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  • G George K
    7 Jan 2021, 23:05

    @xenon said in Resignations:

    I did find a video of an interviewer asking him if he is offended by John Stewart calling him Turtle (I think he popularized it). And his response was "I love it".

    I'll happily cede that point, if, indeed, McConnell endorsed it.

    Nevertheless, it's a petty thing to say, and Stewart, IMO should be ashamed of himself.

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    Mik
    wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 23:07 last edited by
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    @george-k said in Resignations:

    @xenon said in Resignations:

    I did find a video of an interviewer asking him if he is offended by John Stewart calling him Turtle (I think he popularized it). And his response was "I love it".

    I'll happily cede that point, if, indeed, McConnell endorsed it.

    Nevertheless, it's a petty thing to say, and Stewart, IMO should be ashamed of himself.

    There is a difference between endorsing that nickname and trying to take the power out of it by laughing it off.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • M Mik
      7 Jan 2021, 23:07

      @george-k said in Resignations:

      @xenon said in Resignations:

      I did find a video of an interviewer asking him if he is offended by John Stewart calling him Turtle (I think he popularized it). And his response was "I love it".

      I'll happily cede that point, if, indeed, McConnell endorsed it.

      Nevertheless, it's a petty thing to say, and Stewart, IMO should be ashamed of himself.

      There is a difference between endorsing that nickname and trying to take the power out of it by laughing it off.

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      xenon
      wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 23:09 last edited by xenon 1 Jul 2021, 23:09
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      @mik said in Resignations:

      @george-k said in Resignations:

      @xenon said in Resignations:

      I did find a video of an interviewer asking him if he is offended by John Stewart calling him Turtle (I think he popularized it). And his response was "I love it".

      I'll happily cede that point, if, indeed, McConnell endorsed it.

      Nevertheless, it's a petty thing to say, and Stewart, IMO should be ashamed of himself.

      There is a difference between endorsing that nickname and trying to take the power out of it by laughing it off.

      I agree. And reading both of your reactions and thinking about it - I wish I didn't say it.

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      • X xenon
        7 Jan 2021, 23:09

        @mik said in Resignations:

        @george-k said in Resignations:

        @xenon said in Resignations:

        I did find a video of an interviewer asking him if he is offended by John Stewart calling him Turtle (I think he popularized it). And his response was "I love it".

        I'll happily cede that point, if, indeed, McConnell endorsed it.

        Nevertheless, it's a petty thing to say, and Stewart, IMO should be ashamed of himself.

        There is a difference between endorsing that nickname and trying to take the power out of it by laughing it off.

        I agree. And reading both of your reactions and thinking about it - I wish I didn't say it.

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        Mik
        wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 23:29 last edited by Mik 1 Jul 2021, 23:30
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        @xenon said in Resignations:

        @mik said in Resignations:

        @george-k said in Resignations:

        @xenon said in Resignations:

        I did find a video of an interviewer asking him if he is offended by John Stewart calling him Turtle (I think he popularized it). And his response was "I love it".

        I'll happily cede that point, if, indeed, McConnell endorsed it.

        Nevertheless, it's a petty thing to say, and Stewart, IMO should be ashamed of himself.

        There is a difference between endorsing that nickname and trying to take the power out of it by laughing it off.

        I agree. And reading both of your reactions and thinking about it - I wish I didn't say it.

        I WIN THE INTERNET!! I CHANGED XENON'S MIND!!

        I WIN! I WIN!!!

        A monumental day in TNCR history. 😆

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          Horace
          wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 23:37 last edited by
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          Mik rules.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • X xenon
            7 Jan 2021, 21:59

            @george-k said in Resignations:

            @xenon said in Resignations:

            Turtle's wife

            Nice.

            https://babylonbee.com/news/mcconnell-returns-to-the-sea

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            Catseye3
            wrote on 7 Jan 2021, 23:43 last edited by
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            @xenon said in Resignations:

            https://babylonbee.com/news/mcconnell-returns-to-the-sea

            "McConnell then shuffled slowly across the sand towards the water. With one final look back at the shores of America, the majestic creature sank into the roiling briny depths of the ocean."

            55555555555

            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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            • X xenon
              7 Jan 2021, 23:01

              @george-k I get you. I really do. And I'm only arguing with you out of habit - I agree that you shouldn't make fun of people that you don't know. period.

              But I do think there are gradations of physical appearance-based nicknames.

              Fatso is generally bad - unless someone were to be really comfortable with it (there's an overweight rapper who calls himself "Fat Joe")

              Orange man is offensive because presumably Trump wants to look different than his natural skin hue. That's not something he'd appreciate or has publicly acknowledged.

              I think McConnell is brilliant (even if in a machiavellian way) - so I'm not trying to insult him out of hate.

              But now that you've roused the contrarian in me. I did find a video of an interviewer asking him if he is offended by John Stewart calling him Turtle (I think he popularized it). And his response was "I love it".

              Now afterward he made it clear that it doesn't matter to him, because the opinion of people that do matter to him (his constituents and colleagues) is what he cares about. So, if you read the subtext, I'm sure he doesn't actually "love it". But as I said - in the pantheon of insults, it's pretty minor.

              But - point taken. You shouldn't make fun of people you don't know.

              Also. Re:Trump's disabled thing. It's pretty inconclusive if he was actually making fun of him for being disabled. He's done that motion many times. I wouldn't put it past him, but it's not evidence of him making fun of a disabled person.

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              Jolly
              wrote on 8 Jan 2021, 01:02 last edited by
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              @xenon said in Resignations:

              @george-k I get you. I really do. And I'm only arguing with you out of habit - I agree that you shouldn't make fun of people that you don't know. period.

              But I do think there are gradations of physical appearance-based nicknames.

              Fatso is generally bad - unless someone were to be really comfortable with it (there's an overweight rapper who calls himself "Fat Joe")

              Orange man is offensive because presumably Trump wants to look different than his natural skin hue. That's not something he'd appreciate or has publicly acknowledged.

              I think McConnell is brilliant (even if in a machiavellian way) - so I'm not trying to insult him out of hate.

              But now that you've roused the contrarian in me. I did find a video of an interviewer asking him if he is offended by John Stewart calling him Turtle (I think he popularized it). And his response was "I love it".

              Now afterward he made it clear that it doesn't matter to him, because the opinion of people that do matter to him (his constituents and colleagues) is what he cares about. So, if you read the subtext, I'm sure he doesn't actually "love it". But as I said - in the pantheon of insults, it's pretty minor.

              But - point taken. You shouldn't make fun of people you don't know.

              Also. Re:Trump's disabled thing. It's pretty inconclusive if he was actually making fun of him for being disabled. He's done that motion many times. I wouldn't put it past him, but it's not evidence of him making fun of a disabled person.

              You'd argue with a fencepost, wouldn't you?

              BTW, that's not a complement...😄

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • G George K
                7 Jan 2021, 22:10

                @xenon said in Resignations:

                @george-k said in Resignations:

                @xenon said in Resignations:

                Turtle's wife

                Nice.

                https://babylonbee.com/news/mcconnell-returns-to-the-sea

                I've always objected to name-calling based on peoples' appearance, etc.

                I find the approbation "turtle" insulting to McConnell and demeaning to the person who says it, yeah, including The Bee. It's reprehensible.

                That said, I've made many "Orange Man" posts - all of them were to illustrate the pettiness of the appellation. If you can't say something substantive, insult the appearance. It's a a petty, childish thing to do.

                Prediction: You're about to throw in President Trump's comment about the disabled reporter, amirite?

                1. Look at the video I posted about his history regarding that, and get back to me.
                2. As I've said many times before, President Trump is a horrible person. I would not want to associate with him in any way. But I don't vote on "friendly" or "nice." I vote on policy.
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                taiwan_girl
                wrote on 8 Jan 2021, 01:39 last edited by
                #36

                @george-k said in Resignations:

                I've always objected to name-calling based on peoples' appearance, etc.

                ☝🏻

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                  George K
                  wrote on 8 Jan 2021, 02:30 last edited by
                  #37

                  Betsy DeVos resigned.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 8 Jan 2021, 02:44 last edited by
                    #38

                    Rats, ship.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                    • G George K
                      8 Jan 2021, 02:30

                      Betsy DeVos resigned.

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                      Loki
                      wrote on 8 Jan 2021, 02:47 last edited by
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                      @george-k said in Resignations:

                      Betsy DeVos resigned.

                      That’s very interesting. Wouldn’t have been my first guess. Wonder if portends things...

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                      • J jon-nyc
                        8 Jan 2021, 02:44

                        Rats, ship.

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 8 Jan 2021, 03:01 last edited by
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                        @jon-nyc said in Resignations:

                        Rats, ship.

                        Virtue signaling.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 8 Jan 2021, 07:31 last edited by
                          #41

                          Interesting

                          On Thursday, Mr. Pence did not go to the White House complex, instead working out of the vice-presidential residence, according to administration officials.

                          He was not the only one feeling betrayed by the president. In the White House, aides were exasperated and despondent, convinced that Mr. Trump had effectively nullified four years of work and ensured that his presidency would be defined in history by the image of him sending a mob to the Capitol in an assault on democracy.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                          • T taiwan_girl
                            8 Jan 2021, 01:39

                            @george-k said in Resignations:

                            I've always objected to name-calling based on peoples' appearance, etc.

                            ☝🏻

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                            Klaus
                            wrote on 8 Jan 2021, 09:54 last edited by
                            #42

                            @taiwan_girl said in Resignations:

                            @george-k said in Resignations:

                            I've always objected to name-calling based on peoples' appearance, etc.

                            ☝🏻

                            +1

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                            • G George K
                              7 Jan 2021, 22:10

                              @xenon said in Resignations:

                              @george-k said in Resignations:

                              @xenon said in Resignations:

                              Turtle's wife

                              Nice.

                              https://babylonbee.com/news/mcconnell-returns-to-the-sea

                              I've always objected to name-calling based on peoples' appearance, etc.

                              I find the approbation "turtle" insulting to McConnell and demeaning to the person who says it, yeah, including The Bee. It's reprehensible.

                              That said, I've made many "Orange Man" posts - all of them were to illustrate the pettiness of the appellation. If you can't say something substantive, insult the appearance. It's a a petty, childish thing to do.

                              Prediction: You're about to throw in President Trump's comment about the disabled reporter, amirite?

                              1. Look at the video I posted about his history regarding that, and get back to me.
                              2. As I've said many times before, President Trump is a horrible person. I would not want to associate with him in any way. But I don't vote on "friendly" or "nice." I vote on policy.
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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on 8 Jan 2021, 12:03 last edited by
                              #43

                              @george-k said in Resignations:

                              I've always objected to name-calling based on peoples' appearance, etc.

                              Obviously, this is hard to disagree with, however one could argue that where an individual has become famous for making disparaging remarks about how others look, then he or she becomes fair game when their own appearance is rated at less than a full 10.

                              I was only joking

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                              • D Doctor Phibes
                                8 Jan 2021, 12:03

                                @george-k said in Resignations:

                                I've always objected to name-calling based on peoples' appearance, etc.

                                Obviously, this is hard to disagree with, however one could argue that where an individual has become famous for making disparaging remarks about how others look, then he or she becomes fair game when their own appearance is rated at less than a full 10.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 8 Jan 2021, 12:29 last edited by George K 1 Aug 2021, 12:30
                                #44

                                @doctor-phibes said in Resignations:

                                where an individual has become famous for making disparaging remarks about how others look, then he or she becomes fair game

                                Agreed.

                                To my knowledge, McConnell has made no such remark.

                                Orange Man President Trump, however...

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • G George K
                                  8 Jan 2021, 12:29

                                  @doctor-phibes said in Resignations:

                                  where an individual has become famous for making disparaging remarks about how others look, then he or she becomes fair game

                                  Agreed.

                                  To my knowledge, McConnell has made no such remark.

                                  Orange Man President Trump, however...

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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on 8 Jan 2021, 12:41 last edited by Doctor Phibes 1 Aug 2021, 12:42
                                  #45

                                  @george-k said in Resignations:

                                  @doctor-phibes said in Resignations:

                                  where an individual has become famous for making disparaging remarks about how others look, then he or she becomes fair game

                                  Agreed.

                                  To my knowledge, McConnell has made no such remark.

                                  Orange Man President Trump, however...

                                  That's my point. Trump has it coming. Also, he chooses to look like that. He dyes his hair and spray paints his face.

                                  I don't think making fun of McConnell's looks is fair, any more than laughing at Hillary Clinton's, something which was done to excess. I'd argue that women get lambasted (and in some cases praised) for their looks a lot more than men, but that's a whole other topic.

                                  I was only joking

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 10 Jan 2021, 10:44 last edited by
                                    #46

                                    I see no choice but to resign from this Death Star as it begins to explode

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      89th
                                      wrote on 10 Jan 2021, 11:33 last edited by
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                                      Hahaha pretty accurate.

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                                      • J jon-nyc
                                        8 Jan 2021, 07:31

                                        Interesting

                                        On Thursday, Mr. Pence did not go to the White House complex, instead working out of the vice-presidential residence, according to administration officials.

                                        He was not the only one feeling betrayed by the president. In the White House, aides were exasperated and despondent, convinced that Mr. Trump had effectively nullified four years of work and ensured that his presidency would be defined in history by the image of him sending a mob to the Capitol in an assault on democracy.

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 10 Jan 2021, 14:05 last edited by
                                        #48

                                        @jon-nyc said in Resignations:

                                        Interesting

                                        On Thursday, Mr. Pence did not go to the White House complex, instead working out of the vice-presidential residence, according to administration officials.

                                        He was not the only one feeling betrayed by the president. In the White House, aides were exasperated and despondent, convinced that Mr. Trump had effectively nullified four years of work and ensured that his presidency would be defined in history by the image of him sending a mob to the Capitol in an assault on democracy.

                                        That will be the legacy. It's a shame.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 16 Jan 2021, 17:57 last edited by
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                                          Alex Azar.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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