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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    #16

    Gab own their own shit but then this happens:

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • KlausK Klaus

      It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around. Not many have capacity on the level that AWS has, but Parler is small enough that they have plenty of options.

      That said, I also think this isn't good.

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      Jolly
      wrote on last edited by
      #17

      @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

      It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around. Not many have capacity on the level that AWS has, but Parler is small enough that they have plenty of options.

      That said, I also think this isn't good.

      Enjoy!

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

        It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around. Not many have capacity on the level that AWS has, but Parler is small enough that they have plenty of options.

        That said, I also think this isn't good.

        Enjoy!

        KlausK Online
        KlausK Online
        Klaus
        wrote on last edited by
        #18

        @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

        @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

        It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around. Not many have capacity on the level that AWS has, but Parler is small enough that they have plenty of options.

        That said, I also think this isn't good.

        Enjoy!

        What do you want me to enjoy?

        JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
        • KlausK Klaus

          @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

          @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

          It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around. Not many have capacity on the level that AWS has, but Parler is small enough that they have plenty of options.

          That said, I also think this isn't good.

          Enjoy!

          What do you want me to enjoy?

          JollyJ Offline
          JollyJ Offline
          Jolly
          wrote on last edited by Jolly
          #19

          @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

          @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

          @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

          It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around. Not many have capacity on the level that AWS has, but Parler is small enough that they have plenty of options.

          That said, I also think this isn't good.

          Enjoy!

          What do you want me to enjoy?

          I've been preaching for quite sometime about a couple of different facets of this story:

          1. The internet is the new public square, especially the Big Tech companies such as Twitter, Facebook, etc. There has to be some level of regulation (at least for Americans) that ensures the same level of free speech as a public square.

          2. Big, can be too big. It stifles competition and innovation. It's time for some Teddy Roosevelt trust-busting.

          The Left in this country is currently using the Capitol Riot as their Reichstag Fire and Big Tech is helping them silence any and all opposition...

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

          KlausK 1 Reply Last reply
          • JollyJ Jolly

            @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

            @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

            @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

            It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around. Not many have capacity on the level that AWS has, but Parler is small enough that they have plenty of options.

            That said, I also think this isn't good.

            Enjoy!

            What do you want me to enjoy?

            I've been preaching for quite sometime about a couple of different facets of this story:

            1. The internet is the new public square, especially the Big Tech companies such as Twitter, Facebook, etc. There has to be some level of regulation (at least for Americans) that ensures the same level of free speech as a public square.

            2. Big, can be too big. It stifles competition and innovation. It's time for some Teddy Roosevelt trust-busting.

            The Left in this country is currently using the Capitol Riot as their Reichstag Fire and Big Tech is helping them silence any and all opposition...

            KlausK Online
            KlausK Online
            Klaus
            wrote on last edited by
            #20

            @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

            @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

            @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

            @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

            It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around. Not many have capacity on the level that AWS has, but Parler is small enough that they have plenty of options.

            That said, I also think this isn't good.

            Enjoy!

            What do you want me to enjoy?

            I've been preaching for quite sometime about a couple of different facets of this story:

            1. The internet is the new public square, especially the Big Tech companies such as Twitter, Facebook, etc. There has to be some level of regulation (at least for Americans) that ensures the same level of free speech as a public square.

            2. Big, can be too big. It stifles competition and innovation. It's time for some Teddy Roosevelt trust-busting.

            The Left in this country is currently using the Capitol Riot as their Reichstag Fire and Big Tech is helping them silence any and all opposition...

            I don't necessarily disagree with what you said, but it's still not so clear to me what specifically you want me to enjoy. It's not like I endorse what's happening. Quite to the contrary...

            JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
            • KlausK Klaus

              @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

              @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

              @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

              @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

              It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around. Not many have capacity on the level that AWS has, but Parler is small enough that they have plenty of options.

              That said, I also think this isn't good.

              Enjoy!

              What do you want me to enjoy?

              I've been preaching for quite sometime about a couple of different facets of this story:

              1. The internet is the new public square, especially the Big Tech companies such as Twitter, Facebook, etc. There has to be some level of regulation (at least for Americans) that ensures the same level of free speech as a public square.

              2. Big, can be too big. It stifles competition and innovation. It's time for some Teddy Roosevelt trust-busting.

              The Left in this country is currently using the Capitol Riot as their Reichstag Fire and Big Tech is helping them silence any and all opposition...

              I don't necessarily disagree with what you said, but it's still not so clear to me what specifically you want me to enjoy. It's not like I endorse what's happening. Quite to the contrary...

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              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #21

              @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

              @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

              @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

              @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

              @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

              It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around. Not many have capacity on the level that AWS has, but Parler is small enough that they have plenty of options.

              That said, I also think this isn't good.

              Enjoy!

              What do you want me to enjoy?

              I've been preaching for quite sometime about a couple of different facets of this story:

              1. The internet is the new public square, especially the Big Tech companies such as Twitter, Facebook, etc. There has to be some level of regulation (at least for Americans) that ensures the same level of free speech as a public square.

              2. Big, can be too big. It stifles competition and innovation. It's time for some Teddy Roosevelt trust-busting.

              The Left in this country is currently using the Capitol Riot as their Reichstag Fire and Big Tech is helping them silence any and all opposition...

              I don't necessarily disagree with what you said, but it's still not so clear to me what specifically you want me to enjoy. It's not like I endorse what's happening. Quite to the contrary...

              I'm being somewhat facetious...The defeat of Trump, coupled with the takeover of the Senate by the Dem party, will embolden the Far Left and their fascist bent. I think Big Tech has bought Biden, heart and soul. I also think he is too mentally and physically weak to defend the Center.I

              Silicon Valley politics are going to rule, and the Devil take whoever, whatever or whomever they do not approve of.

              Lastly, when that is taken into considerarion, maybe Renauda is right in his prognostication.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around. Not many have capacity on the level that AWS has, but Parler is small enough that they have plenty of options.

                That said, I also think this isn't good.

                Enjoy!

                What do you want me to enjoy?

                I've been preaching for quite sometime about a couple of different facets of this story:

                1. The internet is the new public square, especially the Big Tech companies such as Twitter, Facebook, etc. There has to be some level of regulation (at least for Americans) that ensures the same level of free speech as a public square.

                2. Big, can be too big. It stifles competition and innovation. It's time for some Teddy Roosevelt trust-busting.

                The Left in this country is currently using the Capitol Riot as their Reichstag Fire and Big Tech is helping them silence any and all opposition...

                I don't necessarily disagree with what you said, but it's still not so clear to me what specifically you want me to enjoy. It's not like I endorse what's happening. Quite to the contrary...

                I'm being somewhat facetious...The defeat of Trump, coupled with the takeover of the Senate by the Dem party, will embolden the Far Left and their fascist bent. I think Big Tech has bought Biden, heart and soul. I also think he is too mentally and physically weak to defend the Center.I

                Silicon Valley politics are going to rule, and the Devil take whoever, whatever or whomever they do not approve of.

                Lastly, when that is taken into considerarion, maybe Renauda is right in his prognostication.

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                xenon
                wrote on last edited by xenon
                #22

                @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                @jolly said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around. Not many have capacity on the level that AWS has, but Parler is small enough that they have plenty of options.

                That said, I also think this isn't good.

                Enjoy!

                What do you want me to enjoy?

                I've been preaching for quite sometime about a couple of different facets of this story:

                1. The internet is the new public square, especially the Big Tech companies such as Twitter, Facebook, etc. There has to be some level of regulation (at least for Americans) that ensures the same level of free speech as a public square.

                2. Big, can be too big. It stifles competition and innovation. It's time for some Teddy Roosevelt trust-busting.

                The Left in this country is currently using the Capitol Riot as their Reichstag Fire and Big Tech is helping them silence any and all opposition...

                I don't necessarily disagree with what you said, but it's still not so clear to me what specifically you want me to enjoy. It's not like I endorse what's happening. Quite to the contrary...

                I'm being somewhat facetious...The defeat of Trump, coupled with the takeover of the Senate by the Dem party, will embolden the Far Left and their fascist bent. I think Big Tech has bought Biden, heart and soul. I also think he is too mentally and physically weak to defend the Center.I

                Silicon Valley politics are going to rule, and the Devil take whoever, whatever or whomever they do not approve of.

                Lastly, when that is taken into considerarion, maybe Renauda is right in his prognostication.

                .

                The far left could gain more actual power, but isn’t there also a chance that moderate ideas could have more space once the “great orange menace” has been removed?

                If you believe TDS is a thing, maybe the some of the “D” will disappear with the “T” in power.

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                • KlausK Klaus

                  It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around. Not many have capacity on the level that AWS has, but Parler is small enough that they have plenty of options.

                  That said, I also think this isn't good.

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                  89th
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                  #23

                  @klaus said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                  It shouldn't be too hard for Parler to move to a different cloud provider. There are plenty of them around.

                  That was my thought too (unless they didn’t build their system to be cloud agnostic by using some AWS-only services). That being said, I imagine if they went to Microsoft, IBM, Oracle, Google, etc...they’d get kicked off of each.

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #24

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                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      Copper
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                      spooky

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                        89th
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                        #26

                        Bezos givith and Bezos taketh away

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                        • 89th8 89th

                          Bezos givith and Bezos taketh away

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                          Jolly
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                          #27

                          @89th said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                          Bezos givith and Bezos taketh away

                          Czar Bezos to you, peasant.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            jon-nyc
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                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              89th
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                              @jon-nyc 😂

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                                #30

                                This is just unreal, isn’t it. I feel like I’ve woken up to an alternate reality. (Could be the migraine medicine I had to take at 4am. Seriously.)

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                                  Loki
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                                  #31

                                  It’s so interesting that countries like China censor via government and in the US it’s our corporations.

                                  So why? I have my impressions but I’m interested in what others think.

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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    #32

                                    Well, sometimes we do it through precedents in civil law. I still think there’s some liability concern behind the Parler thing.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      This is just unreal, isn’t it. I feel like I’ve woken up to an alternate reality. (Could be the migraine medicine I had to take at 4am. Seriously.)

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                                      @jodi said in Amazon cutting ties with Parler:

                                      This is just unreal, isn’t it. I feel like I’ve woken up to an alternate reality. (Could be the migraine medicine I had to take at 4am. Seriously.)

                                      Note, it's not the EVIL conservatives that are silencing speech.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        George K
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                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          https://jonathanturley.org/2021/01/11/parler-shutdown-in-latest-attack-on-free-speech/

                                          What is particularly concerning is the common evasion used by academics and reporters that this is not really a free speech issue because these are private companies. The First Amendment is designed to address government restrictions on free speech. As a private entity, Twitter is not the subject of that amendment. However, private companies can still destroy free speech through private censorship. It is called the “Little Brother problem.” President Trump can be chastised for converting a “Little Brother” into a “Big Brother” problem. However, that does alter the fundamental threat to free speech. This is the denial of free speech, a principle that goes beyond the First Amendment. Indeed, some of us view free speech as a human right.

                                          Consider racial or gender discrimination. It would be wrong regardless if federal law only banned such discrimination by the government. The same is true for free speech. The First Amendment is limited to government censorship, but free speech is not limited in the same way. Those of us who believe in free speech as a human right believe that it is morally wrong to deny it as either a private or governmental entity. That does not mean that there are not differences between governmental and private actions. For example, companies may control free speech in the workplaces. They have a recognized right of free speech. However, the social media companies were created as forums for speech. Indeed, they sought immunity on the false claim that they were not making editorial decisions or engaging viewpoint regulation. No one is saying that these companies are breaking the law in denying free speech. We are saying that they are denying free speech as companies offering speech platforms.

                                          If Pelosi demanded that Verizon or Sprint interrupt calls to stop people saying false or misleading things, the public would be outraged. Twitter serves the same communicative function between consenting parties; it simply allows thousands of people to participate in such digital exchanges. Those people do not sign up to exchange thoughts only to have Dorsey or some other internet overlord monitor their conversations and “protect” them from errant or harmful thoughts.

                                          Much of our free speech today occurs on private sites like Twitter and Facebook. The Democrats want private companies to censor or label statements deemed misleading. Such a system would evade First Amendment conflict but it would have an even greater likely impact on free speech than direct government monitoring.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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