Amazon cutting ties with Parler
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@klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around. Not many have capacity on the level that AWS has, but Parler is small enough that they have plenty of options.
That said, I also think this isn't good.
Enjoy!
@jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
@klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around. Not many have capacity on the level that AWS has, but Parler is small enough that they have plenty of options.
That said, I also think this isn't good.
Enjoy!
What do you want me to enjoy?
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@jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
@klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around. Not many have capacity on the level that AWS has, but Parler is small enough that they have plenty of options.
That said, I also think this isn't good.
Enjoy!
What do you want me to enjoy?
@klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
@jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
@klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around. Not many have capacity on the level that AWS has, but Parler is small enough that they have plenty of options.
That said, I also think this isn't good.
Enjoy!
What do you want me to enjoy?
I've been preaching for quite sometime about a couple of different facets of this story:
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The internet is the new public square, especially the Big Tech companies such as Twitter, Facebook, etc. There has to be some level of regulation (at least for Americans) that ensures the same level of free speech as a public square.
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Big, can be too big. It stifles competition and innovation. It's time for some Teddy Roosevelt trust-busting.
The Left in this country is currently using the Capitol Riot as their Reichstag Fire and Big Tech is helping them silence any and all opposition...
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@klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
@jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
@klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around. Not many have capacity on the level that AWS has, but Parler is small enough that they have plenty of options.
That said, I also think this isn't good.
Enjoy!
What do you want me to enjoy?
I've been preaching for quite sometime about a couple of different facets of this story:
-
The internet is the new public square, especially the Big Tech companies such as Twitter, Facebook, etc. There has to be some level of regulation (at least for Americans) that ensures the same level of free speech as a public square.
-
Big, can be too big. It stifles competition and innovation. It's time for some Teddy Roosevelt trust-busting.
The Left in this country is currently using the Capitol Riot as their Reichstag Fire and Big Tech is helping them silence any and all opposition...
@jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
@klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
@jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
@klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around. Not many have capacity on the level that AWS has, but Parler is small enough that they have plenty of options.
That said, I also think this isn't good.
Enjoy!
What do you want me to enjoy?
I've been preaching for quite sometime about a couple of different facets of this story:
-
The internet is the new public square, especially the Big Tech companies such as Twitter, Facebook, etc. There has to be some level of regulation (at least for Americans) that ensures the same level of free speech as a public square.
-
Big, can be too big. It stifles competition and innovation. It's time for some Teddy Roosevelt trust-busting.
The Left in this country is currently using the Capitol Riot as their Reichstag Fire and Big Tech is helping them silence any and all opposition...
I don't necessarily disagree with what you said, but it's still not so clear to me what specifically you want me to enjoy. It's not like I endorse what's happening. Quite to the contrary...
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@jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
@klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
@jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
@klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around. Not many have capacity on the level that AWS has, but Parler is small enough that they have plenty of options.
That said, I also think this isn't good.
Enjoy!
What do you want me to enjoy?
I've been preaching for quite sometime about a couple of different facets of this story:
-
The internet is the new public square, especially the Big Tech companies such as Twitter, Facebook, etc. There has to be some level of regulation (at least for Americans) that ensures the same level of free speech as a public square.
-
Big, can be too big. It stifles competition and innovation. It's time for some Teddy Roosevelt trust-busting.
The Left in this country is currently using the Capitol Riot as their Reichstag Fire and Big Tech is helping them silence any and all opposition...
I don't necessarily disagree with what you said, but it's still not so clear to me what specifically you want me to enjoy. It's not like I endorse what's happening. Quite to the contrary...
@klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
@jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
@klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
@jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
@klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around. Not many have capacity on the level that AWS has, but Parler is small enough that they have plenty of options.
That said, I also think this isn't good.
Enjoy!
What do you want me to enjoy?
I've been preaching for quite sometime about a couple of different facets of this story:
-
The internet is the new public square, especially the Big Tech companies such as Twitter, Facebook, etc. There has to be some level of regulation (at least for Americans) that ensures the same level of free speech as a public square.
-
Big, can be too big. It stifles competition and innovation. It's time for some Teddy Roosevelt trust-busting.
The Left in this country is currently using the Capitol Riot as their Reichstag Fire and Big Tech is helping them silence any and all opposition...
I don't necessarily disagree with what you said, but it's still not so clear to me what specifically you want me to enjoy. It's not like I endorse what's happening. Quite to the contrary...
I'm being somewhat facetious...The defeat of Trump, coupled with the takeover of the Senate by the Dem party, will embolden the Far Left and their fascist bent. I think Big Tech has bought Biden, heart and soul. I also think he is too mentally and physically weak to defend the Center.I
Silicon Valley politics are going to rule, and the Devil take whoever, whatever or whomever they do not approve of.
Lastly, when that is taken into considerarion, maybe Renauda is right in his prognostication.
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@klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
@jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
@klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
@jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
@klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around. Not many have capacity on the level that AWS has, but Parler is small enough that they have plenty of options.
That said, I also think this isn't good.
Enjoy!
What do you want me to enjoy?
I've been preaching for quite sometime about a couple of different facets of this story:
-
The internet is the new public square, especially the Big Tech companies such as Twitter, Facebook, etc. There has to be some level of regulation (at least for Americans) that ensures the same level of free speech as a public square.
-
Big, can be too big. It stifles competition and innovation. It's time for some Teddy Roosevelt trust-busting.
The Left in this country is currently using the Capitol Riot as their Reichstag Fire and Big Tech is helping them silence any and all opposition...
I don't necessarily disagree with what you said, but it's still not so clear to me what specifically you want me to enjoy. It's not like I endorse what's happening. Quite to the contrary...
I'm being somewhat facetious...The defeat of Trump, coupled with the takeover of the Senate by the Dem party, will embolden the Far Left and their fascist bent. I think Big Tech has bought Biden, heart and soul. I also think he is too mentally and physically weak to defend the Center.I
Silicon Valley politics are going to rule, and the Devil take whoever, whatever or whomever they do not approve of.
Lastly, when that is taken into considerarion, maybe Renauda is right in his prognostication.
@jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
@klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
@jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
@klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
@jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
@klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around. Not many have capacity on the level that AWS has, but Parler is small enough that they have plenty of options.
That said, I also think this isn't good.
Enjoy!
What do you want me to enjoy?
I've been preaching for quite sometime about a couple of different facets of this story:
-
The internet is the new public square, especially the Big Tech companies such as Twitter, Facebook, etc. There has to be some level of regulation (at least for Americans) that ensures the same level of free speech as a public square.
-
Big, can be too big. It stifles competition and innovation. It's time for some Teddy Roosevelt trust-busting.
The Left in this country is currently using the Capitol Riot as their Reichstag Fire and Big Tech is helping them silence any and all opposition...
I don't necessarily disagree with what you said, but it's still not so clear to me what specifically you want me to enjoy. It's not like I endorse what's happening. Quite to the contrary...
I'm being somewhat facetious...The defeat of Trump, coupled with the takeover of the Senate by the Dem party, will embolden the Far Left and their fascist bent. I think Big Tech has bought Biden, heart and soul. I also think he is too mentally and physically weak to defend the Center.I
Silicon Valley politics are going to rule, and the Devil take whoever, whatever or whomever they do not approve of.
Lastly, when that is taken into considerarion, maybe Renauda is right in his prognostication.
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The far left could gain more actual power, but isn’t there also a chance that moderate ideas could have more space once the “great orange menace” has been removed?
If you believe TDS is a thing, maybe the some of the “D” will disappear with the “T” in power.
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It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around. Not many have capacity on the level that AWS has, but Parler is small enough that they have plenty of options.
That said, I also think this isn't good.
@klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around.
That was my thought too (unless they didn’t build their system to be cloud agnostic by using some AWS-only services). That being said, I imagine if they went to Microsoft, IBM, Oracle, Google, etc...they’d get kicked off of each.
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This is just unreal, isn’t it. I feel like I’ve woken up to an alternate reality. (Could be the migraine medicine I had to take at 4am. Seriously.)
@jodi said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:
This is just unreal, isn’t it. I feel like I’ve woken up to an alternate reality. (Could be the migraine medicine I had to take at 4am. Seriously.)
Note, it's not the EVIL conservatives that are silencing speech.
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https://jonathanturley.org/2021/01/11/parler-shutdown-in-latest-attack-on-free-speech/
What is particularly concerning is the common evasion used by academics and reporters that this is not really a free speech issue because these are private companies. The First Amendment is designed to address government restrictions on free speech. As a private entity, Twitter is not the subject of that amendment. However, private companies can still destroy free speech through private censorship. It is called the “Little Brother problem.” President Trump can be chastised for converting a “Little Brother” into a “Big Brother” problem. However, that does alter the fundamental threat to free speech. This is the denial of free speech, a principle that goes beyond the First Amendment. Indeed, some of us view free speech as a human right.
Consider racial or gender discrimination. It would be wrong regardless if federal law only banned such discrimination by the government. The same is true for free speech. The First Amendment is limited to government censorship, but free speech is not limited in the same way. Those of us who believe in free speech as a human right believe that it is morally wrong to deny it as either a private or governmental entity. That does not mean that there are not differences between governmental and private actions. For example, companies may control free speech in the workplaces. They have a recognized right of free speech. However, the social media companies were created as forums for speech. Indeed, they sought immunity on the false claim that they were not making editorial decisions or engaging viewpoint regulation. No one is saying that these companies are breaking the law in denying free speech. We are saying that they are denying free speech as companies offering speech platforms.
If Pelosi demanded that Verizon or Sprint interrupt calls to stop people saying false or misleading things, the public would be outraged. Twitter serves the same communicative function between consenting parties; it simply allows thousands of people to participate in such digital exchanges. Those people do not sign up to exchange thoughts only to have Dorsey or some other internet overlord monitor their conversations and “protect” them from errant or harmful thoughts.
Much of our free speech today occurs on private sites like Twitter and Facebook. The Democrats want private companies to censor or label statements deemed misleading. Such a system would evade First Amendment conflict but it would have an even greater likely impact on free speech than direct government monitoring.
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The complaint asks a federal court for a temporary restraining order (TRO) against Amazon (AMZN) and calls Amazon Web Services' decision a "death blow" to Parler.
"Without AWS, Parler is finished as it has no way to get online," the complaint said. "And a delay of granting this TRO by even one day could also sound Parler's death knell as President Trump and others move on to other platforms."Parler's lawsuit argues that Amazon has unlawfully sought to restrain competition by eliminating a player from the market.
It also claims Amazon breached its contract with Parler by not providing Parler 30 days' notice of termination -- and that its actions interfere with Parler's relationships with current and future users.
In a letter obtained by CNN Business that was sent to Parler Chief Policy Officer Amy Peikoff on Saturday, Amazon Web Services said that in recent weeks it has reported 98 examples to Parler of "posts that clearly encourage and incite violence." The letter includes screenshots of several examples.
"We've seen a steady increase in this violent content on your website, all of which violates our terms," AWS wrote. "It's clear that Parler does not have an effective process to comply with the AWS terms of service."
Amazon did not immediately respond to a request for comment concerning the lawsuit.
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What I don't understand is why not only the Parler servers are down, but the parler.com domain is even deleted from the domain name system!
I tried this with both my providers DNS server and Google's.
Usually, Parler should at least be able to control their DNS entry and redirect it to some "Under construction" page, where they can keep people posted about their progress.
I wonder whether somehow "big tech" has managed to purge their DNS entry, too. That would be a new quality of "canceling".
