More Trump deplatforming
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/stripe-stops-processing-payments-for-trump-campaign-website-11610319116
Stripe Inc. will no longer process payments for President Trump’s campaign website following last week’s riot at the Capitol, according to people familiar with the matter.
The financial-technology company handles card payments for millions of online businesses and e-commerce platforms, including Mr. Trump’s campaign website and online fundraising apparatus. Stripe is cutting off the president’s campaign account for violating its policies against encouraging violence, the people said.
Spokespeople for the Trump campaign didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.
Stripe asks users to agree that they won’t accept payments for “high risk” activities, including for any business or organization that “engages in, encourages, promotes or celebrates unlawful violence or physical harm to persons or property,” according to its website.
Frankly, I would sue their asses. The allegations of incitement are speculative, at best, and partisan at worst. All of these outfits ignored other people who made more serious incitements (Maxine Waters, eg) and ignored it. This is discriminatory on the basis of political stance, not on the basis of an actual threat.
But...wedding cake.
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/stripe-stops-processing-payments-for-trump-campaign-website-11610319116
Stripe Inc. will no longer process payments for President Trump’s campaign website following last week’s riot at the Capitol, according to people familiar with the matter.
The financial-technology company handles card payments for millions of online businesses and e-commerce platforms, including Mr. Trump’s campaign website and online fundraising apparatus. Stripe is cutting off the president’s campaign account for violating its policies against encouraging violence, the people said.
Spokespeople for the Trump campaign didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.
Stripe asks users to agree that they won’t accept payments for “high risk” activities, including for any business or organization that “engages in, encourages, promotes or celebrates unlawful violence or physical harm to persons or property,” according to its website.
Frankly, I would sue their asses. The allegations of incitement are speculative, at best, and partisan at worst. All of these outfits ignored other people who made more serious incitements (Maxine Waters, eg) and ignored it. This is discriminatory on the basis of political stance, not on the basis of an actual threat.
But...wedding cake.
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@jolly said in More Trump deplatforming:
Enjoy!
Enjoy what? I am enjoying watching Trump get what he deserves for how he behaved as President these last few months.
@89th said in More Trump deplatforming:
@jolly said in More Trump deplatforming:
Enjoy!
Enjoy what? I am enjoying watching Trump get what he deserves for how he behaved as President these last few months.
Hmm, do you really think this is all just about Trump? That this is only about preventing violence? If there's truly a conservative bone left in your body, you've got to know this kind of shit is about silencing you as well.
This censoring/deplatforming has been happening since before the events of last week. That's how Parlor came about. At least we got that though, amirite!
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@89th said in More Trump deplatforming:
@jolly said in More Trump deplatforming:
Enjoy!
Enjoy what? I am enjoying watching Trump get what he deserves for how he behaved as President these last few months.
Hmm, do you really think this is all just about Trump? That this is only about preventing violence? If there's truly a conservative bone left in your body, you've got to know this kind of shit is about silencing you as well.
This censoring/deplatforming has been happening since before the events of last week. That's how Parlor came about. At least we got that though, amirite!
@rich said in More Trump deplatforming:
you've got to know this kind of shit is about silencing you as well.
No actually I'm going to go ahead and believe not everyone who disagrees with me politically thinks with the same hive mind. Demonize away though.
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@rich said in More Trump deplatforming:
you've got to know this kind of shit is about silencing you as well.
No actually I'm going to go ahead and believe not everyone who disagrees with me politically thinks with the same hive mind. Demonize away though.
@aqua-letifer Nothing in what I wrote suggests I believe anyone who disagrees with me politically thinks with the same hive mind.
Don't even think I really demonized anyone. Unless you're saying critical of a policy=demonizing.
Still better than silencing them though.
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@aqua-letifer Nothing in what I wrote suggests I believe anyone who disagrees with me politically thinks with the same hive mind.
Don't even think I really demonized anyone. Unless you're saying critical of a policy=demonizing.
Still better than silencing them though.
@rich said in More Trump deplatforming:
@aqua-letifer Nothing in what I wrote suggests I believe anyone who disagrees with me politically thinks with the same hive mind.
Well when you said "it's about silencing you as well," that's completely untrue. I'd be willing to bet that almost everyone who would jump at the chance to invoke the 25th against Trump would also not want to silence 89th for his political beliefs.
Please love yourself.
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@rich said in More Trump deplatforming:
@aqua-letifer Nothing in what I wrote suggests I believe anyone who disagrees with me politically thinks with the same hive mind.
Well when you said "it's about silencing you as well," that's completely untrue. I'd be willing to bet that almost everyone who would jump at the chance to invoke the 25th against Trump would also not want to silence 89th for his political beliefs.
@aqua-letifer By definition, invoking the 25th really is about dealing with a specific individual. (I wasn't addressing that issue in this thread)
Selectively enforcing policies about inciting violence or using hate speech, is what's got me worried.
If time shows my concerns unfounded--hallelujah! But as of right now, I'm not very optimistic.
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@rich said in More Trump deplatforming:
@aqua-letifer Nothing in what I wrote suggests I believe anyone who disagrees with me politically thinks with the same hive mind.
Well when you said "it's about silencing you as well," that's completely untrue. I'd be willing to bet that almost everyone who would jump at the chance to invoke the 25th against Trump would also not want to silence 89th for his political beliefs.
@aqua-letifer said in More Trump deplatforming:
@rich said in More Trump deplatforming:
@aqua-letifer Nothing in what I wrote suggests I believe anyone who disagrees with me politically thinks with the same hive mind.
Well when you said "it's about silencing you as well," that's completely untrue. I'd be willing to bet that almost everyone who would jump at the chance to invoke the 25th against Trump would also not want to silence 89th for his political beliefs.
No, you need to be silenced. Your ideas are racist and dangerous.
It's for the good of the country.
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@aqua-letifer said in More Trump deplatforming:
@rich said in More Trump deplatforming:
@aqua-letifer Nothing in what I wrote suggests I believe anyone who disagrees with me politically thinks with the same hive mind.
Well when you said "it's about silencing you as well," that's completely untrue. I'd be willing to bet that almost everyone who would jump at the chance to invoke the 25th against Trump would also not want to silence 89th for his political beliefs.
No, you need to be silenced. Your ideas are racist and dangerous.
It's for the good of the country.
@jolly said in More Trump deplatforming:
No, you need to be silenced. Your ideas are racist and dangerous.
It's for the good of the country.In the absolute shitload of stuff I read and see from liberals every day, I literally don't know anyone who's saying that.
You're grouping everyone not on your side together and speaking for them so you can demonize them. That's exactly how all this will escalate.
Please love yourself.
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@jolly said in More Trump deplatforming:
No, you need to be silenced. Your ideas are racist and dangerous.
It's for the good of the country.In the absolute shitload of stuff I read and see from liberals every day, I literally don't know anyone who's saying that.
You're grouping everyone not on your side together and speaking for them so you can demonize them. That's exactly how all this will escalate.
@aqua-letifer said in More Trump deplatforming:
@jolly said in More Trump deplatforming:
No, you need to be silenced. Your ideas are racist and dangerous.
It's for the good of the country.In the absolute shitload of stuff I read and see from liberals every day, I literally don't know anyone who's saying that.
You're grouping everyone not on your side together and speaking for them so you can demonize them. That's exactly how all this will escalate.
Excuse me, but how many voices are now banned from Twitter? Parler is now off of the internet, or soon will be. The POTUS, duly elected, cannot post on Twitter, but the Communist Chinese can. Many people's voices besides Trump are now silenced or will be.
I don't have to group everyone together, there are plenty of people on the Left who are doing that as fast as they can...
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@aqua-letifer said in More Trump deplatforming:
@jolly said in More Trump deplatforming:
No, you need to be silenced. Your ideas are racist and dangerous.
It's for the good of the country.In the absolute shitload of stuff I read and see from liberals every day, I literally don't know anyone who's saying that.
You're grouping everyone not on your side together and speaking for them so you can demonize them. That's exactly how all this will escalate.
Excuse me, but how many voices are now banned from Twitter? Parler is now off of the internet, or soon will be. The POTUS, duly elected, cannot post on Twitter, but the Communist Chinese can. Many people's voices besides Trump are now silenced or will be.
I don't have to group everyone together, there are plenty of people on the Left who are doing that as fast as they can...
@jolly said in More Trump deplatforming:
Excuse me, but how many voices are now banned from Twitter?
A very, very small percentage. And yes they're making some big mistakes there. But we have never before had to grapple with this stuff and we're being sloppy. The overwhelming majority of Trumpists out there are still quite obviously raging on social media.
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@aqua-letifer said in More Trump deplatforming:
@jolly said in More Trump deplatforming:
No, you need to be silenced. Your ideas are racist and dangerous.
It's for the good of the country.In the absolute shitload of stuff I read and see from liberals every day, I literally don't know anyone who's saying that.
You're grouping everyone not on your side together and speaking for them so you can demonize them. That's exactly how all this will escalate.
Excuse me, but how many voices are now banned from Twitter? Parler is now off of the internet, or soon will be. The POTUS, duly elected, cannot post on Twitter, but the Communist Chinese can. Many people's voices besides Trump are now silenced or will be.
I don't have to group everyone together, there are plenty of people on the Left who are doing that as fast as they can...
@jolly said in More Trump deplatforming:
@aqua-letifer said in More Trump deplatforming:
@jolly said in More Trump deplatforming:
No, you need to be silenced. Your ideas are racist and dangerous.
It's for the good of the country.In the absolute shitload of stuff I read and see from liberals every day, I literally don't know anyone who's saying that.
You're grouping everyone not on your side together and speaking for them so you can demonize them. That's exactly how all this will escalate.
Excuse me, but how many voices are now banned from Twitter? Parler is now off of the internet, or soon will be. The POTUS, duly elected, cannot post on Twitter, but the Communist Chinese can. Many people's voices besides Trump are now silenced or will be.
I don't have to group everyone together, there are plenty of people on the Left who are doing that as fast as they can...
@jolly said in More Trump deplatforming:
@aqua-letifer said in More Trump deplatforming:
@jolly said in More Trump deplatforming:
No, you need to be silenced. Your ideas are racist and dangerous.
It's for the good of the country.In the absolute shitload of stuff I read and see from liberals every day, I literally don't know anyone who's saying that.
You're grouping everyone not on your side together and speaking for them so you can demonize them. That's exactly how all this will escalate.
Excuse me, but how many voices are now banned from Twitter? Parler is now off of the internet, or soon will be. The POTUS, duly elected, cannot post on Twitter, but the Communist Chinese can. Many people's voices besides Trump are now silenced or will be.
I don't have to group everyone together, there are plenty of people on the Left who are doing that as fast as they can...
And you can thank Trump for this, and maybe for the destruction of the Republican Party. He could’ve just accepted his loss and moved on.
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@jolly said in More Trump deplatforming:
@aqua-letifer said in More Trump deplatforming:
@jolly said in More Trump deplatforming:
No, you need to be silenced. Your ideas are racist and dangerous.
It's for the good of the country.In the absolute shitload of stuff I read and see from liberals every day, I literally don't know anyone who's saying that.
You're grouping everyone not on your side together and speaking for them so you can demonize them. That's exactly how all this will escalate.
Excuse me, but how many voices are now banned from Twitter? Parler is now off of the internet, or soon will be. The POTUS, duly elected, cannot post on Twitter, but the Communist Chinese can. Many people's voices besides Trump are now silenced or will be.
I don't have to group everyone together, there are plenty of people on the Left who are doing that as fast as they can...
@jolly said in More Trump deplatforming:
@aqua-letifer said in More Trump deplatforming:
@jolly said in More Trump deplatforming:
No, you need to be silenced. Your ideas are racist and dangerous.
It's for the good of the country.In the absolute shitload of stuff I read and see from liberals every day, I literally don't know anyone who's saying that.
You're grouping everyone not on your side together and speaking for them so you can demonize them. That's exactly how all this will escalate.
Excuse me, but how many voices are now banned from Twitter? Parler is now off of the internet, or soon will be. The POTUS, duly elected, cannot post on Twitter, but the Communist Chinese can. Many people's voices besides Trump are now silenced or will be.
I don't have to group everyone together, there are plenty of people on the Left who are doing that as fast as they can...
And you can thank Trump for this, and maybe for the destruction of the Republican Party. He could’ve just accepted his loss and moved on.
@89th said in More Trump deplatforming:
@jolly said in More Trump deplatforming:
@aqua-letifer said in More Trump deplatforming:
@jolly said in More Trump deplatforming:
No, you need to be silenced. Your ideas are racist and dangerous.
It's for the good of the country.In the absolute shitload of stuff I read and see from liberals every day, I literally don't know anyone who's saying that.
You're grouping everyone not on your side together and speaking for them so you can demonize them. That's exactly how all this will escalate.
Excuse me, but how many voices are now banned from Twitter? Parler is now off of the internet, or soon will be. The POTUS, duly elected, cannot post on Twitter, but the Communist Chinese can. Many people's voices besides Trump are now silenced or will be.
I don't have to group everyone together, there are plenty of people on the Left who are doing that as fast as they can...
@jolly said in More Trump deplatforming:
@aqua-letifer said in More Trump deplatforming:
@jolly said in More Trump deplatforming:
No, you need to be silenced. Your ideas are racist and dangerous.
It's for the good of the country.In the absolute shitload of stuff I read and see from liberals every day, I literally don't know anyone who's saying that.
You're grouping everyone not on your side together and speaking for them so you can demonize them. That's exactly how all this will escalate.
Excuse me, but how many voices are now banned from Twitter? Parler is now off of the internet, or soon will be. The POTUS, duly elected, cannot post on Twitter, but the Communist Chinese can. Many people's voices besides Trump are now silenced or will be.
I don't have to group everyone together, there are plenty of people on the Left who are doing that as fast as they can...
And you can thank Trump for this, and maybe for the destruction of the Republican Party. He could’ve just accepted his loss and moved on.
Too Trump-centric. Look at what's happening. Trump is just the excuse.
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@jolly said in More Trump deplatforming:
No, you need to be silenced. Your ideas are racist and dangerous.
It's for the good of the country.In the absolute shitload of stuff I read and see from liberals every day, I literally don't know anyone who's saying that.
You're grouping everyone not on your side together and speaking for them so you can demonize them. That's exactly how all this will escalate.
@aqua-letifer said in More Trump deplatforming:
@jolly said in More Trump deplatforming:
No, you need to be silenced. Your ideas are racist and dangerous.
It's for the good of the country.In the absolute shitload of stuff I read and see from liberals every day, I literally don't know anyone who's saying that.
You're grouping everyone not on your side together and speaking for them so you can demonize them. That's exactly how all this will escalate.
Ms. Pelosi says "whiteness" is bad.
You are "whiteness"
Now you literally do know someone who is saying that.
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@aqua-letifer said in More Trump deplatforming:
@jolly said in More Trump deplatforming:
No, you need to be silenced. Your ideas are racist and dangerous.
It's for the good of the country.In the absolute shitload of stuff I read and see from liberals every day, I literally don't know anyone who's saying that.
You're grouping everyone not on your side together and speaking for them so you can demonize them. That's exactly how all this will escalate.
Excuse me, but how many voices are now banned from Twitter? Parler is now off of the internet, or soon will be. The POTUS, duly elected, cannot post on Twitter, but the Communist Chinese can. Many people's voices besides Trump are now silenced or will be.
I don't have to group everyone together, there are plenty of people on the Left who are doing that as fast as they can...
@jolly said in More Trump deplatforming:
@aqua-letifer said in More Trump deplatforming:
@jolly said in More Trump deplatforming:
No, you need to be silenced. Your ideas are racist and dangerous.
It's for the good of the country.In the absolute shitload of stuff I read and see from liberals every day, I literally don't know anyone who's saying that.
You're grouping everyone not on your side together and speaking for them so you can demonize them. That's exactly how all this will escalate.
Excuse me, but how many voices are now banned from Twitter? Parler is now off of the internet, or soon will be. The POTUS, duly elected, cannot post on Twitter, but the Communist Chinese can. Many people's voices besides Trump are now silenced or will be.
I don't have to group everyone together, there are plenty of people on the Left who are doing that as fast as they can...
I think @Axtremus brought it up earlier about the US government having an official channel of communication.
There may be some things that are in the "public good" so that they need to be "owned" by the government. Post office is one example. Not sure if that is still needed now, but back when, it was necessary. Maybe there should be a government communication channel like Twitter.
If you do rely on a third party and have no real "contract" with them, then you cannot expect to keep control over that third party
