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What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?

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  • George KG George K

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9070555/Half-states-want-prioritize-black-Hispanic-people-vaccine-rollout.html

    Every single US state is being advised to consider ethnic minorities as critical groups for vaccination with HALF prioritizing black and Hispanic residents over white...

    As a result, half of the nation's states have outlined plans that now prioritize black, Hispanic and indigenous residents over white people in some way, as the vaccine rollout begins.

    According to our analysis, 25 states have committed to a focus on racial and ethnic communities as they decided which groups should be prioritized in receiving a coronavirus vaccine dose.

    These include New Mexico, where collaboration with Native Americans is being prioritized; California, which has committed to ensuring black and Hispanic people have greater access to the vaccine; and Oregon, where health officials have said that ethnic minorities with have 'equitable access' to the shot.

    Some states have made even more specific plans to prioritize communities of color, with 12 states specifically mentioning efforts to partner with healthcare providers in areas with a large minority population to reach 'diverse populations', according to Kaiser Family Foundation.

    The CDC has also issued guidance on its Social Vulnerability Index (SVI) that uses 15 U.S. census variables to help local officials identify communities that may need support.

    It is being used in states such as Michigan where minority status and language spoken could be taken into consideration when deciding how high a priority you are for receiving a vaccine.

    Maine, in particular, has developed a 'Racial/Ethnic Minority COVID-19 Vaccination Plan' in an attempt to give a preference to groups that 'have experienced rates of disease that far exceed their representation in the population as a whole'.

    Just a reminder....
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    @george-k said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

    The CDC has also issued guidance on its Social Vulnerability Index (SVI) that uses 15 U.S. census variables to help local officials identify communities that may need support.

    I hope you guys remembered to identify as vulnerable person when you completed your census form.

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      I was a little surprised that Trump’s plan did this too.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        In all fairness, it seems that minorities are at a greater health risk for the disease and it is also spreading faster through their communities.

        As for the politicians, I understand the optics, but continuity and a functioning government are vital to beating this disease (too bad we haven’t had a functioning government in decades...) and 1000 vaccines going to officials is s drop in the bucket. If it’s causing a delay, it can be measured by the hour, not by days or weeks...

        The Brad

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          #35

          That's true LD, but two points:

          1. It's worse for men than women. You don't even hear discussion about that in terms of prioritization, it's not eve brought up and knocked down.

          2. DO we really know if race is an actual risk factor? Or is it a correlate of true risk factors? IOW they're more likely to live in dense areas, take more risks, not be able to work from home, etc.

          I'm guessing its the latter. In which case prioritizing based on actual risk factors should 'make them whole'.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            I was a little surprised that Trump’s plan did this too.

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            @jon-nyc said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

            I was a little surprised that Trump’s plan did this too.

            This is an important point because even the states that haven't announced a desire to discriminate based on race and ethnicity will do so anyway unless they modify Trump's plan.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

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              @jon-nyc said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

              Lead by example. Good.

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                It’s a fine thing to say, but is clearly an easy virtue signal slam dunk which ranges from virtually cost free to personally beneficial, depending on one’s attitude about being an early vaccine adopter.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  No one is going to win the war of who should get the vaccine first. Therefore the best response is the one that feeds your base and gets you social media attention.

                  Maybe we would learn just a little something if Omar and AOC would duke it out on who is right on this issue. The woke have their homework assignment as to which of the two get cancelled.

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    That's true LD, but two points:

                    1. It's worse for men than women. You don't even hear discussion about that in terms of prioritization, it's not eve brought up and knocked down.

                    2. DO we really know if race is an actual risk factor? Or is it a correlate of true risk factors? IOW they're more likely to live in dense areas, take more risks, not be able to work from home, etc.

                    I'm guessing its the latter. In which case prioritizing based on actual risk factors should 'make them whole'.

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                    @jon-nyc said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

                    That's true LD, but two points:

                    1. It's worse for men than women. You don't even hear discussion about that in terms of prioritization, it's not eve brought up and knocked down.

                    2. DO we really know if race is an actual risk factor? Or is it a correlate of true risk factors? IOW they're more likely to live in dense areas, take more risks, not be able to work from home, etc.

                    I'm guessing its the latter. In which case prioritizing based on actual risk factors should 'make them whole'.

                    Depends on which minority group you are speaking of...

                    My general understanding from friends at HHS is that there is a significantly higher risk for African Americans and a higher CFR. It's biological, not environmental... There is also a significantly higher risk in the Latino, Asian, and Pacific Islander communities as well, but this seems like it could be due to population density, work, etc... There may be a biological component as well, but less than with African Americans.

                    Either way, African Americans aren't going to stop being black, and Hispanics aren't going to suddenly spread their family groups out so the risk factors remain...

                    The Brad

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                      If the minority has more cases

                      that is probably because they didn't use the mask

                      and wash their hands for 20 seconds

                      You want to reward them for this?

                      They should be punished, they were told how to avoid the wu-flu

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                        Yay, some states are prioritizing lives saved.

                        https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/12/29/covid-vaccine-priority-group-elderly/

                        Shame its only a few.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          I heard today that Massachusetts was prioritising the homeless, based on advice from epidemiologists, Apparently, most States aren't doing this.

                          I was only joking

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                            I heard today that Massachusetts was prioritising the homeless, based on advice from epidemiologists, Apparently, most States aren't doing this.

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                            @doctor-phibes

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                              I don't mind the homeless going first

                              As long as they have a nice skin color

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                                A friend of mine with my underlying condition (Alpha-1) got his vaccine yesterday in TX. He's under 65 but has emphysema (he's not had a transplant).

                                If the CDC had had its way, he'd wait while we got every last 25 year old stock boy vaccinated.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  @aqua-letifer said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

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                                  oh the hypocrisy runs deep with this one. Lol!

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                                    @aqua-letifer said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

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                                    oh the hypocrisy runs deep with this one. Lol!

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                                    @nobodyssock said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

                                    @aqua-letifer said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

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                                    oh the hypocrisy runs deep with this one. Lol!

                                    You need to keep up. We dealt with this one a while ago.

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                                      Two weeks ago Mount Sinai vaccinated a 20-something marketing employee, who posted it on Instagram.

                                      Surely somebody’s grandmother would have been better served with that shot.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        You know what? Millions of people will get vaccinated. There is going to be a tiny percentage that probably should have waited longer, letting others go ahead of them.

                                        I suspect the number is too small to even worry about.

                                        Much ado about nothing...

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          It really isn’t. The CDC plan, even as revised is highly political. 10s of millions mis-prioritized relative to a purely science-driven plan. That includes many - perhaps most - healthcare workers.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

                                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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