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Puzzle time - the Triangle

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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
    wrote on last edited by
    #4

    @Axtremus BC has length 10

    @Klaus AP is the height.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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    • KlausK Offline
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      Klaus
      wrote on last edited by Klaus
      #5

      Oh, now I see.

      :::

      AB isn't the hypotenuse.

      :::

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on last edited by
        #6

        Nope that was just a typo on my part when I went back to clarify!

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        • kluursK Online
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          kluurs
          wrote on last edited by kluurs
          #7

          ||AC represents the height - as the triangle is inverted for triangle CAB. 6 is the height of triangle PAB. ||

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          • AxtremusA Offline
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            Axtremus
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            #8

            :::

            I was trying to say that the “really smart” kid cannot solve the problem because of the ambiguity stemming from there having three possible right triangles in the diagram: ABC, ACP, ABP. So when you say something like the hypothenuse has length 10, it’s ambiguous whether you’re referring to which hypothenuse, AB, AC, or BC.

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              #9

              :::

              Too lazy to look up the required formulas right now, but with A fixed as a right angle and CB equal to 10, height AP will be confined to a certain range. I guess it's at its maximum when angles C and B are both 45 degrees and even then AP will likely be less than 6? If that's the case, the scenario is simply impossible.

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              • jon-nycJ Online
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                jon-nyc
                wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                #10

                I should have named the smart kid Nunatax.

                The triangle is impossible as this simple diagram shows us:

                ED5C7B88-5A4F-4177-B4A3-861F6FEDAA50.jpeg

                (Recall that, if the angle CAB is a right angle, it must lie on the perimeter of the circle, per Euclid

                The maximum height of AP is 5.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                  wrote on last edited by Klaus
                  #11

                  Nice!

                  I wonder what that restriction (of the maximal height) looks like in non-Euclidean geometries.

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                  • MikM Offline
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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #12

                    The original formula would only work if CAB was a right triangle anyway, or 1/2 a rectangle.

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      I should have named the smart kid Nunatax.

                      The triangle is impossible as this simple diagram shows us:

                      ED5C7B88-5A4F-4177-B4A3-861F6FEDAA50.jpeg

                      (Recall that, if the angle CAB is a right angle, it must lie on the perimeter of the circle, per Euclid

                      The maximum height of AP is 5.

                      taiwan_girlT Offline
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                      @jon-nyc said in Puzzle time - the Triangle:

                      I should have named the smart kid Nunatax.

                      Correct, you should not have picked me! 555

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