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Puzzle time - the Triangle

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  • KlausK Offline
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    Klaus
    wrote on last edited by
    #3

    :::

    Is it something as boring as "it isn't specified that AP is the height, so it could be something slightly different"?

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    • jon-nycJ Online
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      jon-nyc
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      #4

      @Axtremus BC has length 10

      @Klaus AP is the height.

      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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      • KlausK Offline
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        wrote on last edited by Klaus
        #5

        Oh, now I see.

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        AB isn't the hypotenuse.

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          jon-nyc
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          Nope that was just a typo on my part when I went back to clarify!

          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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          • kluursK Offline
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            kluurs
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            #7

            ||AC represents the height - as the triangle is inverted for triangle CAB. 6 is the height of triangle PAB. ||

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            • AxtremusA Offline
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              #8

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              I was trying to say that the “really smart” kid cannot solve the problem because of the ambiguity stemming from there having three possible right triangles in the diagram: ABC, ACP, ABP. So when you say something like the hypothenuse has length 10, it’s ambiguous whether you’re referring to which hypothenuse, AB, AC, or BC.

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              • NunataxN Offline
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                wrote on last edited by
                #9

                :::

                Too lazy to look up the required formulas right now, but with A fixed as a right angle and CB equal to 10, height AP will be confined to a certain range. I guess it's at its maximum when angles C and B are both 45 degrees and even then AP will likely be less than 6? If that's the case, the scenario is simply impossible.

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                • jon-nycJ Online
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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                  #10

                  I should have named the smart kid Nunatax.

                  The triangle is impossible as this simple diagram shows us:

                  ED5C7B88-5A4F-4177-B4A3-861F6FEDAA50.jpeg

                  (Recall that, if the angle CAB is a right angle, it must lie on the perimeter of the circle, per Euclid

                  The maximum height of AP is 5.

                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                  • KlausK Offline
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                    Klaus
                    wrote on last edited by Klaus
                    #11

                    Nice!

                    I wonder what that restriction (of the maximal height) looks like in non-Euclidean geometries.

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      #12

                      The original formula would only work if CAB was a right triangle anyway, or 1/2 a rectangle.

                      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        I should have named the smart kid Nunatax.

                        The triangle is impossible as this simple diagram shows us:

                        ED5C7B88-5A4F-4177-B4A3-861F6FEDAA50.jpeg

                        (Recall that, if the angle CAB is a right angle, it must lie on the perimeter of the circle, per Euclid

                        The maximum height of AP is 5.

                        taiwan_girlT Offline
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                        wrote on last edited by
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                        @jon-nyc said in Puzzle time - the Triangle:

                        I should have named the smart kid Nunatax.

                        Correct, you should not have picked me! 555

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