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Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?

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  • KincaidK Offline
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    Kincaid
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    #34

    What I find telling is how Democrats suddenly are ready to disenfranchise voters.

    I. Am. Shocked.

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      Loki
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      #35

      The only goal was to prevent the GOP from cleaving. It might have been a strategic master stroke. Very risky we will see.

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        The GOP is morphing.

        If they have any sense, they'll follow Trump's lead on many of the issues that garnered him black, latino and working class white support.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          #37

          Which is crazier and more damaging? The idea that the Jews have a space laser or the idea that equality means equal outcomes?

          The Brad

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            #38

            Are you suggesting Liz Cheney is all in on ‘equity’?

            But to your question, damaging to whom?

            Blaming Jews for catastrophic events doesn’t have a great track record.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              Which is crazier and more damaging? The idea that the Jews have a space laser or the idea that equality means equal outcomes?

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              #39

              @lufins-dad said in Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?:

              Which is crazier and more damaging? The idea that the Jews have a space laser or the idea that equality means equal outcomes?

              What does it even matter which is worse?

              Please love yourself.

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                Which is crazier and more damaging? The idea that the Jews have a space laser or the idea that equality means equal outcomes?

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                Doctor Phibes
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                #40

                I would guess that somebody who believes the Jews have a space laser probably has a bunch of other beliefs about Jews that they're keeping to themselves because they don't want people to think they're anti-semitic.

                Just contemplate for a moment what this woman's secret thoughts are like, if her public ones involve Jewish space lasers and faking school shootings.

                I was only joking

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                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                  @lufins-dad said in Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?:

                  Which is crazier and more damaging? The idea that the Jews have a space laser or the idea that equality means equal outcomes?

                  What does it even matter which is worse?

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                  @aqua-letifer said in Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?:

                  @lufins-dad said in Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?:

                  Which is crazier and more damaging? The idea that the Jews have a space laser or the idea that equality means equal outcomes?

                  What does it even matter which is worse?

                  It’s worse for the GOP if it implodes versus taking the rhetorical heat right now. That’s a no brainer.

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                  • L Loki

                    @aqua-letifer said in Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?:

                    @lufins-dad said in Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?:

                    Which is crazier and more damaging? The idea that the Jews have a space laser or the idea that equality means equal outcomes?

                    What does it even matter which is worse?

                    It’s worse for the GOP if it implodes versus taking the rhetorical heat right now. That’s a no brainer.

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                    Aqua Letifer
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                    @loki said in Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?:

                    @aqua-letifer said in Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?:

                    @lufins-dad said in Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?:

                    Which is crazier and more damaging? The idea that the Jews have a space laser or the idea that equality means equal outcomes?

                    What does it even matter which is worse?

                    It’s worse for the GOP if it implodes versus taking the rhetorical heat right now. That’s a no brainer.

                    I'm talking about what's actually worse, not whatever fallout results in our fractured political system.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • JollyJ Offline
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                      Does she represent her district?

                      √.

                      Has she advocated violence, yes or no? No.

                      √.

                      Then she's less batshit crazy than some of her esteemed colleagues across the aisle.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        #44

                        Today she was booted from all her committee assignments. Maybe this will be a great way for the House to become more rational. Time to start booting the individuals that make incendiary comments. Let it be a lesson to all.

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          The GOP is morphing.

                          If they have any sense, they'll follow Trump's lead on many of the issues that garnered him black, latino and working class white support.

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                          @jolly said in Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?:

                          The GOP is morphing.

                          If they have any sense, they'll follow Trump's lead on many of the issues that garnered him black, latino and working class white support.

                          This is a good point, but if they do do what you suggest, they have to do it by making President Trump in the background and slowly disappearing.

                          Any gains President Trump had in the black, latino and working class white were were more than eliminated by large decreases in college educated white people, and people with ages from 18-29 and age 65+

                          (https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/7137/2020-post-election-analysis-by-president-trump-advisors)

                          President Trump does not have a good record of keeping voters.
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                          For people who love President Trump, I think that they love him more than any recent President, but again, this was eliminated by increases in the people who did not like him.

                          For me, it seems obvious that they have to move away from President Trump if they want to move forward in the future.

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                            Cancel culture will get you more Trump. It may not be him the person, but you will get more of exactly what you don’t want. Not unity.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • MikM Mik

                              Cancel culture will get you more Trump. It may not be him the person, but you will get more of exactly what you don’t want. Not unity.

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                              @mik said in Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?:

                              Cancel culture will get you more Trump. It may not be him the person, but you will get more of exactly what you don’t want. Not unity.

                              👆

                              Please love yourself.

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                                Today she was booted from all her committee assignments. Maybe this will be a great way for the House to become more rational. Time to start booting the individuals that make incendiary comments. Let it be a lesson to all.

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                                @loki said in Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?:

                                Today she was booted from all her committee assignments. Maybe this will be a great way for the House to become more rational. Time to start booting the individuals that make incendiary comments. Let it be a lesson to all.

                                If it doesn't happen across the aisle - AND IT WON'T - it means nothing.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  Cancel culture will get you more Trump. It may not be him the person, but you will get more of exactly what you don’t want. Not unity.

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                                  @mik said in Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?:

                                  Cancel culture will get you more Trump.

                                  Has "cancel culture" become more or less prevalent since Trump won the general election near the end of 2016?

                                  By your theory, you would have to say that "cancel culture" has become less prevalent as we now have "less Trump" than we did at the end of 2016.

                                  If you say "cancel culture" has become more prevalent, then your theory about "cancel culture" getting you "more Trump" is obviously false as we now have "less Trump" than we did at the end of 2016.

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                                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                    @mik said in Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?:

                                    Cancel culture will get you more Trump.

                                    Has "cancel culture" become more or less prevalent since Trump won the general election near the end of 2016?

                                    By your theory, you would have to say that "cancel culture" has become less prevalent as we now have "less Trump" than we did at the end of 2016.

                                    If you say "cancel culture" has become more prevalent, then your theory about "cancel culture" getting you "more Trump" is obviously false as we now have "less Trump" than we did at the end of 2016.

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                                    @axtremus I think you get "Trump" because of cancel culture. And I think he does amp up the "cancel culture" people even further and you've gotten more "cancel culture"

                                    But the driving function is still "cancel culture" - and the absence of "Trump" wouldn't correct it.

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                                      @axtremus I think you get "Trump" because of cancel culture. And I think he does amp up the "cancel culture" people even further and you've gotten more "cancel culture"

                                      But the driving function is still "cancel culture" - and the absence of "Trump" wouldn't correct it.

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                                      @xenon Are you saying "Trump" and "cancel culture" form a mutually reinforcing feedback loop, or that only one is driving the other but not the other way round?

                                      How do you quantify "Trump", as in, how do you know whether you have "more Trump" or "less Trump" now than you did in some other point in time in the past?

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                                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                        @xenon Are you saying "Trump" and "cancel culture" form a mutually reinforcing feedback loop, or that only one is driving the other but not the other way round?

                                        How do you quantify "Trump", as in, how do you know whether you have "more Trump" or "less Trump" now than you did in some other point in time in the past?

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                                        xenon
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                                        @axtremus said in Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?:

                                        @xenon Are you saying "Trump" and "cancel culture" form a mutually reinforcing feedback loop, or that only one is driving the other but not the other way round?

                                        How do you quantify "Trump", as in, how do you know whether you have "more Trump" or "less Trump" now than you did in some other point in time in the past?

                                        Trump (or Trump-like figures) are like a turbocharger, but not the engine.

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                                          @axtremus said in Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?:

                                          @xenon Are you saying "Trump" and "cancel culture" form a mutually reinforcing feedback loop, or that only one is driving the other but not the other way round?

                                          How do you quantify "Trump", as in, how do you know whether you have "more Trump" or "less Trump" now than you did in some other point in time in the past?

                                          Trump (or Trump-like figures) are like a turbocharger, but not the engine.

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                                          @xenon said in Who’s more representative of the future of the GOP?:

                                          Trump (or Trump-like figures) are like a turbocharger, but not the engine.

                                          Please help me understand what you are saying ...

                                          1. "Turbocharger" that turbocharges what in your analogy?
                                          2. What is the "engine" in your analogy?
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