The Hate
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Hillary and Barry were fvcking pricks, btw.
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@nobodyssock said in The Hate:
thats not the subject of this thread Dr. Whatabout
No, it's not.
But it's relevant to your comment about mingling with the hoi-palloi.
Your comment about President Trump raised a question about his interaction with "ordinary people."
I simply asked if you can apply the same standard to Obama. Or, for that matter, Bush II, Clinton, Bush I.
If you can't your insult is, well, facile and ignorant. For the moment, I'll ignore your name-calling.
@nobodyssock said in The Hate:
thats not the subject of this thread Dr. Whatabout
No, it's not.
But it's relevant to your comment about mingling with the hoi-palloi.
Your comment about President Trump raised a question about his interaction with "ordinary people."
I simply asked if you can apply the same standard to Obama. Or, for that matter, Bush II, Clinton, Bush I.
If you can't your insult is, well, facile and ignorant. For the moment, I'll ignore your name-calling.
Wasnt meant as an insult. Just stating a fact here. You average 3 to 4 whataboutism posts per day.
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@nobodyssock said in The Hate:
thats not the subject of this thread Dr. Whatabout
No, it's not.
But it's relevant to your comment about mingling with the hoi-palloi.
Your comment about President Trump raised a question about his interaction with "ordinary people."
I simply asked if you can apply the same standard to Obama. Or, for that matter, Bush II, Clinton, Bush I.
If you can't your insult is, well, facile and ignorant. For the moment, I'll ignore your name-calling.
Wasnt meant as an insult. Just stating a fact here. You average 3 to 4 whataboutism posts per day.
@nobodyssock said in The Hate:
Wasnt meant as an insult. Just stating a fact here. You average 3 to 4 whataboutism posts per day.
That may be true.
Now, go ahead and refute my comment, Mr. "I quote unattributed screeds from leftwing websites that no one has ever heard of."
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@nobodyssock said in The Hate:
thats not the subject of this thread Dr. Whatabout
No, it's not.
But it's relevant to your comment about mingling with the hoi-palloi.
Your comment about President Trump raised a question about his interaction with "ordinary people."
I simply asked if you can apply the same standard to Obama. Or, for that matter, Bush II, Clinton, Bush I.
If you can't your insult is, well, facile and ignorant. For the moment, I'll ignore your name-calling.
Wasnt meant as an insult. Just stating a fact here. You average 3 to 4 whataboutism posts per day.
@nobodyssock said in The Hate:
@nobodyssock said in The Hate:
thats not the subject of this thread Dr. Whatabout
No, it's not.
But it's relevant to your comment about mingling with the hoi-palloi.
Your comment about President Trump raised a question about his interaction with "ordinary people."
I simply asked if you can apply the same standard to Obama. Or, for that matter, Bush II, Clinton, Bush I.
If you can't your insult is, well, facile and ignorant. For the moment, I'll ignore your name-calling.
Wasnt meant as an insult. Just stating a fact here. You average 3 to 4 whataboutism posts per day.
Speaking about whatabout why not diversify your posting? When you did it was much more interesting.
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Why They Hate Trump
Simply put, they hate Trump because he represents ordinary Americans — those who are not part of the political and corporate elite, who lack the advantages and connections of the Deep State, who are not media, academics, or celebs. President Trump puts ordinary Americans first, and it drives the elite nuts.
The elite have spent so many years enjoying their advantages, including the psychological advantage of despising ordinary people, that they panicked when someone tried to take it all away from them. They can't go on living without that warm, reassuring sense of superiority.
Contempt for average Americans was palpable in Hillary Clinton, which is why she lost the election of 2016. It was just too obvious. Joe Biden conceals it somewhat better, or perhaps he just cares more for other advantages of office — for both himself and family members. Either way, he is taking advantage of ordinary people.
What really upset the elite was that average Americans were beginning to believe in themselves. Their wages were rising for the first time in decades, and they felt proud to be restoring America to what it could be. If Biden wins, that will be lost. The everyday American can crawl back to his cell and watch the country stagnate for another four or eight years.
What if the deplorables — the guy who delivers the bread to your supermarket, the woman caring for three children at home, the insurance salesman, the Target checkout clerk — were actually smarter than the Washington types, smarter than you in the universities and the media? For the elite, it would mean that the world had been turned upside-down.
That's exactly what President Trump began to accomplish in four years. For four years, those everyday Americans were treated like something special, listened to, moved to the front of the line. Trump rallies were exciting because they were primarily a celebration of the rise of the real America — of those who get up five mornings a week to an alarm clock, start the car in the cold, drive to work in the dark, put in eight or ten hours, come back to football on TV in a two-bedroom apartment, bathe and sleep, and do it again and again. On weekends, they coach and volunteer and attend church and care for family and neighbors.
This is a way of life that the Washington elite despise. They prefer $300 restaurants, chauffeured limos, escort services funded by lobbyists, drugs and alcohol, junkets to exclusive resorts, secret bank accounts, and the status of high office.
The elite think they are so far above us, but they are not happier for it. It's the parents in Oklahoma with their newborn child, the kid in Indiana receiving his first promotion, the grandparents in Florida living on not much more than Social Security but still giving of themselves — these are the great Americans who understand what President Trump is talking about, and they are the Americans he understands and respects.
Can you say Obama understood and respected these ordinary Americans? Or the Clintons, or even the Bushes, with their New England heritage and Texas money? Or Nixon, LBJ, or Kennedy with his serial adulteries? Or Carter, with his twisted ideology of "save everyone in the world at the expense of the American middle class"? Only Reagan and Trump put ordinary Americans first.
Now, unless the Supreme Court steps in, it's back to "normal." Already the word has come down from Biden appointees — herd the riffraff back to their pens, tape their mouths, steal their votes, and strip them of their rights. It's high times again in Washington.
What is really important to the elite is the illusion that only they know what's "smart" and what's right. "Smart" was the byword of the Obama/Biden administration, and it implied that anyone who questioned their policies — policies designed to enrich the elite — was truly dumb. It was their way of ending the discussion, like saying "the science is settled." Now, from being "smarter" than we are, the next step is to prosecute those who oppose them, and they're halfway there with the accusation that those who question anthropogenic climate change are "deniers."
The elite are evolving from political snobs to something more sinister. It's not enough to condescend to conservatives. Now the elite want to imprison them. The persecution of Gen. Flynn by a politicized Justice Department should be a warning to the rest of us. Michael Flynn is a hero for standing up to it, but most Americans would probably buckle under the pressure, and we'd be living in a totalitarian state. We're close to that already.
There are many policies to fear from Biden/Harris, but censorship and persecution of opponents may be the worst thing. Progressives have a history of elevating their goals above the law and established practice — Woodrow Wilson's Espionage Act, FDR's attempt at court-packing, LBJ's bullying of Congress and the courts, Obama's pen and a phone. Obama/Biden was the most activist administration since LBJ, intent on promoting universal abortion "rights," open borders, and globalist policies that weakened the United States, and they used the Justice Department and FBI, along with many other agencies, to persecute those who opposed them. What they especially attacked was the traditional faith of the heartland.
Hobby Lobby found that out, so expect there to be more Hobby Lobbies under Biden. When the CEO and Founder of Hobby Lobby, David Green, stood up for what he believed and refused to fund contraceptive coverage mandated under Obamacare, Obama's Justice Department sued with the intention of fining and imprisoning him into submission. Green refused to bow to the Deep State and ultimately won in the Supreme Court.
Thanks to President Trump's appointees, the Court may be the salvation of others like David Green, but it can go only so far. And there is nothing except a Republican Senate to prevent Biden from packing the Court with liberals.
Even the Court can't defend us against the corruption of the political elite. They believe they have a right to practice graft and influence peddling, and to reap the benefits of drugs, fine liquor, call girls, and the rest. Eliot Spitzer and "Client 9" aren't the only politicians caught up in prostitution — Hunter Biden may be worse. As progressives see it, this behavior is just something to smirk about and look the other way. They think it's provincial to think there's anything wrong with Hunter's behavior. Will Hunter Biden's behavior change if his father becomes president?
The one thing progressives will not surrender is their sense of superiority to the American people, and their tactics are becoming more aggressive, shifting from disparagement to criminalization. Should Biden take office, expect the censorship and persecution of conservatives to continue and increase. The only way to stop them is to speak the truth and hope the public will vote them out of office.
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/12/why_they_hate_trump.html
Simply put, they hate Trump because he represents ordinary Americans — those who are not part of the political and corporate elite, who lack the advantages and connections of the Deep State, who are not media, academics, or celebs. President Trump puts ordinary Americans first, and it drives the elite nuts.
Foul tip. Barely made contact.
For a hell of a lot of lefties, the argument actually goes something like this:
- Trump said some really uncool shit about [whatever]. Let's take the Access Hollywood video as a prime example. He said those things.
- They then conclude that supporting Trump, after he said such things, means emphatic endorsement of sexual assault. Any other reason to support Donald Trump is immaterial. He said those things, you voted for him, therefore you're for sexually assaulting women. Period, end of story.
That's their perspective. It also works on what people project about Trump, too. Enough people think Trump is X, so that means it's so obviously true, and anyone who voted for him is in full endorsement of X as well.
On the other side of things, you have someone like Joe Flyover, with all of his pedestrian aspirations, struggles and personal tragedies. His brother or nephew or something was in a nasty accident, and that set his family back some. He had a handful of really demeaning jobs and didn't get married the first time like he thought he would. But now he is married, he's in a slightly more stable position, and he's now able to save for retirement and pay for his kid to be in the band in school.
He woke up some morning in the past ten years to learn that you know what? He didn't earn anything he's gained in his life. He stole it from more deserving victims because as a white guy, he's been given things his whole life. And the fact that he's been oblivious to all this means he's a racist, too. So he damn well better be sorry for all the shit he's done to terrorize under-represented identities, and do everything he can to project his white guilt, or the mob will have every right to cancel his ass.
And along comes a professional bullshitter telling him he understands, he's in his corner, and like Joe, he doesn't buy into this "privilege" crap, either.
The problem is that the two sides aren't the least bit interested in understanding each other. They're way too busy knowing they're on the winning side of morality for understanding to have a chance.
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Neither Trump, Obama nor Hillary have any fucking clue about people living ordinary lives.
Incidentally, visiting Martha's Vineyard is no big deal at all. It's a little boat trip over. My in-laws went for a week. They said it was pretty so-so. Food was overpriced and not that great.
I spent a week in Boca Raton with work, which is close to Mar a Lago. It was considerably more upscale than anywhere I've been to on the Cape.
Not that any of that matters in the slightest. The minute you have somebody carry your luggage and drive you around you stop being a regular person. If you think chatting to your chaffeur gives somebody an insight into regular folk, I've got a bridge going cheap.
I was only joking
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While Trump can certainly BS with the best (developer, remember) and he can be an absolute jackass to the people working closely with him, word is he treats everyday people pretty decent. I don't put him in 43's league, but he's not the monster many think he is.
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While Trump can certainly BS with the best (developer, remember) and he can be an absolute jackass to the people working closely with him, word is he treats everyday people pretty decent. I don't put him in 43's league, but he's not the monster many think he is.
While Trump can certainly BS with the best (developer, remember) and he can be an absolute jackass to the people working closely with him, word is he treats everyday people pretty decent. I don't put him in 43's league, but he's not the monster many think he is.
So, how do you think Obama treated everyday people? From what I've seen he was pretty decent.
I was only joking
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While Trump can certainly BS with the best (developer, remember) and he can be an absolute jackass to the people working closely with him, word is he treats everyday people pretty decent. I don't put him in 43's league, but he's not the monster many think he is.
word is he treats everyday people pretty decent.
I've heard that very same observation about people I know to be absolute shitbags so many times I don't pay it any mind anymore. I think it's next to impossible for anyone on this board to know what kind of guy Trump really is. But with all these problems we talk about, we pretend they're about him and really aren't.
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word is he treats everyday people pretty decent.
I've heard that very same observation about people I know to be absolute shitbags so many times I don't pay it any mind anymore. I think it's next to impossible for anyone on this board to know what kind of guy Trump really is. But with all these problems we talk about, we pretend they're about him and really aren't.
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Hate:
I think it's next to impossible for anyone on this board to know what kind of guy Trump really is. But with all these problems we talk about, we pretend they're about him and really aren't.
Well said.
It's unreasonable to expect any former (or current president) to interact with "the normal" people in any "normal" way. Not going to happen.
And that's not just because of the personality you hate, it's because of who the man is. Secret Service, and all kinds of other security, will simply not allow it.
Do you really think that I could walk up to the Clintons' house in Chappaqua, ring the doorbell, and ask for a cup of coffee?
Of course not.
To expect that of any former (or current) President is delusional, and that's why I mentioned the last four Presidents.
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Neither Trump, Obama nor Hillary have any fucking clue about people living ordinary lives.
Incidentally, visiting Martha's Vineyard is no big deal at all. It's a little boat trip over. My in-laws went for a week. They said it was pretty so-so. Food was overpriced and not that great.
I spent a week in Boca Raton with work, which is close to Mar a Lago. It was considerably more upscale than anywhere I've been to on the Cape.
Not that any of that matters in the slightest. The minute you have somebody carry your luggage and drive you around you stop being a regular person. If you think chatting to your chaffeur gives somebody an insight into regular folk, I've got a bridge going cheap.
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Hate:
Neither Trump, Obama nor Hillary have any fucking clue about people living ordinary lives.
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The minute you have somebody carry your luggage and drive you around you stop being a regular person. If you think chatting to your chaffeur gives somebody an insight into regular folk, I've got a bridge going cheap.Analysis of the day.
Hillary Clinton upbraiding a repairman for being visible while doing his job. Yelling at a SS agent for not carrying her suitcase.
Bush (the younger), Obama, and Reagan thanking the pilots who flew them.
Biden skinny dipping.
All of them are disconnected from what "real" life is like. And they always will be.
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@nobodyssock said in The Hate:
thats not the subject of this thread Dr. Whatabout
No, it's not.
But it's relevant to your comment about mingling with the hoi-palloi.
Your comment about President Trump raised a question about his interaction with "ordinary people."
I simply asked if you can apply the same standard to Obama. Or, for that matter, Bush II, Clinton, Bush I.
If you can't your insult is, well, facile and ignorant. For the moment, I'll ignore your name-calling.
Wasnt meant as an insult. Just stating a fact here. You average 3 to 4 whataboutism posts per day.
@nobodyssock said in The Hate:
@nobodyssock said in The Hate:
thats not the subject of this thread Dr. Whatabout
No, it's not.
But it's relevant to your comment about mingling with the hoi-palloi.
Your comment about President Trump raised a question about his interaction with "ordinary people."
I simply asked if you can apply the same standard to Obama. Or, for that matter, Bush II, Clinton, Bush I.
If you can't your insult is, well, facile and ignorant. For the moment, I'll ignore your name-calling.
Wasnt meant as an insult. Just stating a fact here. You average 3 to 4 whataboutism posts per day.
Sock, before you get too comfortable with your asshole attitude, let's look back over your history to check your batting average. According to you, Trump was going to be convicted and thrown in prison 3 years ago. According to you, Trump was guilty of colluding with Russia, it was a proven fact, and on and on. You've been so utterly wrong on every single thing you believe for so long and so consistently that if you say something is true it's 109% certain to be a lie.
In short Sock, you couldn't find your own ass with a road map to it. So fuck you.
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While Trump can certainly BS with the best (developer, remember) and he can be an absolute jackass to the people working closely with him, word is he treats everyday people pretty decent. I don't put him in 43's league, but he's not the monster many think he is.
So, how do you think Obama treated everyday people? From what I've seen he was pretty decent.
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Hate:
While Trump can certainly BS with the best (developer, remember) and he can be an absolute jackass to the people working closely with him, word is he treats everyday people pretty decent. I don't put him in 43's league, but he's not the monster many think he is.
So, how do you think Obama treated everyday people? From what I've seen he was pretty decent.
Ask Karla what she thought sometime.
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He said “supposing” at least four times.
“Is there a way?”
Did I miss where he actually suggested it?
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The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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He said “supposing” at least four times.
“Is there a way?”
Did I miss where he actually suggested it?
He said “supposing” at least four times.
“Is there a way?”
Did I miss where he actually suggested it?
No, you didn't.
He's spitballing, brainstorming, thinking outside of the box. Use whatever expression you like. The fact is that the MSM turned it into something it wasn't.
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He said “supposing” at least four times.
“Is there a way?”
Did I miss where he actually suggested it?
He said “supposing” at least four times.
“Is there a way?”
Did I miss where he actually suggested it?
Just forget politics and all this talk of hate for a moment. I for one wouldn't want to work for a company where my CEO talked like that in a public meeting. I wouldn't feel like I had somebody who knew what the fuck they were doing at the helm.
People might disagree with me, but feeling like this doesn't make me stupid.
And before we go down the path of odious comparisons, no, working for a company where I feel the CEO doesn't know what the fuck he's doing doesn't make me feel better that my main competitor also has a CEO who doesn't know what the fuck he's doing. If anything, it makes me feel worse.
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@nobodyssock said in The Hate:
@nobodyssock said in The Hate:
thats not the subject of this thread Dr. Whatabout
No, it's not.
But it's relevant to your comment about mingling with the hoi-palloi.
Your comment about President Trump raised a question about his interaction with "ordinary people."
I simply asked if you can apply the same standard to Obama. Or, for that matter, Bush II, Clinton, Bush I.
If you can't your insult is, well, facile and ignorant. For the moment, I'll ignore your name-calling.
Wasnt meant as an insult. Just stating a fact here. You average 3 to 4 whataboutism posts per day.
Speaking about whatabout why not diversify your posting? When you did it was much more interesting.
@nobodyssock said in The Hate:
@nobodyssock said in The Hate:
thats not the subject of this thread Dr. Whatabout
No, it's not.
But it's relevant to your comment about mingling with the hoi-palloi.
Your comment about President Trump raised a question about his interaction with "ordinary people."
I simply asked if you can apply the same standard to Obama. Or, for that matter, Bush II, Clinton, Bush I.
If you can't your insult is, well, facile and ignorant. For the moment, I'll ignore your name-calling.
Wasnt meant as an insult. Just stating a fact here. You average 3 to 4 whataboutism posts per day.
Speaking about whatabout why not diversify your posting? When you did it was much more interesting.
Ok, well my 17 year old dog died Wednesday. Had to finally put him down as he wasn't eating or walking anymore. It was a hard day. I was lucky to find a vet who makes house calls though, and she was awesome. Me and the pups gathered around DJ in my backyard in the sun and it went very peacefully. I miss him so though. And I am finding that staying busy has been the best tonic for dealing with my grief right now. My other two dogs and I have been on numerous walks and jogs, and I am cramming on my Christmas music as I get to play for a private Christmas/Birthday party tomorrow night. Yes, it's outdoors. So have been logging many hours on my keyboard and piano lately. Sorry about being so one dimensional here. I don't agree with most of your guys' politics but I don't make a habit of demeaning and insulting you all. I actually agree with many conservative principles and am not the Leftist I am portrayed here as. I just can't stand that man. Call it TDS if you want, but I believe he is the worst thing to happen to this country since McCarthy. This latest free for all in trying to steal an election that he cries was stolen from him just reinforces my opinion of one of his abnormal personality traits as a classic projector.
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NS, I was really sorry to hear about your dog. I wanted to say something on FB, but I can never find the words. He clearly meant the world to you.
