What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?

[jon-nyc]

@jon-nyc said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

I was a little surprised that Trump’s plan did this too.

This is an important point because even the states that haven't announced a desire to discriminate based on race and ethnicity will do so anyway unless they modify Trump's plan.

[Axtremus]

[Horace]

It’s a fine thing to say, but is clearly an easy virtue signal slam dunk which ranges from virtually cost free to personally beneficial, depending on one’s attitude about being an early vaccine adopter.

[Loki]

No one is going to win the war of who should get the vaccine first. Therefore the best response is the one that feeds your base and gets you social media attention.

Maybe we would learn just a little something if Omar and AOC would duke it out on who is right on this issue. The woke have their homework assignment as to which of the two get cancelled.

[LuFins Dad]

@jon-nyc said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

That's true LD, but two points:

1. It's worse for men than women. You don't even hear discussion about that in terms of prioritization, it's not eve brought up and knocked down.

2. DO we really know if race is an actual risk factor? Or is it a correlate of true risk factors? IOW they're more likely to live in dense areas, take more risks, not be able to work from home, etc.

I'm guessing its the latter. In which case prioritizing based on actual risk factors should 'make them whole'.

Depends on which minority group you are speaking of...

My general understanding from friends at HHS is that there is a significantly higher risk for African Americans and a higher CFR. It's biological, not environmental... There is also a significantly higher risk in the Latino, Asian, and Pacific Islander communities as well, but this seems like it could be due to population density, work, etc... There may be a biological component as well, but less than with African Americans.

Either way, African Americans aren't going to stop being black, and Hispanics aren't going to suddenly spread their family groups out so the risk factors remain...

[Copper]

If the minority has more cases

that is probably because they didn't use the mask

and wash their hands for 20 seconds

You want to reward them for this?

They should be punished, they were told how to avoid the wu-flu

[jon-nyc]

Yay, some states are prioritizing lives saved.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/12/29/covid-vaccine-priority-group-elderly/

Shame its only a few.

[Doctor Phibes]

I heard today that Massachusetts was prioritising the homeless, based on advice from epidemiologists, Apparently, most States aren't doing this.

[George K]

@doctor-phibes

https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/6325/next-in-line?_=1609333497614

[Copper]

I don't mind the homeless going first

As long as they have a nice skin color

[jon-nyc]

A friend of mine with my underlying condition (Alpha-1) got his vaccine yesterday in TX. He's under 65 but has emphysema (he's not had a transplant).

If the CDC had had its way, he'd wait while we got every last 25 year old stock boy vaccinated.

[A Former User]

@aqua-letifer said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

oh the hypocrisy runs deep with this one. Lol!

[Loki]

@nobodyssock said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

@aqua-letifer said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

oh the hypocrisy runs deep with this one. Lol!

You need to keep up. We dealt with this one a while ago.

[jon-nyc]

Two weeks ago Mount Sinai vaccinated a 20-something marketing employee, who posted it on Instagram.

Surely somebody’s grandmother would have been better served with that shot.

[Jolly]

You know what? Millions of people will get vaccinated. There is going to be a tiny percentage that probably should have waited longer, letting others go ahead of them.

I suspect the number is too small to even worry about.

Much ado about nothing...

[jon-nyc]

It really isn’t. The CDC plan, even as revised is highly political. 10s of millions mis-prioritized relative to a purely science-driven plan. That includes many - perhaps most - healthcare workers.

[Loki]

If we only approved the astra Zeneca vaccine this would quickly become a moot point.

I know all the talk before the election was to delay until it was safe. I suppose the FDA took that heart.

Interesting how the focus still isn’t on quicker approval even in the week of the super virulent strain.

Approve the vaccines and we will have more vaccines then we know what to do with. And stop the politics and look at the answer staring you in the face.

[jon-nyc]

translation: "Don't be political and criticize the CDC. Criticize the FDA instead"

[Loki]

@jon-nyc said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

translation: "Don't be political and criticize the CDC. Criticize the FDA instead"

Can the CDC mandate how the states distribute the vaccine?

[George K]

@loki said in What’s with the prioritization of “essential” workers?:

the super virulent contagious strain

I've not seen anything to indicate that the new strain is more deadly, just more easily transmitted.

Did I get that wrong?

Can the CDC mandate how the states distribute the vaccine?

My read is, no they can't mandate. They can suggest. Some states are rolling the vaccine out on a different set of priorities, like New York is doing.