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Puzzle time - the Triangle

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
    wrote on last edited by
    #4

    @Axtremus BC has length 10

    @Klaus AP is the height.

    You were warned.

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    • KlausK Offline
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      Klaus
      wrote on last edited by Klaus
      #5

      Oh, now I see.

      :::

      AB isn't the hypotenuse.

      :::

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      • jon-nycJ Offline
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        wrote on last edited by
        #6

        Nope that was just a typo on my part when I went back to clarify!

        You were warned.

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          kluurs
          wrote on last edited by kluurs
          #7

          ||AC represents the height - as the triangle is inverted for triangle CAB. 6 is the height of triangle PAB. ||

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          • AxtremusA Offline
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            Axtremus
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            #8

            :::

            I was trying to say that the “really smart” kid cannot solve the problem because of the ambiguity stemming from there having three possible right triangles in the diagram: ABC, ACP, ABP. So when you say something like the hypothenuse has length 10, it’s ambiguous whether you’re referring to which hypothenuse, AB, AC, or BC.

            :::

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            • NunataxN Offline
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              #9

              :::

              Too lazy to look up the required formulas right now, but with A fixed as a right angle and CB equal to 10, height AP will be confined to a certain range. I guess it's at its maximum when angles C and B are both 45 degrees and even then AP will likely be less than 6? If that's the case, the scenario is simply impossible.

              :::

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              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                jon-nyc
                wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                #10

                I should have named the smart kid Nunatax.

                The triangle is impossible as this simple diagram shows us:

                ED5C7B88-5A4F-4177-B4A3-861F6FEDAA50.jpeg

                (Recall that, if the angle CAB is a right angle, it must lie on the perimeter of the circle, per Euclid

                The maximum height of AP is 5.

                You were warned.

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                • KlausK Offline
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                  Klaus
                  wrote on last edited by Klaus
                  #11

                  Nice!

                  I wonder what that restriction (of the maximal height) looks like in non-Euclidean geometries.

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                  • MikM Offline
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                    Mik
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #12

                    The original formula would only work if CAB was a right triangle anyway, or 1/2 a rectangle.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      I should have named the smart kid Nunatax.

                      The triangle is impossible as this simple diagram shows us:

                      ED5C7B88-5A4F-4177-B4A3-861F6FEDAA50.jpeg

                      (Recall that, if the angle CAB is a right angle, it must lie on the perimeter of the circle, per Euclid

                      The maximum height of AP is 5.

                      taiwan_girlT Offline
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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #13

                      @jon-nyc said in Puzzle time - the Triangle:

                      I should have named the smart kid Nunatax.

                      Correct, you should not have picked me! 555

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