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    George K
    wrote on 27 Apr 2020, 13:28 last edited by
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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Mik
      wrote on 27 Apr 2020, 13:40 last edited by
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      They are scared.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Axtremus
        wrote on 27 Apr 2020, 14:12 last edited by
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        Push on, Australia!
        I'd like to see what "economic hit" the mainland-Chinese government is talking about.

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          89th
          wrote on 27 Apr 2020, 14:27 last edited by
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          Maybe they'll stop ordering Aussie wine.

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            27 Apr 2020, 14:27

            Maybe they'll stop ordering Aussie wine.

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            Ivorythumper
            wrote on 27 Apr 2020, 14:32 last edited by
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            @89th said in Extortion:

            Maybe they'll stop ordering Aussie wine.

            You say that as if its a bad thing.

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              Mik
              wrote on 27 Apr 2020, 14:40 last edited by
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              Yeah. I'm not much of a fan either. By and large I'm not a fan of southern hemisphere wines.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                Aqua Letifer
                wrote on 27 Apr 2020, 14:45 last edited by
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                Oz is even more economically tied to China than we are. By a lot. But what's weird is they stand to lose a lot by pissing Australia off, too.

                This is going to be interesting.

                Please love yourself.

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                • A Aqua Letifer
                  27 Apr 2020, 14:45

                  Oz is even more economically tied to China than we are. By a lot. But what's weird is they stand to lose a lot by pissing Australia off, too.

                  This is going to be interesting.

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                  taiwan_girl
                  wrote on 27 Apr 2020, 14:51 last edited by
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                  @Aqua-Letifer

                  I agree. I think that if China follows with some type of action, traditional Australia allies (UK, USA, etc), will come to the side of Australia and retaliate against China

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                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on 27 Apr 2020, 14:53 last edited by
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                    Be interesting to see what the UK does, but if this escalates, we're absolutely going to get involved here. 😄

                    Please love yourself.

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 27 Apr 2020, 15:02 last edited by
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                      China has no room for belligerence today. They would be wiser to back off and exert some humility.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • M Mik
                        27 Apr 2020, 15:02

                        China has no room for belligerence today. They would be wiser to back off and exert some humility.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 27 Apr 2020, 15:43 last edited by
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                        @Mik said in Extortion:

                        China has no room for belligerence today. They would be wiser to back off and exert some humility.

                        I think you underestimate their arrogance.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 27 Apr 2020, 16:20 last edited by
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                          I don't think it's arrogance. I think it is fear and the best defense if a good offense.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on 27 Apr 2020, 16:44 last edited by
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                            Dictatorships are always hopelessly insecure. They can brutalise their own people into submission, but good luck trying that out on the Aussies.

                            I was only joking

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                              xenon
                              wrote on 27 Apr 2020, 16:49 last edited by xenon
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                              China may have a small window to get their house in order before things stop going in their favor.

                              They've invested like crazy to bootstrap domestic industries. Some have worked (manufacturing, batteries, telecom). Some are still works in progress (compute, AI, etc.)

                              But they're running out of time. They've invested like crazy in certain sectors and their demographics get worse day by day.

                              Also - they may be richer. But richer people don't want to work shit jobs, but they're not rich enough and well-trained to compete well for the good jobs either.

                              Can the regime withstand multiple years of stagnation or worse?

                              I'd agree - they're scared, insecure and lashing out.

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