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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • MikM Offline
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      #2

      They are scared.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • AxtremusA Offline
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        #3

        Push on, Australia!
        I'd like to see what "economic hit" the mainland-Chinese government is talking about.

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        • 89th8 Online
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          Maybe they'll stop ordering Aussie wine.

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          • 89th8 89th

            Maybe they'll stop ordering Aussie wine.

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            Ivorythumper
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            @89th said in Extortion:

            Maybe they'll stop ordering Aussie wine.

            You say that as if its a bad thing.

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            • MikM Offline
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              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              Yeah. I'm not much of a fan either. By and large I'm not a fan of southern hemisphere wines.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                Aqua Letifer
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                Oz is even more economically tied to China than we are. By a lot. But what's weird is they stand to lose a lot by pissing Australia off, too.

                This is going to be interesting.

                Please love yourself.

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                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                  Oz is even more economically tied to China than we are. By a lot. But what's weird is they stand to lose a lot by pissing Australia off, too.

                  This is going to be interesting.

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                  taiwan_girl
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  @Aqua-Letifer

                  I agree. I think that if China follows with some type of action, traditional Australia allies (UK, USA, etc), will come to the side of Australia and retaliate against China

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                  • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    Be interesting to see what the UK does, but if this escalates, we're absolutely going to get involved here. 😄

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      China has no room for belligerence today. They would be wiser to back off and exert some humility.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • MikM Mik

                        China has no room for belligerence today. They would be wiser to back off and exert some humility.

                        George KG Offline
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                        George K
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                        @Mik said in Extortion:

                        China has no room for belligerence today. They would be wiser to back off and exert some humility.

                        I think you underestimate their arrogance.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • MikM Offline
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                          Mik
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #12

                          I don't think it's arrogance. I think it is fear and the best defense if a good offense.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                            Dictatorships are always hopelessly insecure. They can brutalise their own people into submission, but good luck trying that out on the Aussies.

                            I was only joking

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                              xenon
                              wrote on last edited by xenon
                              #14

                              China may have a small window to get their house in order before things stop going in their favor.

                              They've invested like crazy to bootstrap domestic industries. Some have worked (manufacturing, batteries, telecom). Some are still works in progress (compute, AI, etc.)

                              But they're running out of time. They've invested like crazy in certain sectors and their demographics get worse day by day.

                              Also - they may be richer. But richer people don't want to work shit jobs, but they're not rich enough and well-trained to compete well for the good jobs either.

                              Can the regime withstand multiple years of stagnation or worse?

                              I'd agree - they're scared, insecure and lashing out.

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