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What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?

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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    That's true LD, but two points:

    1. It's worse for men than women. You don't even hear discussion about that in terms of prioritization, it's not eve brought up and knocked down.

    2. DO we really know if race is an actual risk factor? Or is it a correlate of true risk factors? IOW they're more likely to live in dense areas, take more risks, not be able to work from home, etc.

    I'm guessing its the latter. In which case prioritizing based on actual risk factors should 'make them whole'.

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    @jon-nyc said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

    That's true LD, but two points:

    1. It's worse for men than women. You don't even hear discussion about that in terms of prioritization, it's not eve brought up and knocked down.

    2. DO we really know if race is an actual risk factor? Or is it a correlate of true risk factors? IOW they're more likely to live in dense areas, take more risks, not be able to work from home, etc.

    I'm guessing its the latter. In which case prioritizing based on actual risk factors should 'make them whole'.

    Depends on which minority group you are speaking of...

    My general understanding from friends at HHS is that there is a significantly higher risk for African Americans and a higher CFR. It's biological, not environmental... There is also a significantly higher risk in the Latino, Asian, and Pacific Islander communities as well, but this seems like it could be due to population density, work, etc... There may be a biological component as well, but less than with African Americans.

    Either way, African Americans aren't going to stop being black, and Hispanics aren't going to suddenly spread their family groups out so the risk factors remain...

    The Brad

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      If the minority has more cases

      that is probably because they didn't use the mask

      and wash their hands for 20 seconds

      You want to reward them for this?

      They should be punished, they were told how to avoid the wu-flu

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        jon-nyc
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        Yay, some states are prioritizing lives saved.

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/12/29/covid-vaccine-priority-group-elderly/

        Shame its only a few.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          I heard today that Massachusetts was prioritising the homeless, based on advice from epidemiologists, Apparently, most States aren't doing this.

          I was only joking

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            I heard today that Massachusetts was prioritising the homeless, based on advice from epidemiologists, Apparently, most States aren't doing this.

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            @doctor-phibes

            https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/6325/next-in-line?_=1609333497614

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              I don't mind the homeless going first

              As long as they have a nice skin color

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              • jon-nycJ Online
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                jon-nyc
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                A friend of mine with my underlying condition (Alpha-1) got his vaccine yesterday in TX. He's under 65 but has emphysema (he's not had a transplant).

                If the CDC had had its way, he'd wait while we got every last 25 year old stock boy vaccinated.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

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                  @aqua-letifer said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

                  E3936BEA-1368-4ABA-A5B2-B20829DF833F.jpeg

                  oh the hypocrisy runs deep with this one. Lol!

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                    @aqua-letifer said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

                    E3936BEA-1368-4ABA-A5B2-B20829DF833F.jpeg

                    oh the hypocrisy runs deep with this one. Lol!

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                    @nobodyssock said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

                    @aqua-letifer said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

                    E3936BEA-1368-4ABA-A5B2-B20829DF833F.jpeg

                    oh the hypocrisy runs deep with this one. Lol!

                    You need to keep up. We dealt with this one a while ago.

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                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                      jon-nyc
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                      #49

                      Two weeks ago Mount Sinai vaccinated a 20-something marketing employee, who posted it on Instagram.

                      Surely somebody’s grandmother would have been better served with that shot.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        You know what? Millions of people will get vaccinated. There is going to be a tiny percentage that probably should have waited longer, letting others go ahead of them.

                        I suspect the number is too small to even worry about.

                        Much ado about nothing...

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          jon-nyc
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                          #51

                          It really isn’t. The CDC plan, even as revised is highly political. 10s of millions mis-prioritized relative to a purely science-driven plan. That includes many - perhaps most - healthcare workers.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            If we only approved the astra Zeneca vaccine this would quickly become a moot point.

                            I know all the talk before the election was to delay until it was safe. I suppose the FDA took that heart.

                            Interesting how the focus still isn’t on quicker approval even in the week of the super virulent strain.

                            Approve the vaccines and we will have more vaccines then we know what to do with. And stop the politics and look at the answer staring you in the face.

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                              jon-nyc
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                              translation: "Don't be political and criticize the CDC. Criticize the FDA instead"

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                translation: "Don't be political and criticize the CDC. Criticize the FDA instead"

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                                @jon-nyc said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

                                translation: "Don't be political and criticize the CDC. Criticize the FDA instead"

                                Can the CDC mandate how the states distribute the vaccine?

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                                • L Loki

                                  If we only approved the astra Zeneca vaccine this would quickly become a moot point.

                                  I know all the talk before the election was to delay until it was safe. I suppose the FDA took that heart.

                                  Interesting how the focus still isn’t on quicker approval even in the week of the super virulent strain.

                                  Approve the vaccines and we will have more vaccines then we know what to do with. And stop the politics and look at the answer staring you in the face.

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                                  @loki said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

                                  the super virulent contagious strain

                                  I've not seen anything to indicate that the new strain is more deadly, just more easily transmitted.

                                  Did I get that wrong?

                                  Can the CDC mandate how the states distribute the vaccine?

                                  My read is, no they can't mandate. They can suggest. Some states are rolling the vaccine out on a different set of priorities, like New York is doing.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    @nobodyssock said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

                                    @aqua-letifer said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

                                    E3936BEA-1368-4ABA-A5B2-B20829DF833F.jpeg

                                    oh the hypocrisy runs deep with this one. Lol!

                                    You need to keep up. We dealt with this one a while ago.

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                                    @loki said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

                                    @nobodyssock said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

                                    @aqua-letifer said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

                                    E3936BEA-1368-4ABA-A5B2-B20829DF833F.jpeg

                                    oh the hypocrisy runs deep with this one. Lol!

                                    You need to keep up. We dealt with this one a while ago.

                                    Forgive me. I dont frequent this place as much as others . I might miss a thread or two.

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                                      @loki said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

                                      @nobodyssock said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

                                      @aqua-letifer said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

                                      E3936BEA-1368-4ABA-A5B2-B20829DF833F.jpeg

                                      oh the hypocrisy runs deep with this one. Lol!

                                      You need to keep up. We dealt with this one a while ago.

                                      Forgive me. I dont frequent this place as much as others . I might miss a thread or two.

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                                      @nobodyssock said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

                                      @loki said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

                                      @nobodyssock said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

                                      @aqua-letifer said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

                                      E3936BEA-1368-4ABA-A5B2-B20829DF833F.jpeg

                                      oh the hypocrisy runs deep with this one. Lol!

                                      You need to keep up. We dealt with this one a while ago.

                                      Forgive me. I dont frequent this place as much as others . I might miss a thread or two.

                                      Well it is a total miss characterization. Do you check for accuracy or just re-spray?

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                                        Copper
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                                        I don't care very much that somebody got the vaccine and might not deserve it.

                                        Nobody has ever done this before.

                                        If they aren't making mistakes then they aren't doing anything.

                                        Cut some slack

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                                          LuFins Dad
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                                          A friend in her late 30s and works as a physical rehab assistant just announced she is scheduled for hers next week. That’s a little annoying.

                                          The Brad

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