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  • LarryL Offline
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    Larry
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    Truck prices are ridiculous. My truck is worth more money today after 5 years and 70k miles than what I paid for it, all because of the ridiculous price of new ones. My wife's car is a Cadillac, but she doesn't like to drive so for the most part it just sits. I've heard rumors that Lincoln is coming out with a new Town Car next year. If they do I'll trade in mine. If they don't, I'll just keep driving the one I have because to me it is the best sedan ever made.

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    • LarryL Larry

      Truck prices are ridiculous. My truck is worth more money today after 5 years and 70k miles than what I paid for it, all because of the ridiculous price of new ones. My wife's car is a Cadillac, but she doesn't like to drive so for the most part it just sits. I've heard rumors that Lincoln is coming out with a new Town Car next year. If they do I'll trade in mine. If they don't, I'll just keep driving the one I have because to me it is the best sedan ever made.

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      @Larry said in 1/6 Cadillac Dealers to Close:

      Truck prices are ridiculous. My truck is worth more money today after 5 years and 70k miles than what I paid for it, all because of the ridiculous price of new ones.

      Funny, a friend of mine who ALWAYS buys used just bought a brand new truck. He said the prices of lightly used trucks are so high it made no sense not to buy new.

      This guy was replacing a 93, so he intends to keep the new one forever.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • George KG Offline
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        I really don't understand the usefulness of a pickup in most situations. They tend to be large, ungainly, and unless you're hauling shit, the bed is wasted space. Living in a condo, in particular, makes it even less appealing for me.

        Are they more "fun" to drive?" I dunno.

        I'll take a sedan, thanks.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • MikM Away
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          Mik
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          The full size are very comfortable. I loved mine, and it was very handy to be able to haul mulch, lumber, furniture, etc. i still miss having one. I even loved my $800 88 Jeep Commanche. Great clearance.

          I almost bought a Cadillac SRX or whatever they were called - the smaller SUV. Loved the look of them and I had never owned a Caddy. Then I discovered they were built in Mexico and I just could not wrap my head around a Mexican Cadillac.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • MikM Mik

            The full size are very comfortable. I loved mine, and it was very handy to be able to haul mulch, lumber, furniture, etc. i still miss having one. I even loved my $800 88 Jeep Commanche. Great clearance.

            I almost bought a Cadillac SRX or whatever they were called - the smaller SUV. Loved the look of them and I had never owned a Caddy. Then I discovered they were built in Mexico and I just could not wrap my head around a Mexican Cadillac.

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            The XT5 mid-size is built in Larry's home state.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              @Larry said in 1/6 Cadillac Dealers to Close:

              Truck prices are ridiculous. My truck is worth more money today after 5 years and 70k miles than what I paid for it, all because of the ridiculous price of new ones.

              Funny, a friend of mine who ALWAYS buys used just bought a brand new truck. He said the prices of lightly used trucks are so high it made no sense not to buy new.

              This guy was replacing a 93, so he intends to keep the new one forever.

              LarryL Offline
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              Larry
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              #11

              @jon-nyc said in 1/6 Cadillac Dealers to Close:

              @Larry said in 1/6 Cadillac Dealers to Close:

              Truck prices are ridiculous. My truck is worth more money today after 5 years and 70k miles than what I paid for it, all because of the ridiculous price of new ones.

              Funny, a friend of mine who ALWAYS buys used just bought a brand new truck. He said the prices of lightly used trucks are so high it made no sense not to buy new.

              This guy was replacing a 93, so he intends to keep the new one forever.

              It's funny - you can buy brand new full sized truck in the 30K range. But then you see this feature on one, that feature on another, and before you know it you're lusting over a 90K truck.

              I've probably bought my last truck too. I l9ve mine. It's loaded, runs and looks like new, and in 5 years I've only put 70K miles on it and it can easily last 300K miles.

              What I'm looking forward to is a new Town Car. Unless it comes out and they've butchered up some midsized Ford to make the thing.

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              • George KG George K

                I really don't understand the usefulness of a pickup in most situations. They tend to be large, ungainly, and unless you're hauling shit, the bed is wasted space. Living in a condo, in particular, makes it even less appealing for me.

                Are they more "fun" to drive?" I dunno.

                I'll take a sedan, thanks.

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                @George-K said in 1/6 Cadillac Dealers to Close:

                I really don't understand the usefulness of a pickup in most situations. They tend to be large, ungainly, and unless you're hauling shit, the bed is wasted space. Living in a condo, in particular, makes it even less appealing for me.

                Are they more "fun" to drive?" I dunno.

                I'll take a sedan, thanks.

                Yes, for you it wouldn't make sense to get a truck, unless you bought a small one like a Toyota Tacoma. My truck, like a lot of trucks now, has a roll up bed cover and a key lock on the tailgate, so you can carry stuff in the back unseen and locked up. So that might make having a truck bed more useful to you. But even then what would you really need to haul..

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                • MikM Away
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                  There is a reason you still see Lincoln Town Cars, which have not been built since 2011, all over cities as limos. I love them.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • bachophileB bachophile

                    I think my next car will be a pick up. And I’m not a contractor, farmer , or have any MAGA stickers. Just sort of bucket list kind of thing.

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                    @bachophile said in 1/6 Cadillac Dealers to Close:

                    I think my next car will be a pick up. And I’m not a contractor, farmer , or have any MAGA stickers. Just sort of bucket list kind of thing.

                    👍
                    Even after 30 years, I still love my truck. Yes, get a pickup truck. You will soon wonder why you waited so long. Get a 3/4 ton truck, not a 1/2 ton. You'll be able to haul just about anything you need to, and you will definitely be needing to do that hauling. Just think of how many cases of wine you'll be able to put in that truck bed.

                    Get a full 8-foot bed for your truck, not one of those shorty things. Get a real truck: Full 8-foot bed, 3/4 ton, 4-wheel drive. This is the recipe for happiness. You deserve all the happiness. 🙂

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                    • brendaB brenda

                      @bachophile said in 1/6 Cadillac Dealers to Close:

                      I think my next car will be a pick up. And I’m not a contractor, farmer , or have any MAGA stickers. Just sort of bucket list kind of thing.

                      👍
                      Even after 30 years, I still love my truck. Yes, get a pickup truck. You will soon wonder why you waited so long. Get a 3/4 ton truck, not a 1/2 ton. You'll be able to haul just about anything you need to, and you will definitely be needing to do that hauling. Just think of how many cases of wine you'll be able to put in that truck bed.

                      Get a full 8-foot bed for your truck, not one of those shorty things. Get a real truck: Full 8-foot bed, 3/4 ton, 4-wheel drive. This is the recipe for happiness. You deserve all the happiness. 🙂

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                      @brenda said in 1/6 Cadillac Dealers to Close:

                      Full 8-foot bed

                      He'll be able to get TWO 50 cals on that sucker!

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • CopperC Copper

                        The XT5 mid-size is built in Larry's home state.

                        MikM Away
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                        Mik
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                        @Copper said in 1/6 Cadillac Dealers to Close:

                        The XT5 mid-size is built in Larry's home state.

                        Already 86’d it for a Nissan Murano I love.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          Bach, one more thing. We must have pictures of you in said truck.

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                          • MikM Mik

                            There is a reason you still see Lincoln Town Cars, which have not been built since 2011, all over cities as limos. I love them.

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                            @Mik said in 1/6 Cadillac Dealers to Close:

                            There is a reason you still see Lincoln Town Cars, which have not been built since 2011, all over cities as limos. I love them.

                            That's what mine is, a 2011. Big, smooth, quiet, (QUIET!!) Seats like barcoloungers, and it gets 27 mpg on the interstate. All I've ever had to spend on it was for tires and oil changes.

                            Now about that 88 Jeep Commanche.... loved those things. Never owned one, but they were great little trucks.

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                            • brendaB brenda

                              Bach, one more thing. We must have pictures of you in said truck.

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                              @brenda said in 1/6 Cadillac Dealers to Close:

                              Bach, one more thing. We must have pictures of you in said truck.

                              Sure thing. Maybe this summer. Seems like a good time to change my car.

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                                A pickup is more handy than an extra shirt pocket. There's a reason it has a bed and a reason it has a tow hitch.

                                I look at pickups in three categories:

                                1. Small half-tons, 2WD or 4WD. The Toyota Tacoma with the four-banger may be the best if the breed. Ride quality and capability may suffer - you don't want to hitch up a 18 foot trailer with a four thousand pound tractor - but gas mileage and handling are good.

                                2. Regular half -tons, 2WD or 4WD. F150, Tundra, Sierra, etc. The four door ones replace the family car for a lot of people down here, although bed capacity suffers. Never seen any sense in buying a bed so short, all you can haul is your lunchbox. Anyway, the trucks ride well, have good towing capacity if set up well and can haul a good bit.

                                3. 3/4 and 1-tons, 2WD or 4WD. These are the bigger work trucks. Big V8's or diesels. Might even be duallies. These are hauling goosenecks of hay, heavy equipment, large travel trailers or doing hot shot work.

                                I priced some pickups last week, just for shits and grins. A basic 2020 Ram Quadcab with a 4.7L V8 was the cheapest, coming in at around $33k. Larry is right, though...You start spec'ing one up and you better reach for your wallet...

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  George and I live pretty close to the city in older suburbs. While streets are 2-way, with parked cars, there's often a game of chicken to sort out who goes when. It's like the streets were designed for cars that were the size of the old VW Beetle. I've got a Subaru Forester and it feels too wide. A full size pick-up isn't that practical for everyday driving. Go further out from the city - and things are a bit more open with wider streets and less congestion - easier to consider a full-size truck.

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                                    Larry
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                                    Lincoln-Mark-9-Coupe-rear.jpg

                                    This is a picture of a prototype that Lincoln is considering (I'm told) releasing as a new Mark 9 Series next year or the year after. I will be getting one just as soon as I can get my hands on one if they do.

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                                    • MikM Away
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                                      Do a long, long test drive first, Larry. I test drove their smaller SUV and just hated it. Worst designed vehicle ever. Ugly, very, very uncomfortable if you are over 5'7" and do not have birdlegs. They MKZ sedans the car services are using now suck too.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • MikM Mik

                                        Do a long, long test drive first, Larry. I test drove their smaller SUV and just hated it. Worst designed vehicle ever. Ugly, very, very uncomfortable if you are over 5'7" and do not have birdlegs. They MKZ sedans the car services are using now suck too.

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                                        Larry
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                                        @Mik said in 1/6 Cadillac Dealers to Close:

                                        Do a long, long test drive first, Larry. I test drove their smaller SUV and just hated it. Worst designed vehicle ever. Ugly, very, very uncomfortable if you are over 5'7" and do not have birdlegs. They MKZ sedans the car services are using now suck too.

                                        Yes. That's why I've hung on to the Town Car. They haven't built a car since 2011 that's worth a damn except for the new Continental, and i didnt like that one enough to pay the price they want for one.

                                        If the Mark 9 ends up a disappointment, I may just get a foreign car or some sort. George convinced me the Audis are nice, but I think if I go with a foreign car I want to turn it into a "shopping adventure" lol .. by then I won't have anything else to do... I've only owned one foreign car in my life.. it was a Volkswagen Scrirrocco back in 1982. Fast little bugger, but nothing I'd want now.

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                                          I bought one foreign car - the Isuzu Impulse
                                          I bought it for the look of the dashboard, kind of futuristic for the 1980s

                                          ![alt text](933eba99-3b3a-4740-b6a4-a209a5875341-image.png image url)

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