. The only time my British friends mentioned Trump really was to comfort themselves with the thought that whilst Bo-Jo is a complete plonker, it could always be worse.

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                                    @doctor-phibes said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                                    @copper said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                                    In this country, and much of the world, the focus was Mr. Trump, all year long.

                                    Not when it came to the pandemic. The only time my British friends mentioned Trump really was to comfort themselves with the thought that whilst Bo-Jo is a complete plonker, it could always be worse.

                                    Same in the Far East. President Trump was obviously in the news, but not really about the pandemic.

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                                    • HoraceH Horace

                                      Both my 80+ parents survived COVID without any real issue. Recovered in two weeks. With my dad on his death bed with cancer all across his body. It's a strange disease. There must be some genetic marker(s) that could tell us which among us are susceptible to bad cases.

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                                      @horace said in Likelihood of Covid death by age group:

                                      Both my 80+ parents survived COVID without any real issue. Recovered in two weeks. With my dad on his death bed with cancer all across his body. It's a strange disease. There must be some genetic marker(s) that could tell us which among us are susceptible to bad cases.

                                      Neandertal DNA

                                      https://www.pnas.org/content/118/9/e2026309118

                                      Significance
                                      We show that a haplotype on chromosome 12, which is associated with a ∼22% reduction in relative risk of becoming severely ill with COVID-19 when infected by SARS-CoV-2, is inherited from Neandertals. This haplotype is present at substantial frequencies in all regions of the world outside Africa. The genomic region where this haplotype occurs encodes proteins that are important during infections with RNA viruses.

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                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                                          Doctor Phibes
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                                          Horace wouldn't be seen dead in that sweater

                                          I was only joking

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