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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • MikM Offline
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      I'm just a tad worse than George, like 2.5 times as the average risk, which still puts me at a 99.95% chance of living.

      Still, I do not want to go through it.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • MikM Mik

        I'm just a tad worse than George, like 2.5 times as the average risk, which still puts me at a 99.95% chance of living.

        Still, I do not want to go through it.

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        It's not just about mortality, it's also about other long term health factors.

        There's also no mention of the risk of giving it to others who are at higher risk, which is probably most people's main concern, or at least ought to be.

        I was only joking

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        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

          It's not just about mortality, it's also about other long term health factors.

          There's also no mention of the risk of giving it to others who are at higher risk, which is probably most people's main concern, or at least ought to be.

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          @doctor-phibes said in Covid mortality risk calculator:

          no mention of the risk of giving it to others who are at higher risk, which is probably most people's main concern

          That's right. Look at the convent I mentioned yesterday.

          My risk factors:

          Hypertension: well controlled
          Diabetes Type II: well controlled (A1C at 5.3)
          Smoker: quit in 1986
          Age: 70 (gawd that hurts to type!)

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • MikM Offline
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            I quit smoking in 1976 after 8 years, probably only 3 at a pack a day, so I put down no. It's been 44 years. Can't imagine it would be a factor.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              I love this.

              First, I put in all the true info for myself, and got a multiplier of 0.40

              Second round, I added a year to my age, some extra comorbidities and ten more pounds, and got a multiplier of 0.36.

              Bring on the cookies, cuz they're obviously good for my health!

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              • LuFins DadL Offline
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                #9

                Based on the information you have provided, the tool estimates that you have 0.15 (95% CI: 0.13 - 0.17 ) times the risk of dying from COVID-19 compared to the average risk for the US population.

                Scuse me while I go lick some door knobs.

                The Brad

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                • MikM Offline
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                  You are either delirious or exceedingly brave to talk about licking knobs here.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Mik

                    You are either delirious or exceedingly brave to talk about licking knobs here.

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                    I tried again and just switched my race to African American. My risk factor tripled. Still in the green but that was interesting.

                    I also wanted to try it again with my old rural PA zip code. I was curious to see if there was a difference with zip codes since they were asking. There was no difference which has me even more curious about why they were asking...

                    The Brad

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      It's not just about mortality, it's also about other long term health factors.

                      There's also no mention of the risk of giving it to others who are at higher risk, which is probably most people's main concern, or at least ought to be.

                      HoraceH Online
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                      @doctor-phibes said in Covid mortality risk calculator:

                      It's not just about mortality, it's also about other long term health factors.

                      There's also no mention of the risk of giving it to others who are at higher risk, which is probably most people's main concern, or at least ought to be.

                      Beyond wearing a mask and practicing social distancing, I’m not sure how the concern over infecting others is supposed to be addressed. Which is to say, for those who are high risk, they bear responsibility for drastically changing their lifestyles to avoid the disease. I think we have reached as much social consensus as we ever will that masks and social distancing are good.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        @doctor-phibes said in Covid mortality risk calculator:

                        It's not just about mortality, it's also about other long term health factors.

                        There's also no mention of the risk of giving it to others who are at higher risk, which is probably most people's main concern, or at least ought to be.

                        Beyond wearing a mask and practicing social distancing, I’m not sure how the concern over infecting others is supposed to be addressed. Which is to say, for those who are high risk, they bear responsibility for drastically changing their lifestyles to avoid the disease. I think we have reached as much social consensus as we ever will that masks and social distancing are good.

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                        @horace said in Covid mortality risk calculator:

                        @doctor-phibes said in Covid mortality risk calculator:

                        It's not just about mortality, it's also about other long term health factors.

                        There's also no mention of the risk of giving it to others who are at higher risk, which is probably most people's main concern, or at least ought to be.

                        Beyond wearing a mask and practicing social distancing, I’m not sure how the concern over infecting others is supposed to be addressed. Which is to say, for those who are high risk, they bear responsibility for drastically changing their lifestyles to avoid the disease. I think we have reached as much social consensus as we ever will that masks and social distancing are good.

                        We are experiencing an extreme shift regarding personal responsibility vs social responsibility when it comes to health. When I was a 1st grader, friends I knew with a severe peanut allergy were homeschooled. By the time I was graduating high school, those kids were in public school, but all the food in the cafeteria was labeled whether it contained nuts. By the time Luke started attending school, the cafeterias just stopped serving any foods that contained nuts. By time he was in 6th grade, they stopped allowing packed lunches to contain any kind of nuts,. Last year (his Junior year) a kid was sent home from school because he had a peanut butter sandwich before coming to school and it was on his breath. The onus shifted from personal responsibility to social responsibility over a period of 30 years...

                        The Brad

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          @horace said in Covid mortality risk calculator:

                          @doctor-phibes said in Covid mortality risk calculator:

                          It's not just about mortality, it's also about other long term health factors.

                          There's also no mention of the risk of giving it to others who are at higher risk, which is probably most people's main concern, or at least ought to be.

                          Beyond wearing a mask and practicing social distancing, I’m not sure how the concern over infecting others is supposed to be addressed. Which is to say, for those who are high risk, they bear responsibility for drastically changing their lifestyles to avoid the disease. I think we have reached as much social consensus as we ever will that masks and social distancing are good.

                          We are experiencing an extreme shift regarding personal responsibility vs social responsibility when it comes to health. When I was a 1st grader, friends I knew with a severe peanut allergy were homeschooled. By the time I was graduating high school, those kids were in public school, but all the food in the cafeteria was labeled whether it contained nuts. By the time Luke started attending school, the cafeterias just stopped serving any foods that contained nuts. By time he was in 6th grade, they stopped allowing packed lunches to contain any kind of nuts,. Last year (his Junior year) a kid was sent home from school because he had a peanut butter sandwich before coming to school and it was on his breath. The onus shifted from personal responsibility to social responsibility over a period of 30 years...

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                          @lufins-dad

                          When I was in school I had never even heard of a nut allergy. They seem to have been discovered in the 80s.

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                            We found out about nut allergies when they almost killed my daughter sometime around 1990.

                            My wife had to teach the grade school teachers how to use an Epi Pen at the start of every school year. They had never heard about allergies and the EpiPens freaked half of them out.

                            I bet they all know about EpiPens now.

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              @horace said in Covid mortality risk calculator:

                              @doctor-phibes said in Covid mortality risk calculator:

                              It's not just about mortality, it's also about other long term health factors.

                              There's also no mention of the risk of giving it to others who are at higher risk, which is probably most people's main concern, or at least ought to be.

                              Beyond wearing a mask and practicing social distancing, I’m not sure how the concern over infecting others is supposed to be addressed. Which is to say, for those who are high risk, they bear responsibility for drastically changing their lifestyles to avoid the disease. I think we have reached as much social consensus as we ever will that masks and social distancing are good.

                              We are experiencing an extreme shift regarding personal responsibility vs social responsibility when it comes to health. When I was a 1st grader, friends I knew with a severe peanut allergy were homeschooled. By the time I was graduating high school, those kids were in public school, but all the food in the cafeteria was labeled whether it contained nuts. By the time Luke started attending school, the cafeterias just stopped serving any foods that contained nuts. By time he was in 6th grade, they stopped allowing packed lunches to contain any kind of nuts,. Last year (his Junior year) a kid was sent home from school because he had a peanut butter sandwich before coming to school and it was on his breath. The onus shifted from personal responsibility to social responsibility over a period of 30 years...

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                              Horace
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                              @lufins-dad said in Covid mortality risk calculator:

                              @horace said in Covid mortality risk calculator:

                              @doctor-phibes said in Covid mortality risk calculator:

                              It's not just about mortality, it's also about other long term health factors.

                              There's also no mention of the risk of giving it to others who are at higher risk, which is probably most people's main concern, or at least ought to be.

                              Beyond wearing a mask and practicing social distancing, I’m not sure how the concern over infecting others is supposed to be addressed. Which is to say, for those who are high risk, they bear responsibility for drastically changing their lifestyles to avoid the disease. I think we have reached as much social consensus as we ever will that masks and social distancing are good.

                              We are experiencing an extreme shift regarding personal responsibility vs social responsibility when it comes to health. When I was a 1st grader, friends I knew with a severe peanut allergy were homeschooled. By the time I was graduating high school, those kids were in public school, but all the food in the cafeteria was labeled whether it contained nuts. By the time Luke started attending school, the cafeterias just stopped serving any foods that contained nuts. By time he was in 6th grade, they stopped allowing packed lunches to contain any kind of nuts,. Last year (his Junior year) a kid was sent home from school because he had a peanut butter sandwich before coming to school and it was on his breath. The onus shifted from personal responsibility to social responsibility over a period of 30 years...

                              Interesting point LD.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                @lufins-dad

                                When I was in school I had never even heard of a nut allergy. They seem to have been discovered in the 80s.

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                                @jon-nyc said in Covid mortality risk calculator:

                                @lufins-dad

                                When I was in school I had never even heard of a nut allergy. They seem to have been discovered in the 80s.

                                It seems to me like the number of occurrences seemed to explode in the late 80’s, but it was recognized well before then.

                                Still, I think A LOT more toddlers and older babies had it but it wasn’t recognized and wound up unfortunately being called SIDS...

                                The Brad

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                                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                  @jon-nyc said in Covid mortality risk calculator:

                                  @lufins-dad

                                  When I was in school I had never even heard of a nut allergy. They seem to have been discovered in the 80s.

                                  It seems to me like the number of occurrences seemed to explode in the late 80’s, but it was recognized well before then.

                                  Still, I think A LOT more toddlers and older babies had it but it wasn’t recognized and wound up unfortunately being called SIDS...

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  @lufins-dad

                                  You think?

                                  I thought SIDS was quiet unexplained deaths in cribs, usually overnight. Doesn't seem at all like an allergic reaction.

                                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                    It's not just about mortality, it's also about other long term health factors.

                                    There's also no mention of the risk of giving it to others who are at higher risk, which is probably most people's main concern, or at least ought to be.

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                                    @doctor-phibes said in Covid mortality risk calculator:

                                    It's not just about mortality, it's also about other long term health factors.

                                    There's also no mention of the risk of giving it to others who are at higher risk, which is probably most people's main concern, or at least ought to be.

                                    Perfect reply.

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