The Hate
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@nobodyssock said in The Hate:
@nobodyssock said in The Hate:
thats not the subject of this thread Dr. Whatabout
No, it's not.
But it's relevant to your comment about mingling with the hoi-palloi.
Your comment about President Trump raised a question about his interaction with "ordinary people."
I simply asked if you can apply the same standard to Obama. Or, for that matter, Bush II, Clinton, Bush I.
If you can't your insult is, well, facile and ignorant. For the moment, I'll ignore your name-calling.
Wasnt meant as an insult. Just stating a fact here. You average 3 to 4 whataboutism posts per day.
Speaking about whatabout why not diversify your posting? When you did it was much more interesting.
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Simply put, they hate Trump because he represents ordinary Americans — those who are not part of the political and corporate elite, who lack the advantages and connections of the Deep State, who are not media, academics, or celebs. President Trump puts ordinary Americans first, and it drives the elite nuts.
Foul tip. Barely made contact.
For a hell of a lot of lefties, the argument actually goes something like this:
- Trump said some really uncool shit about [whatever]. Let's take the Access Hollywood video as a prime example. He said those things.
- They then conclude that supporting Trump, after he said such things, means emphatic endorsement of sexual assault. Any other reason to support Donald Trump is immaterial. He said those things, you voted for him, therefore you're for sexually assaulting women. Period, end of story.
That's their perspective. It also works on what people project about Trump, too. Enough people think Trump is X, so that means it's so obviously true, and anyone who voted for him is in full endorsement of X as well.
On the other side of things, you have someone like Joe Flyover, with all of his pedestrian aspirations, struggles and personal tragedies. His brother or nephew or something was in a nasty accident, and that set his family back some. He had a handful of really demeaning jobs and didn't get married the first time like he thought he would. But now he is married, he's in a slightly more stable position, and he's now able to save for retirement and pay for his kid to be in the band in school.
He woke up some morning in the past ten years to learn that you know what? He didn't earn anything he's gained in his life. He stole it from more deserving victims because as a white guy, he's been given things his whole life. And the fact that he's been oblivious to all this means he's a racist, too. So he damn well better be sorry for all the shit he's done to terrorize under-represented identities, and do everything he can to project his white guilt, or the mob will have every right to cancel his ass.
And along comes a professional bullshitter telling him he understands, he's in his corner, and like Joe, he doesn't buy into this "privilege" crap, either.
The problem is that the two sides aren't the least bit interested in understanding each other. They're way too busy knowing they're on the winning side of morality for understanding to have a chance.
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Neither Trump, Obama nor Hillary have any fucking clue about people living ordinary lives.
Incidentally, visiting Martha's Vineyard is no big deal at all. It's a little boat trip over. My in-laws went for a week. They said it was pretty so-so. Food was overpriced and not that great.
I spent a week in Boca Raton with work, which is close to Mar a Lago. It was considerably more upscale than anywhere I've been to on the Cape.
Not that any of that matters in the slightest. The minute you have somebody carry your luggage and drive you around you stop being a regular person. If you think chatting to your chaffeur gives somebody an insight into regular folk, I've got a bridge going cheap.
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While Trump can certainly BS with the best (developer, remember) and he can be an absolute jackass to the people working closely with him, word is he treats everyday people pretty decent. I don't put him in 43's league, but he's not the monster many think he is.
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While Trump can certainly BS with the best (developer, remember) and he can be an absolute jackass to the people working closely with him, word is he treats everyday people pretty decent. I don't put him in 43's league, but he's not the monster many think he is.
So, how do you think Obama treated everyday people? From what I've seen he was pretty decent.
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word is he treats everyday people pretty decent.
I've heard that very same observation about people I know to be absolute shitbags so many times I don't pay it any mind anymore. I think it's next to impossible for anyone on this board to know what kind of guy Trump really is. But with all these problems we talk about, we pretend they're about him and really aren't.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in The Hate:
I think it's next to impossible for anyone on this board to know what kind of guy Trump really is. But with all these problems we talk about, we pretend they're about him and really aren't.
Well said.
It's unreasonable to expect any former (or current president) to interact with "the normal" people in any "normal" way. Not going to happen.
And that's not just because of the personality you hate, it's because of who the man is. Secret Service, and all kinds of other security, will simply not allow it.
Do you really think that I could walk up to the Clintons' house in Chappaqua, ring the doorbell, and ask for a cup of coffee?
Of course not.
To expect that of any former (or current) President is delusional, and that's why I mentioned the last four Presidents.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in The Hate:
Neither Trump, Obama nor Hillary have any fucking clue about people living ordinary lives.
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The minute you have somebody carry your luggage and drive you around you stop being a regular person. If you think chatting to your chaffeur gives somebody an insight into regular folk, I've got a bridge going cheap.Analysis of the day.
Hillary Clinton upbraiding a repairman for being visible while doing his job. Yelling at a SS agent for not carrying her suitcase.
Bush (the younger), Obama, and Reagan thanking the pilots who flew them.
Biden skinny dipping.
All of them are disconnected from what "real" life is like. And they always will be.
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@nobodyssock said in The Hate:
@nobodyssock said in The Hate:
thats not the subject of this thread Dr. Whatabout
No, it's not.
But it's relevant to your comment about mingling with the hoi-palloi.
Your comment about President Trump raised a question about his interaction with "ordinary people."
I simply asked if you can apply the same standard to Obama. Or, for that matter, Bush II, Clinton, Bush I.
If you can't your insult is, well, facile and ignorant. For the moment, I'll ignore your name-calling.
Wasnt meant as an insult. Just stating a fact here. You average 3 to 4 whataboutism posts per day.
Sock, before you get too comfortable with your asshole attitude, let's look back over your history to check your batting average. According to you, Trump was going to be convicted and thrown in prison 3 years ago. According to you, Trump was guilty of colluding with Russia, it was a proven fact, and on and on. You've been so utterly wrong on every single thing you believe for so long and so consistently that if you say something is true it's 109% certain to be a lie.
In short Sock, you couldn't find your own ass with a road map to it. So fuck you.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in The Hate:
While Trump can certainly BS with the best (developer, remember) and he can be an absolute jackass to the people working closely with him, word is he treats everyday people pretty decent. I don't put him in 43's league, but he's not the monster many think he is.
So, how do you think Obama treated everyday people? From what I've seen he was pretty decent.
Ask Karla what she thought sometime.
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Invincibly ignorant.
Actually, that's pretty smart.
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He said “supposing” at least four times.
“Is there a way?”
Did I miss where he actually suggested it?
No, you didn't.
He's spitballing, brainstorming, thinking outside of the box. Use whatever expression you like. The fact is that the MSM turned it into something it wasn't.
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He said “supposing” at least four times.
“Is there a way?”
Did I miss where he actually suggested it?
Just forget politics and all this talk of hate for a moment. I for one wouldn't want to work for a company where my CEO talked like that in a public meeting. I wouldn't feel like I had somebody who knew what the fuck they were doing at the helm.
People might disagree with me, but feeling like this doesn't make me stupid.
And before we go down the path of odious comparisons, no, working for a company where I feel the CEO doesn't know what the fuck he's doing doesn't make me feel better that my main competitor also has a CEO who doesn't know what the fuck he's doing. If anything, it makes me feel worse.
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@nobodyssock said in The Hate:
@nobodyssock said in The Hate:
thats not the subject of this thread Dr. Whatabout
No, it's not.
But it's relevant to your comment about mingling with the hoi-palloi.
Your comment about President Trump raised a question about his interaction with "ordinary people."
I simply asked if you can apply the same standard to Obama. Or, for that matter, Bush II, Clinton, Bush I.
If you can't your insult is, well, facile and ignorant. For the moment, I'll ignore your name-calling.
Wasnt meant as an insult. Just stating a fact here. You average 3 to 4 whataboutism posts per day.
Speaking about whatabout why not diversify your posting? When you did it was much more interesting.
Ok, well my 17 year old dog died Wednesday. Had to finally put him down as he wasn't eating or walking anymore. It was a hard day. I was lucky to find a vet who makes house calls though, and she was awesome. Me and the pups gathered around DJ in my backyard in the sun and it went very peacefully. I miss him so though. And I am finding that staying busy has been the best tonic for dealing with my grief right now. My other two dogs and I have been on numerous walks and jogs, and I am cramming on my Christmas music as I get to play for a private Christmas/Birthday party tomorrow night. Yes, it's outdoors. So have been logging many hours on my keyboard and piano lately. Sorry about being so one dimensional here. I don't agree with most of your guys' politics but I don't make a habit of demeaning and insulting you all. I actually agree with many conservative principles and am not the Leftist I am portrayed here as. I just can't stand that man. Call it TDS if you want, but I believe he is the worst thing to happen to this country since McCarthy. This latest free for all in trying to steal an election that he cries was stolen from him just reinforces my opinion of one of his abnormal personality traits as a classic projector.
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NS, I was really sorry to hear about your dog. I wanted to say something on FB, but I can never find the words. He clearly meant the world to you.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in The Hate:
NS, I was really sorry to hear about your dog. I wanted to say something on FB, but I can never find the words. He clearly meant the world to you.
Thanks man. I know the feeling. And he did. Appreciate it.
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He said “supposing” at least four times.
“Is there a way?”
Did I miss where he actually suggested it?
No, you didn't.
He's spitballing, brainstorming, thinking outside of the box. Use whatever expression you like. The fact is that the MSM turned it into something it wasn't.
He specifically said in a debate that he was being “sarcastic” when Biden brought it up.
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