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  • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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    Aqua Letifer
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    #3

    In fairness to President Biden, what is the best solution? Where do you draw the line?

    Please love yourself.

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    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

      In fairness to President Biden, what is the best solution? Where do you draw the line?

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      Horace
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      #4

      @aqua-letifer said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

      In fairness to President Biden, what is the best solution? Where do you draw the line?

      Why is the biological sex at birth not the obvious best solution?

      Education is extremely important.

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        jon-nyc
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        #5

        The supreme court already did this last June in a 6-3 decision.

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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        • HoraceH Offline
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          Horace
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          #6

          I'm a garbage athlete and I beat the women's world record in the 2000 meter ergometer pull when I was 20 years old. As thus did half the team of males that I was on. I may be embellishing that memory. It may have been college women rower's records.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • HoraceH Horace

            @aqua-letifer said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

            In fairness to President Biden, what is the best solution? Where do you draw the line?

            Why is the biological sex at birth not the obvious best solution?

            89th8 Offline
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            89th
            wrote on last edited by
            #7

            @horace said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

            @aqua-letifer said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

            In fairness to President Biden, what is the best solution? Where do you draw the line?

            Why is the biological sex at birth not the obvious best solution?

            It really has to be. The whole WHOLE point of having separate sports is because of the physical differences between the biological sexes.

            Aqua LetiferA 1 Reply Last reply
            • 89th8 89th

              @horace said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

              @aqua-letifer said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

              In fairness to President Biden, what is the best solution? Where do you draw the line?

              Why is the biological sex at birth not the obvious best solution?

              It really has to be. The whole WHOLE point of having separate sports is because of the physical differences between the biological sexes.

              Aqua LetiferA Offline
              Aqua LetiferA Offline
              Aqua Letifer
              wrote on last edited by
              #8

              @89th said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

              @horace said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

              @aqua-letifer said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

              In fairness to President Biden, what is the best solution? Where do you draw the line?

              Why is the biological sex at birth not the obvious best solution?

              It really has to be. The whole WHOLE point of having separate sports is because of the physical differences between the biological sexes.

              Then where do transgender people fit in? Denying the category is not going to get anyone anywhere; it's a non-option. Some rule's got to be made.

              Please love yourself.

              89th8 JollyJ Doctor PhibesD IvorythumperI 4 Replies Last reply
              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                @89th said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                @horace said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                @aqua-letifer said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                In fairness to President Biden, what is the best solution? Where do you draw the line?

                Why is the biological sex at birth not the obvious best solution?

                It really has to be. The whole WHOLE point of having separate sports is because of the physical differences between the biological sexes.

                Then where do transgender people fit in? Denying the category is not going to get anyone anywhere; it's a non-option. Some rule's got to be made.

                89th8 Offline
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                89th
                wrote on last edited by
                #9

                @aqua-letifer said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                @89th said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                @horace said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                @aqua-letifer said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                In fairness to President Biden, what is the best solution? Where do you draw the line?

                Why is the biological sex at birth not the obvious best solution?

                It really has to be. The whole WHOLE point of having separate sports is because of the physical differences between the biological sexes.

                Then where do transgender people fit in? Denying the category is not going to get anyone anywhere; it's a non-option. Some rule's got to be made.

                Honestly, either in their biological sex’s sport, or they’ve made a life decision that unfortunately places then into a sports gap in which there aren’t any leagues...yet.

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                  Yeah - including biologically male trans-women in female leagues makes it such that biological females have no chance to compete.

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                  • 89th8 89th

                    @aqua-letifer said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                    @89th said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                    @horace said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                    @aqua-letifer said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                    In fairness to President Biden, what is the best solution? Where do you draw the line?

                    Why is the biological sex at birth not the obvious best solution?

                    It really has to be. The whole WHOLE point of having separate sports is because of the physical differences between the biological sexes.

                    Then where do transgender people fit in? Denying the category is not going to get anyone anywhere; it's a non-option. Some rule's got to be made.

                    Honestly, either in their biological sex’s sport, or they’ve made a life decision that unfortunately places then into a sports gap in which there aren’t any leagues...yet.

                    Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #11

                    @89th said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                    @aqua-letifer said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                    @89th said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                    @horace said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                    @aqua-letifer said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                    In fairness to President Biden, what is the best solution? Where do you draw the line?

                    Why is the biological sex at birth not the obvious best solution?

                    It really has to be. The whole WHOLE point of having separate sports is because of the physical differences between the biological sexes.

                    Then where do transgender people fit in? Denying the category is not going to get anyone anywhere; it's a non-option. Some rule's got to be made.

                    Honestly, either in their biological sex’s sport, or they’ve made a life decision that unfortunately places then into a sports gap in which there aren’t any leagues...yet.

                    That's what I'd suggest as well, but it will remain a socially insane suggestion until we get to the long list of inevitable problems that will come from the current rules.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      @aqua-letifer said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                      In fairness to President Biden, what is the best solution? Where do you draw the line?

                      Why is the biological sex at birth not the obvious best solution?

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                      Klaus
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                      #12

                      @horace said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                      @aqua-letifer said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                      In fairness to President Biden, what is the best solution? Where do you draw the line?

                      Why is the biological sex at birth not the obvious best solution?

                      I agree. In rare cases, the biological sex is ambiguous, but I’d say unless the person is unambiguously female, it needs to compete in male sports.

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                      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                        In fairness to President Biden, what is the best solution? Where do you draw the line?

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                        Moonbat
                        wrote on last edited by Moonbat
                        #13

                        @aqua-letifer said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                        In fairness to President Biden, what is the best solution? Where do you draw the line?

                        Exposure to testosterone during muscular and nervous system development.

                        They partition boxers by weight due to intrinsic performance advantages of different weight classes.

                        Development of musculature in the presence/absence of testosterone creates an expected performance difference across many sporting activities so it is plausible to similarly split competitors by this criteria. Current male/female division is a proxy for this.

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                          Doctor Phibes
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                          #14

                          Never mind all that shit. This is going to fucking ruin beach volleyball.

                          I was only joking

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                            LuFins Dad
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                            A bigger question... Why does Biden think he has that authority over private leagues, the NCAA, and state level school athletics...None of this falls into the domain of the Executive Office of the United States...

                            The Brad

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                            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                              @89th said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                              @horace said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                              @aqua-letifer said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                              In fairness to President Biden, what is the best solution? Where do you draw the line?

                              Why is the biological sex at birth not the obvious best solution?

                              It really has to be. The whole WHOLE point of having separate sports is because of the physical differences between the biological sexes.

                              Then where do transgender people fit in? Denying the category is not going to get anyone anywhere; it's a non-option. Some rule's got to be made.

                              JollyJ Offline
                              JollyJ Offline
                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #16

                              @aqua-letifer said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                              @89th said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                              @horace said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                              @aqua-letifer said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                              In fairness to President Biden, what is the best solution? Where do you draw the line?

                              Why is the biological sex at birth not the obvious best solution?

                              It really has to be. The whole WHOLE point of having separate sports is because of the physical differences between the biological sexes.

                              Then where do transgender people fit in? Denying the category is not going to get anyone anywhere; it's a non-option. Some rule's got to be made.

                              Where do they fit?

                              Competing as the gender they were born. This problem ain't rocket surgery.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                @89th said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                                @horace said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                                @aqua-letifer said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                                In fairness to President Biden, what is the best solution? Where do you draw the line?

                                Why is the biological sex at birth not the obvious best solution?

                                It really has to be. The whole WHOLE point of having separate sports is because of the physical differences between the biological sexes.

                                Then where do transgender people fit in? Denying the category is not going to get anyone anywhere; it's a non-option. Some rule's got to be made.

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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                                #17

                                @aqua-letifer said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                                @89th said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                                @horace said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                                @aqua-letifer said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                                In fairness to President Biden, what is the best solution? Where do you draw the line?

                                Why is the biological sex at birth not the obvious best solution?

                                It really has to be. The whole WHOLE point of having separate sports is because of the physical differences between the biological sexes.

                                Then where do transgender people fit in? Denying the category is not going to get anyone anywhere; it's a non-option. Some rule's got to be made.

                                There's really only two choices that make sense - either you insist on using the sex at birth, or you create new categories for transgender people. Unfortunately, neither of these options is going to be popular with some transgender people. On the other hand, transgender people insisting on being allowed to compete with other athletes of their declared gender is just going to increase anti-trans feelings amongst the rest of the population, and will ruin a number of sports.

                                I was only joking

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                                • M Moonbat

                                  @aqua-letifer said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                                  In fairness to President Biden, what is the best solution? Where do you draw the line?

                                  Exposure to testosterone during muscular and nervous system development.

                                  They partition boxers by weight due to intrinsic performance advantages of different weight classes.

                                  Development of musculature in the presence/absence of testosterone creates an expected performance difference across many sporting activities so it is plausible to similarly split competitors by this criteria. Current male/female division is a proxy for this.

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #18

                                  @moonbat said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                                  @aqua-letifer said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                                  In fairness to President Biden, what is the best solution? Where do you draw the line?

                                  Exposure to testosterone during muscular and nervous system development.

                                  They partition boxers by weight due to intrinsic performance advantages of different weight classes.

                                  Development of musculature in the presence/absence of testosterone creates an expected performance difference across many sporting activities so it is plausible to similarly split competitors by this criteria. Current male/female division is a proxy for this.

                                  I've seen gals compete in weight lifting who were on the juice. They do very well against females who aren't taking anything.

                                  But they could not compete against males of the same weight.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    LuFins Dad
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                                    Again, he’s not the bloody king. How does he have this authority?

                                    The Brad

                                    AxtremusA 89th8 2 Replies Last reply
                                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                      Again, he’s not the bloody king. How does he have this authority?

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                                      Axtremus
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                                      @lufins-dad said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                                      Again, he’s not the bloody king. How does he have this authority?

                                      He’s implementing statutes following the Supreme Court’s interpretation: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/17-1618_hfci.pdf

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        @moonbat said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                                        @aqua-letifer said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                                        In fairness to President Biden, what is the best solution? Where do you draw the line?

                                        Exposure to testosterone during muscular and nervous system development.

                                        They partition boxers by weight due to intrinsic performance advantages of different weight classes.

                                        Development of musculature in the presence/absence of testosterone creates an expected performance difference across many sporting activities so it is plausible to similarly split competitors by this criteria. Current male/female division is a proxy for this.

                                        I've seen gals compete in weight lifting who were on the juice. They do very well against females who aren't taking anything.

                                        But they could not compete against males of the same weight.

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                                        Moonbat
                                        wrote on last edited by Moonbat
                                        #21

                                        @jolly said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                                        @moonbat said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                                        @aqua-letifer said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                                        In fairness to President Biden, what is the best solution? Where do you draw the line?

                                        Exposure to testosterone during muscular and nervous system development.

                                        They partition boxers by weight due to intrinsic performance advantages of different weight classes.

                                        Development of musculature in the presence/absence of testosterone creates an expected performance difference across many sporting activities so it is plausible to similarly split competitors by this criteria. Current male/female division is a proxy for this.

                                        I've seen gals compete in weight lifting who were on the juice. They do very well against females who aren't taking anything.

                                        But they could not compete against males of the same weight.

                                        Indeed, because the developmental period is key.

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                                        • M Moonbat

                                          @jolly said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                                          @moonbat said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                                          @aqua-letifer said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                                          In fairness to President Biden, what is the best solution? Where do you draw the line?

                                          Exposure to testosterone during muscular and nervous system development.

                                          They partition boxers by weight due to intrinsic performance advantages of different weight classes.

                                          Development of musculature in the presence/absence of testosterone creates an expected performance difference across many sporting activities so it is plausible to similarly split competitors by this criteria. Current male/female division is a proxy for this.

                                          I've seen gals compete in weight lifting who were on the juice. They do very well against females who aren't taking anything.

                                          But they could not compete against males of the same weight.

                                          Indeed, because the developmental period is key.

                                          JollyJ Offline
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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #22

                                          @moonbat said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                                          @jolly said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                                          @moonbat said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                                          @aqua-letifer said in Biden: Biological males can compete in female sports:

                                          In fairness to President Biden, what is the best solution? Where do you draw the line?

                                          Exposure to testosterone during muscular and nervous system development.

                                          They partition boxers by weight due to intrinsic performance advantages of different weight classes.

                                          Development of musculature in the presence/absence of testosterone creates an expected performance difference across many sporting activities so it is plausible to similarly split competitors by this criteria. Current male/female division is a proxy for this.

                                          I've seen gals compete in weight lifting who were on the juice. They do very well against females who aren't taking anything.

                                          But they could not compete against males of the same weight.

                                          Indeed, because the developmental period is key.

                                          At the point you're talking about, the decision would be made by the parental units, not the child.

                                          I think they call that child abuse.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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