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Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    Does she represent her district?

    √.

    Has she advocated violence, yes or no? No.

    √.

    Then she's less batshit crazy than some of her esteemed colleagues across the aisle.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Today she was booted from all her committee assignments. Maybe this will be a great way for the House to become more rational. Time to start booting the individuals that make incendiary comments. Let it be a lesson to all.

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        The GOP is morphing.

        If they have any sense, they'll follow Trump's lead on many of the issues that garnered him black, latino and working class white support.

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        @jolly said in Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?:

        The GOP is morphing.

        If they have any sense, they'll follow Trump's lead on many of the issues that garnered him black, latino and working class white support.

        This is a good point, but if they do do what you suggest, they have to do it by making President Trump in the background and slowly disappearing.

        Any gains President Trump had in the black, latino and working class white were were more than eliminated by large decreases in college educated white people, and people with ages from 18-29 and age 65+

        (https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/7137/2020-post-election-analysis-by-president-trump-advisors)

        President Trump does not have a good record of keeping voters.
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        For people who love President Trump, I think that they love him more than any recent President, but again, this was eliminated by increases in the people who did not like him.

        For me, it seems obvious that they have to move away from President Trump if they want to move forward in the future.

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          Cancel culture will get you more Trump. It may not be him the person, but you will get more of exactly what you don’t want. Not unity.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • MikM Mik

            Cancel culture will get you more Trump. It may not be him the person, but you will get more of exactly what you don’t want. Not unity.

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            @mik said in Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?:

            Cancel culture will get you more Trump. It may not be him the person, but you will get more of exactly what you don’t want. Not unity.

            👆

            Please love yourself.

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              Today she was booted from all her committee assignments. Maybe this will be a great way for the House to become more rational. Time to start booting the individuals that make incendiary comments. Let it be a lesson to all.

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              @loki said in Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?:

              Today she was booted from all her committee assignments. Maybe this will be a great way for the House to become more rational. Time to start booting the individuals that make incendiary comments. Let it be a lesson to all.

              If it doesn't happen across the aisle - AND IT WON'T - it means nothing.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • MikM Mik

                Cancel culture will get you more Trump. It may not be him the person, but you will get more of exactly what you don’t want. Not unity.

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                @mik said in Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?:

                Cancel culture will get you more Trump.

                Has "cancel culture" become more or less prevalent since Trump won the general election near the end of 2016?

                By your theory, you would have to say that "cancel culture" has become less prevalent as we now have "less Trump" than we did at the end of 2016.

                If you say "cancel culture" has become more prevalent, then your theory about "cancel culture" getting you "more Trump" is obviously false as we now have "less Trump" than we did at the end of 2016.

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  @mik said in Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?:

                  Cancel culture will get you more Trump.

                  Has "cancel culture" become more or less prevalent since Trump won the general election near the end of 2016?

                  By your theory, you would have to say that "cancel culture" has become less prevalent as we now have "less Trump" than we did at the end of 2016.

                  If you say "cancel culture" has become more prevalent, then your theory about "cancel culture" getting you "more Trump" is obviously false as we now have "less Trump" than we did at the end of 2016.

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                  @axtremus I think you get "Trump" because of cancel culture. And I think he does amp up the "cancel culture" people even further and you've gotten more "cancel culture"

                  But the driving function is still "cancel culture" - and the absence of "Trump" wouldn't correct it.

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                    @axtremus I think you get "Trump" because of cancel culture. And I think he does amp up the "cancel culture" people even further and you've gotten more "cancel culture"

                    But the driving function is still "cancel culture" - and the absence of "Trump" wouldn't correct it.

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                    @xenon Are you saying "Trump" and "cancel culture" form a mutually reinforcing feedback loop, or that only one is driving the other but not the other way round?

                    How do you quantify "Trump", as in, how do you know whether you have "more Trump" or "less Trump" now than you did in some other point in time in the past?

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                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                      @xenon Are you saying "Trump" and "cancel culture" form a mutually reinforcing feedback loop, or that only one is driving the other but not the other way round?

                      How do you quantify "Trump", as in, how do you know whether you have "more Trump" or "less Trump" now than you did in some other point in time in the past?

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                      @axtremus said in Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?:

                      @xenon Are you saying "Trump" and "cancel culture" form a mutually reinforcing feedback loop, or that only one is driving the other but not the other way round?

                      How do you quantify "Trump", as in, how do you know whether you have "more Trump" or "less Trump" now than you did in some other point in time in the past?

                      Trump (or Trump-like figures) are like a turbocharger, but not the engine.

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                        @axtremus said in Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?:

                        @xenon Are you saying "Trump" and "cancel culture" form a mutually reinforcing feedback loop, or that only one is driving the other but not the other way round?

                        How do you quantify "Trump", as in, how do you know whether you have "more Trump" or "less Trump" now than you did in some other point in time in the past?

                        Trump (or Trump-like figures) are like a turbocharger, but not the engine.

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                        @xenon said in Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?:

                        Trump (or Trump-like figures) are like a turbocharger, but not the engine.

                        Please help me understand what you are saying ...

                        1. "Turbocharger" that turbocharges what in your analogy?
                        2. What is the "engine" in your analogy?
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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          @xenon said in Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?:

                          Trump (or Trump-like figures) are like a turbocharger, but not the engine.

                          Please help me understand what you are saying ...

                          1. "Turbocharger" that turbocharges what in your analogy?
                          2. What is the "engine" in your analogy?
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                          xenon
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                          @axtremus said in Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?:

                          @xenon said in Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?:

                          Trump (or Trump-like figures) are like a turbocharger, but not the engine.

                          Please help me understand what you are saying ...

                          1. "Turbocharger" that turbocharges what in your analogy?
                          2. What is the "engine" in your analogy?

                          The engine is a culture that is increasingly intolerant of a opinions outside of the mainstream (or what’s deemed to be proper). I can’t pinpoint that to one source.

                          It gets turbocharged when some like Trump goes way beyond those boundaries - then the culture becomes intolerant to everything Trump says by default (even stuff that isnt necessarily incendiary)

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                            #55

                            I feel cancel culture at work. I self-censor some of my opinions. (My work isn’t that bad though)

                            I do create a little bit of mischief by asking “naive” questions a la Aqua.

                            But I’m also aware that as a brown guy I can ask questions that would be harder for white people to ask (and that’s fucked)

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                            • X xenon

                              I feel cancel culture at work. I self-censor some of my opinions. (My work isn’t that bad though)

                              I do create a little bit of mischief by asking “naive” questions a la Aqua.

                              But I’m also aware that as a brown guy I can ask questions that would be harder for white people to ask (and that’s fucked)

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                              @xenon said in Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?:

                              But I’m also aware that as a brown guy I can ask questions that would be harder for white people to ask (and that’s fucked)

                              Well, remember the Borat rule: surety is your friend. The more certain the other person is that they know what you're about, the more ridiculous you're able to be.

                              Please love yourself.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  McConnell calls MTG a cancer on the GOP.

                                  https://wtop.com/government/2021/02/house-democrats-mount-effort-to-punish-georgia-rep-greene/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

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                                  @jon-nyc said in Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?:

                                  McConnell calls MTG a cancer on the GOP.

                                  An overstatement? Her sheer looniness seems to render her an unserious enough threat to rise to the level of cancer. A serious persistent sinus infection maybe.

                                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                    Which is crazier and more damaging? The idea that the Jews have a space laser or the idea that equality means equal outcomes?

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                                    @lufins-dad said in Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?:

                                    Which is crazier and more damaging? The idea that the Jews have a space laser or the idea that equality means equal outcomes?

                                    I was going to say the same thing. The Democrat's path to equity for all of their identity groups is madness for the nation. MTG's wackiness is madness pretty much relegated to a small snippet of rural Georgia.

                                    And as echoed by Cats, "Her sheer looniness seems to render her an unserious enough threat to rise to the level of cancer."

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                                      @lufins-dad said in Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?:

                                      Which is crazier and more damaging? The idea that the Jews have a space laser or the idea that equality means equal outcomes?

                                      I was going to say the same thing. The Democrat's path to equity for all of their identity groups is madness for the nation. MTG's wackiness is madness pretty much relegated to a small snippet of rural Georgia.

                                      And as echoed by Cats, "Her sheer looniness seems to render her an unserious enough threat to rise to the level of cancer."

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                                      @kincaid said in Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?:

                                      The Democrat's path to equity for all of their identity groups is madness for the nation.

                                      Yeah, but I'm betting the Dem political class is savvy enough to know that this is a non-starter that is good for decades of inter-group squabbling. Leaving them with nothing to do but toss out some soothing rhetoric once in awhile.

                                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                        @kincaid said in Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?:

                                        The Democrat's path to equity for all of their identity groups is madness for the nation.

                                        Yeah, but I'm betting the Dem political class is savvy enough to know that this is a non-starter that is good for decades of inter-group squabbling. Leaving them with nothing to do but toss out some soothing rhetoric once in awhile.

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                                        @catseye3 said in Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?:

                                        @kincaid said in Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?:

                                        The Democrat's path to equity for all of their identity groups is madness for the nation.

                                        Yeah, but I'm betting the Dem political class is savvy enough to know that this is a non-starter that is good for decades of inter-group squabbling. Leaving them with nothing to do but toss out some soothing rhetoric once in awhile.

                                        If they can keep a lid on it. Somehow this feels like a Marvel Comics character (Dr. Octopus?) trying to contain the energy...

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                                          Remember when Biden told a bunch of African Americans that Republicans were "Going to put ya'll back in chains"?

                                          Good times...

                                          The Brad

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