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Hero Or Snitch?

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  • JollyJ Jolly

    @catseye3 said in Hero Or Snitch?:

    @jolly said in Hero Or Snitch?:

    So, we need to destroy families on the possibility the guy may have done something?
    How wonderful. And biased. And short-sighted.

    I'm reflecting on the many warnings the feds got ahead of 9/11, and which they did not take seriously. Somebody sure as hell was "short-sighted" there, but it wasn't the people who tried to warn in advance -- including the two Israelis who flew to Washington for the express purpose.

    And what does that have to do with this kid?

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    Catseye3
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    #39

    @jolly The kid supposedly warned about something that might happen, and you call the reaction "short-sighted". I'm saying in 9/11, the warnings were justified, and it was the feds who were short-sighted, and nobody has come forward to condemn those who tried to warn about 9/11.

    I'm not endorsing what the kid did. But your comment that there was short-sightedness is unjustified.

    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      @aqua-letifer said in Hero Or Snitch?:

      @jolly said in Hero Or Snitch?:

      Turning in your father to the FBI for what amounts to criminal trespass

      No, sorry, if the courts press further charges then you are going to be absolutely wrong about that. You don't get to downplay the charges because he's a fringe member of the side you endorse.

      So, we need to destroy families on the possibility the guy may have done something?

      How wonderful. And biased. And short-sighted.

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      Aqua Letifer
      wrote on last edited by
      #40

      @jolly said in Hero Or Snitch?:

      So, we need to destroy families on the possibility the guy may have done something?
      How wonderful. And biased. And short-sighted.

      No, I already laid out in detail how I think it should have been handled.

      Please love yourself.

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        @aqua-letifer said in Hero Or Snitch?:

        @jolly said in Hero Or Snitch?:

        Turning in your father to the FBI for what amounts to criminal trespass

        No, sorry, if the courts press further charges then you are going to be absolutely wrong about that. You don't get to downplay the charges because he's a fringe member of the side you endorse.

        So, we need to destroy families on the possibility the guy may have done something?

        How wonderful. And biased. And short-sighted.

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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on last edited by
        #41

        @jolly said in Hero Or Snitch?:

        @aqua-letifer said in Hero Or Snitch?:

        @jolly said in Hero Or Snitch?:

        Turning in your father to the FBI for what amounts to criminal trespass

        No, sorry, if the courts press further charges then you are going to be absolutely wrong about that. You don't get to downplay the charges because he's a fringe member of the side you endorse.

        So, we need to destroy families on the possibility the guy may have done something?

        How wonderful. And biased. And short-sighted.

        There is not enough known about the kid, the dad, their motivations, and their actual intents to make any kind of judgment.

        If the Oklahoma City Bomber had a kid and the kid reported the dad beforehand... Good job. If this kid was just embarrassed and frustrated because his dad embarrassed him because of his politics and the dad made some nebulous statement then the kid is an asshole.

        There is a whole world in between those two positions, and the truth is that it probably falls somewhere in the middle and they are both idiots.

        The Brad

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          Doctor Phibes
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          #42

          Is it just conceivable that he is neither a hero nor a low-life scumbag?

          I was only joking

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            Mik
            wrote on last edited by
            #43

            I would say that is pretty close to the truth. If you will notice I have not argued for either label. I simply think the kid should not have made the call.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #44

              True, but this is family.

              It's not like a conversation heard in a bar or some guy running his head at work.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                True, but this is family.

                It's not like a conversation heard in a bar or some guy running his head at work.

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                Doctor Phibes
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                #45

                @jolly said in Hero Or Snitch?:

                True, but this is family.

                The Mansons were family, too.

                I was only joking

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  @jolly said in Hero Or Snitch?:

                  True, but this is family.

                  The Mansons were family, too.

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                  Catseye3
                  wrote on last edited by Catseye3
                  #46

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                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    True, but this is family.

                    It's not like a conversation heard in a bar or some guy running his head at work.

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                    Renauda
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #47

                    @jolly said in Hero Or Snitch?:

                    True, but this is family.

                    That sounds like something Micheal Corleone would have said.

                    Elbows up!

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                      Axtremus
                      wrote on last edited by Axtremus
                      #48

                      What do @Jolly and Michael Carleone have in common?

                      They both put FAMILY above LAW & ORDER!!!

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                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                        What do @Jolly and Michael Carleone have in common?

                        They both put FAMILY above LAW & ORDER!!!

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #49

                        @axtremus said in Hero Or Snitch?:

                        What do @Jolly and Michael Carleone have in common?

                        They both put FAMILY above LAW & ORDER!!!

                        I do. I place a very high emphasis on family. In this case...

                        Because I know much of the law is corrupt and applied unequally. Second, because AFAIK, there is no major crime involved.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          @axtremus said in Hero Or Snitch?:

                          What do @Jolly and Michael Carleone have in common?

                          They both put FAMILY above LAW & ORDER!!!

                          I do. I place a very high emphasis on family. In this case...

                          Because I know much of the law is corrupt and applied unequally. Second, because AFAIK, there is no major crime involved.

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                          Aqua Letifer
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                          @jolly said in Hero Or Snitch?:

                          @axtremus said in Hero Or Snitch?:

                          What do @Jolly and Michael Carleone have in common?

                          They both put FAMILY above LAW & ORDER!!!

                          I do. I place a very high emphasis on family. In this case...

                          Because I know much of the law is corrupt and applied unequally. Second, because AFAIK, there is no major crime involved.

                          Your position would be completely different if you replaced "Trump rally" with "BLM rally."

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                            @jolly said in Hero Or Snitch?:

                            @axtremus said in Hero Or Snitch?:

                            What do @Jolly and Michael Carleone have in common?

                            They both put FAMILY above LAW & ORDER!!!

                            I do. I place a very high emphasis on family. In this case...

                            Because I know much of the law is corrupt and applied unequally. Second, because AFAIK, there is no major crime involved.

                            Your position would be completely different if you replaced "Trump rally" with "BLM rally."

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                            Copper
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #51

                            @aqua-letifer said in Hero Or Snitch?:

                            @jolly said in Hero Or Snitch?:

                            @axtremus said in Hero Or Snitch?:

                            What do @Jolly and Michael Carleone have in common?

                            They both put FAMILY above LAW & ORDER!!!

                            I do. I place a very high emphasis on family. In this case...

                            Because I know much of the law is corrupt and applied unequally. Second, because AFAIK, there is no major crime involved.

                            Your position would be completely different if you replaced "Trump rally" with "BLM rally."

                            That is for sure.

                            The snitch would have disappeared a long time ago, or perhaps just hung himself.

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                            • CopperC Copper

                              @aqua-letifer said in Hero Or Snitch?:

                              @jolly said in Hero Or Snitch?:

                              @axtremus said in Hero Or Snitch?:

                              What do @Jolly and Michael Carleone have in common?

                              They both put FAMILY above LAW & ORDER!!!

                              I do. I place a very high emphasis on family. In this case...

                              Because I know much of the law is corrupt and applied unequally. Second, because AFAIK, there is no major crime involved.

                              Your position would be completely different if you replaced "Trump rally" with "BLM rally."

                              That is for sure.

                              The snitch would have disappeared a long time ago, or perhaps just hung himself.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #52

                              @copper said in Hero Or Snitch?:

                              @aqua-letifer said in Hero Or Snitch?:

                              @jolly said in Hero Or Snitch?:

                              @axtremus said in Hero Or Snitch?:

                              What do @Jolly and Michael Carleone have in common?

                              They both put FAMILY above LAW & ORDER!!!

                              I do. I place a very high emphasis on family. In this case...

                              Because I know much of the law is corrupt and applied unequally. Second, because AFAIK, there is no major crime involved.

                              Your position would be completely different if you replaced "Trump rally" with "BLM rally."

                              That is for sure.

                              The snitch would have disappeared a long time ago, or perhaps just hung himself.

                              Repeatedly.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                @axtremus said in Hero Or Snitch?:

                                What do @Jolly and Michael Carleone have in common?

                                They both put FAMILY above LAW & ORDER!!!

                                I do. I place a very high emphasis on family. In this case...

                                Because I know much of the law is corrupt and applied unequally. Second, because AFAIK, there is no major crime involved.

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                                Axtremus
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #53

                                @jolly said in Hero Or Snitch?:

                                I place a very high emphasis on family.

                                Blood is not thicker than Kool-Aid.
                                Family is less than Trump.

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #54

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                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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